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My children don't know the difference between a desktop case and a "hard drive" and I need to change that.

I want to build something with a smaller footprint size wise and wattage wise. Intel is a must (sorry)

I am keeping the AMD Radeon 5700 and the M.2 drive.

Is there anything wrong with this build? Should I opt for a beefer CPU? I don't really do much gaming on it these days. My budget is $900

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.01 @ Amazon)
Total: $716.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I don't see any red flags here for whatever undisclosed usage cases you have planned for it.

It will be fine for mundane daily use, productivity applications, light gaming.

My daily driver Windows PC (a mini-ITX build, not the one in my System Specs) probably has similar performance.

Best of luck.
 

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My children don't know the difference between a desktop case and a "hard drive" and I need to change that.

I want to build something with a smaller footprint size wise and wattage wise. Intel is a must (sorry)

I am keeping the AMD Radeon 5700 and the M.2 drive.

Is there anything wrong with this build? Should I opt for a beefer CPU? I don't really do much gaming on it these days. My budget is $900

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.01 @ Amazon)
Total: $716.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I don't know if Microcenter is an option but if it is ....
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My children don't know the difference between a desktop case and a "hard drive" and I need to change that.

I want to build something with a smaller footprint size wise and wattage wise. Intel is a must (sorry)

I am keeping the AMD Radeon 5700 and the M.2 drive.

Is there anything wrong with this build? Should I opt for a beefer CPU? I don't really do much gaming on it these days. My budget is $900

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.01 @ Amazon)
Total: $716.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Eh. It's a reasonable build.

I would probably swap the 12400F for a 13600K and limit it to 125W which is stock power limit, you'll still benefit from 6P+8E instead of 6P+4E, alongside the newer architecture and improvements to the Intel 7 process.

I don't really see the need for DDR5 in a budget build, the ram and mobo combo you've picked could instead be a higher end DDR4 one - it's basically equivalent to DDR4 2800/CL18, which isn't good, by any means.

So you could get 13600K (125W), B660 DDR4, 32GB 3600/16 and probably a better PSU too, while staying within your budget of $900.


This will give you much better performance, and with the Scythe cooler and more efficient PSU you'll also have a quieter system.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sf...-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tdzad432g3600hc18jdc01 better memory if you want to pay an extra $10.

If you need wifi, you can get a Z790M wifi board still within your budget.
 
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Eh. It's a reasonable build.

I would probably swap the 12400F for a 13600K and limit it to 125W which is stock power limit, you'll still benefit from 6P+8E instead of 6P+4E, alongside the newer architecture and improvements to the Intel 7 process.

I don't really see the need for DDR5 in a budget build, the ram and mobo combo you've picked could instead be a higher end DDR4 one - it's basically equivalent to DDR4 2800/CL18, which isn't good, by any means.

So you could get 13600K (125W), B660 DDR4, 32GB 3600/16 and probably a better PSU too, while staying within your budget of $900.

Any issue with that Scythe fitting in the case?
 

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Are you trying to meet a given spec as cost-effectively as possible, or maxing out performance within $900? Those builds look very different. digianstefani's build above is a good example of the latter, while the former might look something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Total: $579.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Doesn't have DDR5, but saves you over a hundred bucks.

Aside: Man, power supplies are weird right now. It's bananas that you can get 650W and 750W models for less than equivalent 550s.
 

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My children don't know the difference between a desktop case and a "hard drive" and I need to change that.

I want to build something with a smaller footprint size wise and wattage wise. Intel is a must (sorry)

I am keeping the AMD Radeon 5700 and the M.2 drive.

Is there anything wrong with this build? Should I opt for a beefer CPU? I don't really do much gaming on it these days. My budget is $900

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.01 @ Amazon)
Total: $716.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-04 12:21 EDT-0400

you can get a better PSU than that. 850w Corsair RM gold is currently 114 on newegg and amazon

peak efficiency is around 40% use of a PSU. so at load, you might be swinging peak power savings with an 850 too.

edit: just saw 80 watt hamsters post. yeah his build is better i think, nm my psu recommendation.
 
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Are you trying to meet a given spec as cost-effectively as possible, or maxing out performance within $900? Those builds look very different.

I have a split brain on this. I don't want to build something for $900 and have it waste a ton of electricity when all I am doing is work on it. But at the same time I do want some power to game and to last a few years. I like the idea of going with the better i5 that has 14 cores and DDR4 I think it makes more sense for me. Now I just need a motherboard, preferably one I can get from either Amazon or Newegg.
 
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I have a split brain on this. I don't want to build something for $900 and have it waste a ton of electricity when all I am doing is work on it. But at the same time I do want some power to game and to last a few years. I like the idea of going with the better i5 that has 14 cores and DDR4 I think it makes more sense for me. Now I just need a motherboard, preferably one I can get from either Amazon or Newegg.
Unless you're running Prime95 24/7 or doing extremely specific types of compute heavy work - the 13600K limited to 125 W will be both faster and more efficient than the 12400F.


Even at stock, the average application power consumption is 104 W.
Single threaded (stock) it uses 21 W, 2 W more than the 5800X3D, arguably the most efficient CPU on the market for gaming.
In blender (stock) sure, it uses 187 W, but then it's also faster than a 5900X and more than twice as fast as the 12400F.

The 12400F gets a score of 11600 in cinebench, using 138 W, while the 13600K gets 24,000 (stock).
 
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I have a split brain on this. I don't want to build something for $900 and have it waste a ton of electricity when all I am doing is work on it. But at the same time I do want some power to game and to last a few years. I like the idea of going with the better i5 that has 14 cores and DDR4 I think it makes more sense for me. Now I just need a motherboard, preferably one I can get from either Amazon or Newegg.

The board I listed is available at the same price from Amazon. Chose B&H as seller because I don't like Amazon. Went with that board because it has Wi-Fi like your original choice, you're OK with MSI based on your list and I like their PRO boards generally speaking. Their MAG Mortar has more robust power delivery for another $30 if that's a concern, though the PRO should handle a non-OC'ed i5 just fine.
 
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I have a split brain on this. I don't want to build something for $900 and have it waste a ton of electricity when all I am doing is work on it. But at the same time I do want some power to game and to last a few years. I like the idea of going with the better i5 that has 14 cores and DDR4 I think it makes more sense for me. Now I just need a motherboard, preferably one I can get from either Amazon or Newegg.

This is why I went with the i7-12700F in the build I just did. I was going to do the fastest i5, but on my budget, I am glad I went with the i7 since it saved me from buying a cpu cooler. The boxed one works well, and I can always change it when I decide to up the power settings on it from the stock 65 watts.

Core parts I used (Other than the Memory).......
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CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($170.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory ($101.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $602.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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This is what I have come up with based on your recommendations. Any improvements?

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CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Total: $938.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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This is what I have come up with based on your recommendations. Any improvements?

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CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Total: $938.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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You can remove the Vengenance LPX if you're going with the Ripjaws.
I wouldn't see the PSU as a place to save $30, you're going down 100 W and 2% efficiency, plus it's the III series not the V series, which I've checked is from 2017. Still a good PSU, but just my 2c.
 
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This is what I have come up with based on your recommendations. Any improvements?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Total: $938.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Maybe don't buy both memory kits ( :p ), but can't find much to pick about otherwise. :toast:
 
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Maybe don't buy both memory kits ( :p ), but can't find much to pick about otherwise. :toast:

D'oh! I almost missed that. Okay this looks pretty darn good to me.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Total: $868.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The 13600K is great, but only if you plan to upgrade the GPU soon and only if you're running Windows 11. Those E cores will be a problem on Windows 10 or any flavour of Linux, as far as I'm currently aware. I just sold a PC this evening with an i5-10505 and RX5700 and the GPU was 100% the bottleneck even at 1080p.

If your budget isn't tight, then that's fine but TBH it hurts to see people buying 10th Gen Intel CPUs new when locked CPUs rarely go "bad" and you can pick them up on the used market for barely half the price. I'm on the other side of the pond, but I'm finding used examples of the i5-10500 and 10505 around here for ~£80 including 20% sales tax. We even have a few different outlets that are basically networks of online pawn shops so they gather used inventory at a buy price and sell it off about 30% higher with short warranties in case their brief testing missed anything.

Honestly, 10th Gen i5 is the sweet spot for an RX 5700 and if you're planning on using that for a good while then match it with an appropriately-priced and aged platform. I (personally) find future-proofing to be a fallacy that a lot of people completely fail to take advantage of. I cannot speak for you, but so often I see people overspend on a brand new platform to give themselves upgrade options that they never take. Ebay is loaded with CPU/RAM/board combos and there are Z-series boards with locked i5 chips in them insanely often. Clearly they bought the high end board to upgrade to a next-gen i9 later but never needed to until the platform was too old.

The 13600K is a great CPU for the LGA1700 platform but if you don't have a solid reason to spend $440 on a CPU and board combo, see if you can find a $100 i5-10500/10505(F) used for $100 and then dump it into a new $100 B560 board. That $240 saved can be put aside for whenever the RX 5700 is replaced, not that there's any pressing need to do that for 1080p gaming these days.

Or, ignore me because you're not interested in the best bang for your buck and just want a fully modern platform to play with.
 

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D'oh! I almost missed that. Okay this looks pretty darn good to me.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Total: $868.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-04 17:44 EDT-0400
Looks good, you're missing out on two USB ports, PCIe Gen 5, one m.2 slot and two power stages with the MSI B660 over the Asus Z790M, not sure that's worth it for 400 MHz faster RAM that's twice the price.

You can always manually OC, I wouldn't be surprised if the Vulcan 3200/16 could do 3600/18.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sf...-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tdzad432g3600hc18jdc01 or just grab this, and put the $55 saved into a better motherboard.
 

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Honestly, 10th Gen i5 is the sweet spot for an RX 5700 and if you're planning on using that for a good while then match it with an appropriately-priced and aged platform.

I do plan on upgrading the GPU next year potentially once prices are more reasonable. Interesting note about the E-cores with Linux though. I will need to do some research on that.
 

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Memory 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MHz 26-36-36-48, 57ns AIDA, 2050 FLCK, 160 ns TRFC
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Keyboard Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU Redux Burgundy w/brass weight, Prismcaps White & Jellykey, lubed/modded
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I do plan on upgrading the GPU next year potentially once prices are more reasonable. Interesting note about the E-cores with Linux though. I will need to do some research on that.
Thread director is in 5.18 kernel and onwards.

Linux isn't unfamiliar with big.LITTLE, it's been in android for years. Intel's approach isn't that different.
 

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Looks good, you're missing out on two USB ports, PCIe Gen 5, one m.2 slot and two power stages with the MSI B660 over the Asus Z790M, not sure that's worth it for 400 MHz faster RAM that's twice the price.

You can always manually OC, I wouldn't be surprised if the Vulcan 3200/16 could do 3600/18.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sf...-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tdzad432g3600hc18jdc01 or just grab this, and put the $55 saved into a better motherboard.

This!

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z790M-PLUS D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ ASUS)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Dark Za 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Total: $877.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-04 19:39 EDT-0400
 

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This!

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z790M-PLUS D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ ASUS)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Dark Za 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Total: $877.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-04 19:39 EDT-0400
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Have fun :) Good system.
 
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My children don't know the difference between a desktop case and a "hard drive" and I need to change that.

I want to build something with a smaller footprint size wise and wattage wise. Intel is a must (sorry)

I am keeping the AMD Radeon 5700 and the M.2 drive.

Is there anything wrong with this build? Should I opt for a beefer CPU? I don't really do much gaming on it these days. My budget is $900

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.01 @ Amazon)
Total: $716.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-04 12:21 EDT-0400
Solid build ^^ .. maybe give your kids some nifty lights.

Thermalright Assassin X 120 SE CPU Cooler $19.90

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-pop-mini-air-rgb-micro-atx-tower/p/N82E16811352164
Fractal Design Pop Mini Air RGB Black Computer Case $89.99



 
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