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tollickd

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I am looking for a good gaming pc.

I have 2 setups in mind.

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THERMALTAKE VB5000SNA TAI-CHI
INTEL CORE I5-750 2.66 GHZ LGA1156
ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER XTREME REV.2
KINGSTON KHX2000C9D3T1K2/4GX DDR3 4GB (2X2GB) PC16000 2000MHZ CL9 HYPERX DUAL CHANNEL KIT
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3R
MSI 4890 CYCLONE 1GB PCI-E RETAIL two for crossfire
MSI 4890 CYCLONE 1GB PCI-E RETAIL
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CORSAIR TX850W POWER SUPPLY

MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE 64-BIT

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THERMALTAKE VB5000SNA TAI-CHI
INTEL CORE I7-860 2.80 GHZ LGA1156
ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER XTREME REV.2
KINGSTON KHX2000C9D3T1K2/4GX DDR3 4GB (2X2GB) PC16000 2000MHZ CL9 HYPERX DUAL CHANNEL KIT
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3R
MSI 4890 CYCLONE 1GB PCI-E RETAIL
WESTERN DIGITAL WD5001AALS 500GB CAVIAR BLACK SATA2
WESTERN DIGITAL WD5001AALS 500GB CAVIAR BLACK SATA2
SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER P2350 23'' TFT MONITOR
CORSAIR TX850W POWER SUPPLY

MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE 64-BIT

If I get this one I would have to wait till March to buy a second 4890
 

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#2
I find the lack of 5850 distubing. The bottom one sounds good, but I would switch the HDD with the one above.
 
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i'd say just swap the 4890 with a 5850, both rig are good but i would pick rig 2 but with 5850.
 
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i'd say just swap the 4890 with a 5850, both rig are good but i would pick rig 2 but with 5850.
Seconded. And, unless you need all those functions on the 7 ultimate edition, save some money and get yourself the Pro or Home Premium edition.
 

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I would love to get a 5850 or 5950 but can't afford one at this time! I will be getting better next year some time!! till then I think i will get one 4890.

What is the 5750 like?

Which HDD would be better?

SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB SATA2

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2 x WESTERN DIGITAL WD5001AALS 500GB CAVIAR BLACK SATA2
 
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#6
There both good but the Seagate would have more cache memory so go with that, plus get a HD5850, you must get one if you can, not saying that the HD4890 iz crap, i think its still a great card but come one, mmmmm HD5850 can you smell the victory lol:D, maybe get a RC copy of Windows 7 (I should not say that here lol) it will save you money or at least or get a cheaper copy of windows 7.:D
 
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If you can afford cross 4890,I say buy a single 5850 now,save some money on power bill,maybe even flash and OC,and if necessary buy a second 5850 next year when prices will drop due to Fermi.5750 is basically @ 4850 level,5770 should have 4890 performance,at least with VRAM @ 1500

And another thing those hyperx seem a bit wasteful especially since games prefer lower freq but tighter latencies (1600 CAS7 should be better).And I think that a 750 PSU should do it(you're not welding mate)
 
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I would only been able to afford a cross of the 4890 if i went for a i5 but if i am going for a i7 i will get a 4890 to see me until the 5850 or 5950 comes back in
 
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what i would do is change the corsair 850W psu to the corsair 650W and see if you get enough cash to purchase 5850,if that don't work then i would go with 1st rig and get a 5850.
 

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I would only been able to afford a cross of the 4890 if i went for a i5 but if i am going for a i7 i will get a 4890 to see me until the 5850 or 5950 comes back in
If your primary concern is gaming, grab the i5 750 and a 5850. GPU is more important than cpu in gaming. If gaming is only a secondary concern, but the 860 and a 5770.
 
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what i would do is change the corsair 850W psu to the corsair 650W and see if you get enough cash to purchase 5850,if that don't work then i would go with 1st rig and get a 5850.
and cheaper ram :toast:
 
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OMG dont buy the Cyclone, reviewers say the card has not properly installed heatsinks, so it makes cores go to 110C plus! Look for a 5770 it will be better than 4890
Also that heatink no no
 

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OMG dont buy the Cyclone, reviewers say the card has not properly installed heatsinks, so it makes cores go to 110C plus! Look for a 5770 it will be better than 4890
Also that heatink no no
Is this true?

What about these cards

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5850.

Go Windows7 Home. There is no performance difference vs Ultimate. You wont be using those extra features for gaming anyway.

then go 2nd 5850 later on.
 
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ok keep the expensive Ultimate but buy a i5 (or go for a PII 965 +790FX) and ditch the 850W PSU a 750 or even a good 650 will suffice.The graphics card...buy ONE HD5850,the cheapest(in Ro it's MSI followed by Gigabyte) it should be close 4890 cross in highly optimized games and superior in another and then buy a second one when they get cheaper
 

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Which ever set up you go with I highly recommend RAID0. Games and apps will install much faster and game maps will load much faster.
 
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Stay away from Asus GPUs.
 

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Might I mention, go with a Phenom II 720BE, switch your 3rd party cooler, and use the cash you saved towards a 5870. Keep everything else the same in the 1st build.
 

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Might I mention, go with a Phenom II 720BE and use the cash you saved towards a 5870. Keep everything else the same in the 1st build.
Thats not a bad idea at all. Maybe even a 955 if you can find a good deal.

Why? I thought they make reasonably quality products.
After the 5th RMA they are great. Asus makes great mobos. Their GPUs suck donkey nuts.
 

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I can't find a 5850 but i have found 2 cheap GIGABYTE RADEON HD5770 would doing this in crossfire be good?
 
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5850 is guaranteed to be good, but some games dont utilise Xfire, so sometimes you will only be able to "use" a 5770. Its comparable in power though.