New Gaming Rig (AMD)

eidairaman1 · Jan 3, 2014

Ok just to ask, I noticed that from reading the manuals of these boards

Asrock 990FX Extreme 9, Asus Crosshair V Formula Z, Asus Sabertooth R2.0 (990FX), Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5/7 all have PE slots that half their bandwidth when their lower slots are occupied.

Only the Asrock 990FX Extreme 4, Fatality Professional, Fatality Killer and Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 do not. I know AMD hasnt jumped on the PE 3.0 Spec but Id like to in the future maybe run 2 cards in crossfire at the full capability of the slots.

Also the Asus and Gigabyte boards only have a 8+2 Phase, where the AsRocks have a 12+2, Im thinking for the FX ud want the 12+2

Also on another Note- the 8350 is within my range(Cant find a 8300 at all- perhaps yall have a good place to find them). 9590 is just way too out of my range to build on.

Melvis · Jan 3, 2014

I would go with the following:

FX 8350
AsRock Mobo
R9 290 NON X version (After market cooler of course)
8GB G.Skill (16GB is overkill and price of memory has doubled

)
MX-4 or Coolermaster compound maybe?
Plextor or Samsung Pro SSD's (5yr warranty)

Thats my 2 cents anyway

eidairaman1 · Jan 3, 2014

yeah it would seem the Extreme 4 or Fatality Professional would have what I need since it would seem the Asrock Extreme 9 drops the bandwidth of the PE slots when 2 video cards are used

eidairaman1 · Jan 3, 2014

ugh decisions-decisions

eidairaman1 · Jan 9, 2014

I need a decent Sound Card, HT Omega Comes to mind, unless if Creative Labs has something great again

Melvis · Jan 9, 2014

Dont need it. onboard is good enough.

GreiverBlade · Jan 9, 2014

Melvis said:
Dont need it. onboard is good enough.

seconded: the ALC898 from my ASRock Z77 Ex4 deliver a quite good sound
the 990FX Ex4 has a ALC892 which is quite good too but the Fatal1ty has also a ALC892

the best in line atm is the Fatal1ty Killer which has a ALC1150 and in many review stand above other onboard audio chip
Audio
- 7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC1150 Audio Codec)
- Premium Blu-ray Audio support
- Supports Purity Sound™
- 115dB SNR DAC with differential amplifier
- TI NE5532 Premium Headset Amplifier (Supports up to 600 ohm headsets)
- Direct Drive Technology
- EMI shielding cover
- PCB isolate shielding
- Supports DTS Connect

RCoon · Jan 9, 2014

I'm going to come in and say the Fatal1ty motherboard is a waste of money. I don't like ASRock, at all, that's my opinion, but if you're going to buy an ASRock, don't bother wasting time and money on the Fatal1ty version. Get an Extreme4 or Extreme6.

OP: Try not to double or triple post, it is frowned upon in this forum. There is an edit post button for you consideration. You've been here since 2007, how can you forget?

Also, coming from someone who's mostly used onboard sound, sound cards are worth it. I have a D2X in my spare rig, and it makes everything sound crystal clear. It also makes my microphone sound 10 times better. Since using it on my secondary rig (Main rig is down until tomorrow, then it's back to onboard sound), all my friends have mentioned how much better my mic sounds.

eidairaman1 · Jan 10, 2014

ive had good success with the AsRock Boards, just torn between the Sabertooth R2.0 and the Extreme 9

still undecided about the heatsink, motherboard, Video card i been told to go with a non x 290 non ref when they arrive.

Sound Card- Ht Omega Claro Halo or eClaro (less theres a better one out) (onboard audio gives me a headache).

Ram was easy to select.

Logitech G500S or Roccat Kone. (recalled uberoptions for the logitech mx series- MX510- great mouse for time.
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate or Roccat Keyboard (mechanical)

GreiverBlade · Jan 10, 2014

RCoon said:
I'm going to come in and say the Fatal1ty motherboard is a waste of money. I don't like ASRock, at all, that's my opinion, but if you're going to buy an ASRock, don't bother wasting time and money on the Fatal1ty version. Get an Extreme4 or Extreme6.

OP: Try not to double or triple post, it is frowned upon in this forum. There is an edit post button for you consideration. You've been here since 2007, how can you forget?

Also, coming from someone who's mostly used onboard sound, sound cards are worth it. I have a D2X in my spare rig, and it makes everything sound crystal clear. It also makes my microphone sound 10 times better. Since using it on my secondary rig (Main rig is down until tomorrow, then it's back to onboard sound), all my friends have mentioned how much better my mic sounds.

i was just talking about the sound chip

eidairaman1 said:
ive had good success with the AsRock Boards, just torn between the Sabertooth R2.0 and the Extreme 9

still undecided about the heatsink, motherboard, Video card i been told to go with a non x 290 non ref when they arrive.

Sound Card- Ht Omega Claro Halo or eClaro (less theres a better one out) (onboard audio gives me a headache).

Ram was easy to select.

Logitech G500S or Roccat Kone. (recalled uberoptions for the logitech mx series- MX510- great mouse for time.
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate or Roccat Keyboard (mechanical)

i also had multiple good experiences with ASRock board : they never failed me, also the ASRock Z87 Formula OC has some real good review (waterproof mobo anyone? xD ) ASRock is slowly but steadily closing the gap between them and "high end" manufacturer, plus they are quite cheap for what they offer.

G500s btw : you can't go wrong with it!

fan : ASHURA! or Heligon, but ASHURAAAAAA!!! what the hell is that price ... almost the double of those i can buy here ... damned price conversion ...

HD64G · Jan 10, 2014

Xigmatek Dark Knight and Samsung Evo 840.

eidairaman1 · Jan 10, 2014

Ok,

Xigmatech Dark Knight Black Hawk
Prolimatech Genesis/Black
Thermalright Macho
Silverstone Heligon HE 01
Scythe Ashura

GreiverBlade · Jan 10, 2014

eidairaman1 said:
Ok,

Xigmatech Dark Knight Black Hawk
Prolimatech Genesis/Black
Thermalright Macho
Silverstone Heligon HE 01
Scythe Ashura

Ashura and Macho are on the same perf level, the Heligon is a heavy one (perf wise) the 2 other i can't really tell but i would choose the Xigmatek over the Prolimatech and that even if i love Prolimatech

eidairaman1 · Jan 10, 2014

Ill provide some numbers on a 3770k and a 3960x

GreiverBlade · Jan 10, 2014

eidairaman1 said:
Ill provide some numbers on a 3770k and a 3960x

friendly reminder : don't forget the edit button

and i would love numbers about those cooler

eidairaman1 · Jan 10, 2014

Greiver Heres what i found about the coolers
Xigmatek

Thermalright

Scythe

Prolimatech

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Prolimatech/Black_Series_Genesis/6.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Scythe/Ashura/6.html

suraswami · Jan 10, 2014

Just incase if you haven't checked, check out the new ASRock entry

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157479

http://www.techpowerup.com/195720/asrock-fatal1ty-990fx-killer-detailed.html

eidairaman1 · Jan 10, 2014

suraswami said:
Just incase if you haven't checked, check out the new ASRock entry

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157479

Ive seen it already, 8 phase just like the Asus Sabertooth. what you think of the numbers i just applied above for OC temps on different series of CPUs?

GreiverBlade · Jan 10, 2014

suraswami said:
Just incase if you haven't checked, check out the new ASRock entry

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157479

134ish $ wow quite correct for a mobo with a killer NIC and a ALC1150 + the features added

eidairaman1 said:
what you think of the numbers i just applied above for OC temps on different series of CPUs?

they all fight in the same league ... choose the best price/perf ratio then

eidairaman1 · Jan 10, 2014

I guess it will be the Ashura Then because of the temp comparison to the DarkRock Pro 2 at load

suraswami · Jan 10, 2014

eidairaman1 said:
Ive seen it already, 8 phase just like the Asus Sabertooth. what you think of the numbers i just applied above for OC temps on different series of CPUs?

For 8350 if not crazy OC and limit to 4.4 or 4.5 any decent heat pipe cooler will work. But better is going to Water cooling, closed loop should be fine. Thermaltake Pro series closed loop is a good choice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106189

suraswami · Jan 10, 2014

eidairaman1 said:
I guess it will be the Ashura Then because of the temp comparison to the DarkRock Pro 2 at load

$87 for a air cooler bit too extreme. Go with TT Pro.

Norton · Jan 10, 2014

On the cpu coolers....

I've found that the HDT coolers (Xig's) work best on AMD and solid base coolers do better than HDT coolers on Intel chips. All of those reviews are Intel chips from what I can see.

The Xig Dark Knight on my main rig has a pair of 1,500rpm Scythe fans on it and runs at 4.4Ghz 24/7 crunching full load, doing other tasks too, temps stay in the low 50's (socket)/high 40's (die) at all times.

TL;DR- My recommendation is an HDT cooler w/2 fans for an AMD chip

eidairaman1 · Jan 11, 2014

HDT= what exactly?

GreiverBlade · Jan 11, 2014

eidairaman1 said:
HDT= what exactly?

heatpipe direct touch

System Name	PCGOD
Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

System Name	Night Rider \| Mini LAN PC \| Workhorse
Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D \| Ryzen 1600X \| i7 970
Motherboard	MSi AM4 Pro Carbon \| GA- \| Gigabyte EX58-UD5
Cooling	Noctua U9S Twin Fan\| Stock Cooler, Copper Core)\| Big shairkan B
Memory	2x8GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws 3600MHz\| 2x8GB Corsair 3000 \| 6x2GB DDR3 1300 Corsair
Video Card(s)	MSI AMD 6750XT \| 6500XT \| MSI RX 580 8GB
Storage	1TB WD Black NVME / 250GB SSD /2TB WD Black \| 500GB SSD WD, 2x1TB, 1x750 \| WD 500 SSD/Seagate 320
Display(s)	LG 27" 1440P\| Samsung 20" S20C300L/DELL 15" \| 22" DELL/19"DELL
Case	LIAN LI PC-18 \| Mini ATX Case (custom) \| Atrix C4 9001
Audio Device(s)	Onboard \| Onbaord \| Onboard
Power Supply	Silverstone 850 \| Silverstone Mini 450W \| Corsair CX-750
Mouse	Coolermaster Pro \| Rapoo V900 \| Gigabyte 6850X
Keyboard	MAX Keyboard Nighthawk X8 \| Creative Fatal1ty eluminx \| Some POS Logitech
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64 \| Windows 10 Pro 64 \| Windows 7 Pro 64/Windows 10 Home

System Name	PCGOD
Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

System Name	PCGOD
Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

System Name	PCGOD
Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

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Processor	Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus
Cooling	Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one
Memory	64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5
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Power Supply	Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W
Mouse	Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch
Keyboard	Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual
VR HMD	Medion Erazer
Software	Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64
Benchmark Scores	bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o

System Name	HP Omen 17
Processor	i7 7700HQ
Memory	16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s)	GTX 1060
Storage	Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s)	1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s)	Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply	230W
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD+
Software	Win 10 Pro

Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 5600@80W
Motherboard	MSI B550 Tomahawk
Cooling	ZALMAN CNPS9X OPTIMA
Memory	2*8GB PATRIOT PVS416G400C9K@3733MT_C16
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse 12GB
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Display(s)	AOC 27G2U/BK IPS 144Hz
Case	SHARKOON M25-W 7.1 BLACK
Audio Device(s)	Realtek 7.1 onboard
Power Supply	Seasonic Core GC 500W
Mouse	Sharkoon SHARK Force Black
Keyboard	Trust GXT280
Software	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit/Win 10 pro 64bit/Manjaro Linux

System Name	---
Processor	FX 8350 @ 4.00 Ghz with 1.28v
Motherboard	Gigabyte 990FX-UD3 v4.0, Hacked Bios F4.x
Cooling	Silenx 4 pipe Tower cooler + 2 x Cougar 120mm fan, 3 x 120mm, 1 x 200 mm Red LED fan
Memory	Kingston HyperX DDR3 1866 16GB + Patriot Memory DDR3 1866 16GB
Video Card(s)	Asus R9 290 OC @ GPU - 1050, MEM - 1300
Storage	Inland 256GB PCIe NVMe SSD for OS, WDC Black - 2TB + 1TB Storage, Inland 480GB SSD - Games
Display(s)	3 x 1080P LCDs - Acer 25" + Acer 23" + HP 23"
Case	AeroCool XPredator X3
Audio Device(s)	Built-in Realtek
Power Supply	Corsair HX1000 Modular
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

System Name	Main PC- Gamer- Main Cruncher/Folder and too many crunching/folding rigs
Processor	Ryzen 5900X- Ryzen 5950X- Ryzen 3950X and etc...
Motherboard	Asrock X570 Extreme4- MSI X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi- MSI B450M Bazooka Max and etc...
Cooling	Noctua NH-U14S (dual fan)- EK 360 AIO with push/pull fans- Corsair H115i RGB Pro XT and etc...
Memory	2x16GB GSkill FlareX 3200/c14- 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3600/c16- 2x16GB Team 3600/c18 and etc..
Video Card(s)	MSI Gaming RX 6800- Asus RTX 3070 TUF OC- MSI Ventus GTX 1660Ti and etc...
Storage	Main PC (1TB WD SN850- 2TB PNY CS 3040- 2TB Seagate Firecuda) and etc...
Display(s)	Main PC (2x24" Dell UltraSharp U2414H)
Case	Phanteks P600s- Seasonic Q704- Fractal Meshify C and etc...
Audio Device(s)	Logitech Z625 THX 2.1 speakers
Power Supply	EVGA 750 G3- SeaSonic DGC 750- EVGA P2 850 and etc...
Mouse	G300s
Keyboard	Corsair K65
VR HMD	N/A
Software	Windows 10 Pro or Ubuntu
Benchmark Scores	Why sit on the Bench when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!

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