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| System Name | Kursah's Gaming Rig 2018 (2022 Upgrade) - Ryzen+ Edition | Gaming Laptop (Lenovo Legion 5i Pro 2022) |
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| Processor | R7 5800X @ Stock | i7 12700H @ Stock |
| Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231 |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 | Stock Cooling |
| Memory | TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v | 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16) |
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The HD needs to be formatted before an installation of Windows can be done...I wouldn't think XP would start to install w/o format...must be during file load to get to setup where you can Format HDD and Install Windows?
If so, did you find where to set voltage for the memory? DRAM Voltage? Maybe increase NB Voltage, especially if running 4 sticks of RAM, the NB will be more stressed...may also be MCH V. Manually set your FSB to that of your stock processor, i.e. if it's a 1066 processor bus, set your FSB to 266, if it's 1333 set to 333. Verify your memory is running at the correct speed...there are dividers to help control that also. It just seems as if you're getting file errors before anything can be completely loaded up...Vista is touchier with unstable hardware, which is good and bad. I find it more good as an overclocker, where XP may let you think you're stable till you've gone unstable to the point of reformat, Vista will usually not allow an unstable rig to corrupt boot files and such...only when I was in Vista 32 bit did I get corrupted boot files while overclocking beyond stability. You're not even overclocking yet so don't worry too much there...
But I feel your system is still not stable to begin with...start fresh with clearing your CMOS, instructions in your MB's owners manual. This should be done before the first boot whenever a CPU change or it's completely new.
Also, increase your NB/MCH voltage by 1-2 steps, only use 2 sticks of memory right now.
If you can download and make a boot CD of Memtest, Google it, you'll find a ton of info on how to do it...it will boot and test your memory, if there are errors, we are on the right track to pinpointing your source of failure. Bad writes and read from memory sounds like the issue here tho...like POS said before.
If so, did you find where to set voltage for the memory? DRAM Voltage? Maybe increase NB Voltage, especially if running 4 sticks of RAM, the NB will be more stressed...may also be MCH V. Manually set your FSB to that of your stock processor, i.e. if it's a 1066 processor bus, set your FSB to 266, if it's 1333 set to 333. Verify your memory is running at the correct speed...there are dividers to help control that also. It just seems as if you're getting file errors before anything can be completely loaded up...Vista is touchier with unstable hardware, which is good and bad. I find it more good as an overclocker, where XP may let you think you're stable till you've gone unstable to the point of reformat, Vista will usually not allow an unstable rig to corrupt boot files and such...only when I was in Vista 32 bit did I get corrupted boot files while overclocking beyond stability. You're not even overclocking yet so don't worry too much there...
But I feel your system is still not stable to begin with...start fresh with clearing your CMOS, instructions in your MB's owners manual. This should be done before the first boot whenever a CPU change or it's completely new.
Also, increase your NB/MCH voltage by 1-2 steps, only use 2 sticks of memory right now.
If you can download and make a boot CD of Memtest, Google it, you'll find a ton of info on how to do it...it will boot and test your memory, if there are errors, we are on the right track to pinpointing your source of failure. Bad writes and read from memory sounds like the issue here tho...like POS said before.
Well, in the mean time, I took the ULTRA brand memory back and exchanged for Corsair. Unfortunately, didn't realize until I got home that the memory she gave me is 2.1 v and this Intel MB needs 1.8 v memory, so now I need to go back tomorrow and exchange it for 1.8v.
I'll pick the saga up again once I get the right memory.
I'll pick the saga up again once I get the right memory.
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| Processor | R7 5800X @ Stock | i7 12700H @ Stock |
| Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231 |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 | Stock Cooling |
| Memory | TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v | 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16) |
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| Case | Corsair 600C - Stock Fans on Low | Stock Metal/Plastic |
| Audio Device(s) | Aune T1 mk1 > AKG K553 Pro + JVC HA-RX 700 (Equalizer APO + PeaceUI) | Bluetooth Earbuds (BX29) |
| Power Supply | EVGA 750G2 Modular + APC Back-UPS Pro 1500 | 300W OEM (heavy use) or Lenovo Legion C135W GAN (light) |
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Intel MB needs 1.8v memory? You can't change your biose to 2.1v? Odd...I don't usually go with Intel brand MB's, just usually Intel chipset MB's...so I'm not entirely sure, but that ram should still work fine...Corsair should be better than Ultra anyways imo.
Got any more specs on the new memory? Did you even try it? A lot of memory that needs more voltage should boot up with 1.8v, then you can get into BIOS and set the timings and voltage so there are no issues.
Got any more specs on the new memory? Did you even try it? A lot of memory that needs more voltage should boot up with 1.8v, then you can get into BIOS and set the timings and voltage so there are no issues.
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My OCZ ram boots at 1.8v @667 but OCZ says it needs 2.1-2.3v
The docs are here:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dg35ec/ec_manual.htm
The only place I see the voltage setting mentioned is in the Glossary document. But, like I said, I can not find it in my actual bios.
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dg35ec/ec_manual.htm
The only place I see the voltage setting mentioned is in the Glossary document. But, like I said, I can not find it in my actual bios.
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| Processor | R7 5800X @ Stock | i7 12700H @ Stock |
| Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231 |
| Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 | Stock Cooling |
| Memory | TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v | 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16) |
| Video Card(s) | Palit GeForce RTX 4070 JetStream 12GB | CPU-based Intel Iris XE + RTX 3070 8GB 150W |
| Storage | 4TB SP UD90 NVME, 960GB SATA SSD, 2TB HDD | 1TB Samsung OEM NVME SSD + 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVME SSD |
| Display(s) | Acer 28" 4K VG280K x2 | 16" 2560x1600 built-in |
| Case | Corsair 600C - Stock Fans on Low | Stock Metal/Plastic |
| Audio Device(s) | Aune T1 mk1 > AKG K553 Pro + JVC HA-RX 700 (Equalizer APO + PeaceUI) | Bluetooth Earbuds (BX29) |
| Power Supply | EVGA 750G2 Modular + APC Back-UPS Pro 1500 | 300W OEM (heavy use) or Lenovo Legion C135W GAN (light) |
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hmm...you may be right and have to go back to 1.8v memory. That or ditch that MB and get a Gigabyte P35-DS3L or something...I put one in my G/F's rig, does a great job and can go up to 2.3v iirc, OC's like a champ, and it wasn't hard to attain stability with it.
I know that's probably not an option for ya though...so get some 1.8v memory, or keep messing with your BIOS, maybe Google search your MB and see what others have done with that board and RAM...you may just find something.
I know that's probably not an option for ya though...so get some 1.8v memory, or keep messing with your BIOS, maybe Google search your MB and see what others have done with that board and RAM...you may just find something.
Want to let you all know I am up and running now. The main problem turmed out to be the new Sony DVD RW drive. Replaced it with a DVD drive I pulled out of my wife's PC and the Vista Ultimate disc booted immediately.
I also did obtain the Crucial memory rated for the intel MB.
Vista is now updating.
When I was doing the Vista install it apparently created one big partition using the whole 500 GB hard drive. I could figure out how to tell it to create two partitions. I was hoping to also install XP on this box.
Is it possible to partition now with out reinstalling Vista?
I also did obtain the Crucial memory rated for the intel MB.
Vista is now updating.
When I was doing the Vista install it apparently created one big partition using the whole 500 GB hard drive. I could figure out how to tell it to create two partitions. I was hoping to also install XP on this box.
Is it possible to partition now with out reinstalling Vista?
Ok, so now I am up and running. I am currently using the VGA connector on the MB for my monitor.
I do have installed the following video adapter card:
Video card PNY GeForce 9600 GT 512 MB
This card is installed in the PCIe slot. The fan on the card is running. The card has a power connector.
If I connect the power connector to the PNY card, I get no video via the card's two DVI connectors (using vga adapters), and I also lose video from the MB's vga connector.
Vista does not seem to see the PNY card. It does not show up in the hardware manager.
If I put in the CD that came with the card and try to use it to install drivers, it says there is no card installed that matches the drivers on the CD.
Any ideas what to do?
Also, I see there is a graphics card area in these forums, with an Nvidia subforum. This card is a PNY, using Nvidia firmware and software. Would this card be discussed in the Nvidia forum?
I do have installed the following video adapter card:
Video card PNY GeForce 9600 GT 512 MB
This card is installed in the PCIe slot. The fan on the card is running. The card has a power connector.
If I connect the power connector to the PNY card, I get no video via the card's two DVI connectors (using vga adapters), and I also lose video from the MB's vga connector.
Vista does not seem to see the PNY card. It does not show up in the hardware manager.
If I put in the CD that came with the card and try to use it to install drivers, it says there is no card installed that matches the drivers on the CD.
Any ideas what to do?
Also, I see there is a graphics card area in these forums, with an Nvidia subforum. This card is a PNY, using Nvidia firmware and software. Would this card be discussed in the Nvidia forum?
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my 2 cents:
might be a problem with that pci-e slot. do you have a second one? the board knows the card is plugged in, thats why the onboard no longer works when you have the card in the slot. possible power supply unit problem? try a different connector for power to the card.
hope it helps
might be a problem with that pci-e slot. do you have a second one? the board knows the card is plugged in, thats why the onboard no longer works when you have the card in the slot. possible power supply unit problem? try a different connector for power to the card.
hope it helps
Actually, the onboard works with the card in the slot. It quits when I plug in the card's supplemental power connector.
The Intel MB only has the one PCIe slot.
The fan on the video card runs without the supplemental power connector plugged in, so I assume that means the board is plugged into the slot correctly. Actually, it would be almost impossible not to have it plugged in correctly the way it is keyed.
The Intel MB only has the one PCIe slot.
The fan on the video card runs without the supplemental power connector plugged in, so I assume that means the board is plugged into the slot correctly. Actually, it would be almost impossible not to have it plugged in correctly the way it is keyed.