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Should I Build an AM3+ or FM2+ Machine?


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#51
Ok just to ask, I noticed that from reading the manuals of these boards

Asrock 990FX Extreme 9, Asus Crosshair V Formula Z, Asus Sabertooth R2.0 (990FX), Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5/7 all have PE slots that half their bandwidth when their lower slots are occupied.

Only the Asrock 990FX Extreme 4, Fatality Professional, Fatality Killer and Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 do not. I know AMD hasnt jumped on the PE 3.0 Spec but Id like to in the future maybe run 2 cards in crossfire at the full capability of the slots.

Also the Asus and Gigabyte boards only have a 8+2 Phase, where the AsRocks have a 12+2, Im thinking for the FX ud want the 12+2

Also on another Note- the 8350 is within my range(Cant find a 8300 at all- perhaps yall have a good place to find them). 9590 is just way too out of my range to build on.
 
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#52
I would go with the following:

FX 8350
AsRock Mobo
R9 290 NON X version (After market cooler of course)
8GB G.Skill (16GB is overkill and price of memory has doubled :()
MX-4 or Coolermaster compound maybe?
Plextor or Samsung Pro SSD's (5yr warranty)

Thats my 2 cents anyway :)
 

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#53
yeah it would seem the Extreme 4 or Fatality Professional would have what I need since it would seem the Asrock Extreme 9 drops the bandwidth of the PE slots when 2 video cards are used
 

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#54
ugh decisions-decisions
 

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I need a decent Sound Card, HT Omega Comes to mind, unless if Creative Labs has something great again
 
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#56
Dont need it. onboard is good enough.
 
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#57
Dont need it. onboard is good enough.
seconded: the ALC898 from my ASRock Z77 Ex4 deliver a quite good sound
the 990FX Ex4 has a ALC892 which is quite good too but the Fatal1ty has also a ALC892

the best in line atm is the Fatal1ty Killer which has a ALC1150 and in many review stand above other onboard audio chip
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- Premium Blu-ray Audio support
- Supports Purity Sound™
- 115dB SNR DAC with differential amplifier
- TI NE5532 Premium Headset Amplifier (Supports up to 600 ohm headsets)
- Direct Drive Technology
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I'm going to come in and say the Fatal1ty motherboard is a waste of money. I don't like ASRock, at all, that's my opinion, but if you're going to buy an ASRock, don't bother wasting time and money on the Fatal1ty version. Get an Extreme4 or Extreme6.

OP: Try not to double or triple post, it is frowned upon in this forum. There is an edit post button for you consideration. You've been here since 2007, how can you forget?

Also, coming from someone who's mostly used onboard sound, sound cards are worth it. I have a D2X in my spare rig, and it makes everything sound crystal clear. It also makes my microphone sound 10 times better. Since using it on my secondary rig (Main rig is down until tomorrow, then it's back to onboard sound), all my friends have mentioned how much better my mic sounds.
 

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#59
ive had good success with the AsRock Boards, just torn between the Sabertooth R2.0 and the Extreme 9









still undecided about the heatsink, motherboard, Video card i been told to go with a non x 290 non ref when they arrive.

Sound Card- Ht Omega Claro Halo or eClaro (less theres a better one out) (onboard audio gives me a headache).

Ram was easy to select.

Logitech G500S or Roccat Kone. (recalled uberoptions for the logitech mx series- MX510- great mouse for time.
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate or Roccat Keyboard (mechanical)
 
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#60
I'm going to come in and say the Fatal1ty motherboard is a waste of money. I don't like ASRock, at all, that's my opinion, but if you're going to buy an ASRock, don't bother wasting time and money on the Fatal1ty version. Get an Extreme4 or Extreme6.

OP: Try not to double or triple post, it is frowned upon in this forum. There is an edit post button for you consideration. You've been here since 2007, how can you forget?

Also, coming from someone who's mostly used onboard sound, sound cards are worth it. I have a D2X in my spare rig, and it makes everything sound crystal clear. It also makes my microphone sound 10 times better. Since using it on my secondary rig (Main rig is down until tomorrow, then it's back to onboard sound), all my friends have mentioned how much better my mic sounds.
i was just talking about the sound chip :D

ive had good success with the AsRock Boards, just torn between the Sabertooth R2.0 and the Extreme 9









still undecided about the heatsink, motherboard, Video card i been told to go with a non x 290 non ref when they arrive.

Sound Card- Ht Omega Claro Halo or eClaro (less theres a better one out) (onboard audio gives me a headache).

Ram was easy to select.

Logitech G500S or Roccat Kone. (recalled uberoptions for the logitech mx series- MX510- great mouse for time.
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate or Roccat Keyboard (mechanical)
i also had multiple good experiences with ASRock board : they never failed me, also the ASRock Z87 Formula OC has some real good review (waterproof mobo anyone? xD ) ASRock is slowly but steadily closing the gap between them and "high end" manufacturer, plus they are quite cheap for what they offer.

G500s btw : you can't go wrong with it!

fan : ASHURA! or Heligon, but ASHURAAAAAA!!! what the hell is that price ... almost the double of those i can buy here ... damned price conversion ...
 
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Xigmatek Dark Knight and Samsung Evo 840.
 

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Ok,

Xigmatech Dark Knight Black Hawk
Prolimatech Genesis/Black
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#63
Ok,

Xigmatech Dark Knight Black Hawk
Prolimatech Genesis/Black
Thermalright Macho
Silverstone Heligon HE 01
Scythe Ashura
Ashura and Macho are on the same perf level, the Heligon is a heavy one (perf wise) the 2 other i can't really tell but i would choose the Xigmatek over the Prolimatech and that even if i love Prolimatech
 

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Ill provide some numbers on a 3770k and a 3960x
 
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#65
Ill provide some numbers on a 3770k and a 3960x
friendly reminder : don't forget the edit button ;) and i would love numbers about those cooler
 

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I guess it will be the Ashura Then because of the temp comparison to the DarkRock Pro 2 at load
 
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I guess it will be the Ashura Then because of the temp comparison to the DarkRock Pro 2 at load
$87 for a air cooler bit too extreme. Go with TT Pro.
 

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On the cpu coolers....

I've found that the HDT coolers (Xig's) work best on AMD and solid base coolers do better than HDT coolers on Intel chips. All of those reviews are Intel chips from what I can see.

The Xig Dark Knight on my main rig has a pair of 1,500rpm Scythe fans on it and runs at 4.4Ghz 24/7 crunching full load, doing other tasks too, temps stay in the low 50's (socket)/high 40's (die) at all times.

TL;DR- My recommendation is an HDT cooler w/2 fans for an AMD chip
 

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HDT= what exactly?
 
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