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Need to put some zeros and a water chiller on that TDPThat’s probably just the 4.0ghz all-core TDP—it just goes up from there.

Need to put some zeros and a water chiller on that TDPThat’s probably just the 4.0ghz all-core TDP—it just goes up from there.
System Name | Barb's Domain/Barb's Cruncher#2 |
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Processor | i7 3930k@4.2ghz/i7 860 @ 3.3ghz |
Motherboard | ASUS Rampage IV Black Edition/Gigabyte P55-UD3R |
Cooling | Deep Cool Assassin/Corsair A50 |
Memory | 16gig DDR3 1600/4gig DDR3 1600 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1070 /MSI HD7770 |
Storage | 500GB WD Blue SSD, 2TB Seagate Hybrid SSHD/ WD Caviar Blue 160gb |
Display(s) | HP ZR30W 30" 2560*1600/SOYO Topaz S 24" 1920*1200 |
Case | SilverStone Fortress FT04/NZXT Source 210 Black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z533 |
Power Supply | XFX 750W XXX edition/PC Power Cooling Turbo Cool 860 |
Mouse | Logitect G5 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 bit /Windows 7 Ult 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14508101 |
AMD fanboy. Intel didn't lose core war! WTF they did release 8/16 CPU which obliterates AMD CPU. And yet AMD hasn't released 7nm CPU yet, fanboy.Intel:
"We've already lost the cores war, let's at least keep winning the clocks war !"
AMD 7nm chiplet:
"Hold my beer"
9900K: £500 but 25% faster (in synthetic benchmarks)!AMD fanboy. Intel didn't lose core war! WTF they did release 8/16 CPU which obliterates AMD CPU. And yet AMD hasn't released 7nm CPU yet, fanboy.
As I've said, there are rumors about this chip being an exclusive. The rumors dating from a couple of weeks ago claimed it will only be available through selected system builders and through auction(!). I really hope these rumors are untrue. Launching products and sending them to reviewers is a bad thing if the customers can't buy the thing, regardless of how good/bad it may be. One example of this would be the i7-8086K, a perfectly fine product, except that it was not really available.Most people use OEM PCs so I literally have no idea what you mean by "widely available".
It is certainly pushing a territory where things get really hot, especially if you're going to run this for hours of load at the time. But the biggest problem will probably be airflow in the case, rather than the CPU cooler itself.255 tdp? How in the hell are they cooling that heat beast? Custom water-cooling required to keep it under 80' c at full load?
Informative post, thanks. Would you not be able to buy something like a 9980XE and manually overclock it to 4.6 ? With a decent AIO it would be okay I think.This is not just an overclocked i9-9940X. But obviously it's binned, like all microchips are, what you guys mean is it's a higher bin than i9-9940X, "cherry-picked" or "golden samples" if you will.
I do think Intel is pushing it too far here, both because 255W TDP is getting into a territory it's hard to cool without massive cooling, and secondly because they can't supply enough of these.
But I do like the idea behind the product, a HEDT CPU which have as many fast cores as possible, rather than just as many cores as possible by sacrificing a bit of core speed. So I think a HEDT CPU with as many fast cores as possible (and keeping TDP at ~200W) would be a good complement to HEDT CPUs with many more cores.
When it comes to workstation use, the best choice is not as simple as the highest core count etc., it really comes down to the tasks the machine will be running. People commonly think it comes down to multithreading or not, but in reality many heavily multithreaded workloads are sensitive to core speed. There are async multithreaded workloads, where worker threads are basically independent and can scale those workloads almost linearly until you run out of cores or hit a bottleneck. Many typical server loads fall into this category, but also larger batches of rendering or video encoding. For such workloads it's fine to sacrifice core speed, because what matters is total throughput. On the other hand there are many workloads which are synchronized, and while they still benefit from more cores, the synchronization overhead grows quickly, so more core speed is required to achieve good scaling.
While the current HEDT lineup is of course generally good, it's still not good enough to convince me to pull the trigger for my particular mix of development and CAD/modeling needs. And I have worked on Skylake-X, so I know how much better than its predecessors it is. So for me I would probably have to wait longer, until Ice Lake-X/SP arrives in 2020, and then go for the CPU with the highest number of fast cores.
As I've said, there are rumors about this chip being an exclusive. The rumors dating from a couple of weeks ago claimed it will only be available through selected system builders and through auction(!). I really hope these rumors are untrue. Launching products and sending them to reviewers is a bad thing if the customers can't buy the thing, regardless of how good/bad it may be. One example of this would be the i7-8086K, a perfectly fine product, except that it was not really available.
It is certainly pushing a territory where things get really hot, especially if you're going to run this for hours of load at the time. But the biggest problem will probably be airflow in the case, rather than the CPU cooler itself.
But still remember that GPUs manage to do 250-300W with less optimal airflow, but are not completely silent though.
I appreciate that.Informative post, thanks. Would you not be able to buy something like a 9980XE and manually overclock it to 4.6 ? With a decent AIO it would be okay I think.
System Name | Dark Sith Lord / Fat Boy |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 2600X / AMD FX 8350 |
Motherboard | ASrock X370 Gaming X / Gigabyte 990XA UD3 R5 |
Cooling | Cooler master Hyper 212 Turbo LED (2x120mm in push-pull) / Antec Kuhler 2x120mm in push-pull |
Memory | 2x8gb Patriot Viper4 DDR4 3200MHz / 4x4gb Kingston HyperX DDR3 1866MHz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce OC 6gb / Gainward GTX 950 2gb |
Storage | Crucial P1 NVMe 1tb, 2x Barracuda 2TB, 1x IronWolf NAS 2TB / Samsung 840 Evo 500gb + Samsung F1 1tb |
Display(s) | BenQ GL2450 24'' / Samsung Syncmaster 20'' 2043nw |
Case | CM HAF 932 (CM 200mm [Red Led] front & side intake, Shark Evil Black 140mm exhaust) / NZXT Trinity |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1220 on Creative Inspire S2 2.1 / Realtek 889 on Creative SBS Vivid 60 2.0 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova B2 750w / Thermaltake Toughpower 700w |
Mouse | Steelseries Rival 110 / Sharkoon Skiller SGM2 |
Keyboard | Philips SPK84 (blue switches) / Motospeed CK-104 (red switches) - All with silicone o'rings Mods |
Software | Win10 Pro x64 / Win7 Ultimate x64 |
Sure dude, sure.AMD fanboy. Intel didn't lose core war! WTF they did release 8/16 CPU which obliterates AMD CPU. And yet AMD hasn't released 7nm CPU yet, fanboy.
System Name | Not so complete or overkill |
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Processor | 5960X @ 4.20Ghz @ 1.06v - For Crunching!! |
Motherboard | MSI X99 Titanium Gaming |
Cooling | Custom loop with old bits and pieces that I need to replace |
Memory | G Skill TridentX 3466 non RGB.. |
Video Card(s) | 2 x EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition |
Storage | Sandisk 120Gb SSD, 2 x 2Tb Sammy 3.5" drives - Need more drives!! |
Display(s) | 3 x 23" LG IPS panels (can't remember model!!) |
Case | 10mm thick MDF on plastic risers.. It's kinda a case?? |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | EVGA T2 1200w |
Mouse | Corsair thingy |
Keyboard | Corsair thingy |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | It's not to bad.. More importantly, it works!! |
I'd be rather surprised if an AIO would actually allow it to get that far.. I'm not sure what those things can handle but I'd have thought you'd have needed a custom loop or something to that effect to get it that fast?Informative post, thanks. Would you not be able to buy something like a 9980XE and manually overclock it to 4.6 ? With a decent AIO it would be okay I think.
If you're buying this CPU, it's not for multicore, because AMD has that segment sewn up with TR.Yes but 9980XE with 8 more threads at , like 4.6-4.8 GHz will still be faster in multicore workloads than this at 5 Ghz all core, can it even reach that though? I just dont see the point.
HAHAHA you didn't read AnandTech's review of the Xeon W-3175X did you? Here's a choice quote:255 Watt TDP? What is this, a freaking Bulldozer?!
Over 1kW for a single CPU. Not the system as a whole, just the CPU.Ian Cutress said:At 4.3 GHz, we were hitting almost 600W peak load (confirmed by wall meter), which is the limit of the cooling setup provided.
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We took some of our benchmark values for power and frequency, extrapolated them with a power curve, and we estimate that at 5.0 GHz, this chip is likely to be drawing in excess of 900W, perhaps as high as 1200W. Yes, Intel really did need that 1700W water chiller.
System Name | Kratos |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 3930k @ 4.75Ghz |
Motherboard | ASUS P9X79 Deluxe |
Cooling | Corsair H100i V2 |
Memory | G.Skill DDR3-2133, 16gb (4x4gb) @ 9-11-10-28-108-1T 1.65v |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
Storage | 2x120Gb SATA3 SSD Raid-0, 4x1Tb RAID-5, 1x500GB, 1x512GB Samsung 960 Pro NVMe |
Display(s) | 1x LG 27UD69P (4k), 2x Dell S2340M (1080p) |
Case | Antec 1200 |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Realtek® ALC898 8-Channel High Definition Audio |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1000-watt 80 PLUS Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Rosewill RK-9100 |
Software | Ubuntu 18.04 (5.3.0 Mainline Kernel) |
Benchmark Scores | Benchmarks aren't everything. |
Extrapolated, but still... 600 off the wall is insane. I thought my 3930k overclocked was hungry. Someone needs to tell Intel to never go full retard.HAHAHA you didn't read AnandTech's review of the Xeon W-3175X did you? Here's a choice quote:
Over 1kW for a single CPU. Not the system as a whole, just the CPU.
What would be really funny is if that actually happened somewhere.Intel:
"We've already lost the cores war, let's at least keep winning the clocks war !"
AMD 7nm chiplet:
"Hold my beer"
To be fair, 14 core hyperthreaded extreme edition CPU running at 4ghz, boosting to 5.1ghz. Just throwing it out there..255 Watt TDP? What is this, a freaking Bulldozer?!
Doesn't need any of that, it has the "Xeon" in the name.Nope, it lacks a sufficient amount of 9's and its not over 9000![]()
It has the same specs as a 9940X, except that its clock speeds are higher. So, yeah, it is a factory overclocked 9940X.This is not just an overclocked i9-9940X. But obviously it's binned, like all microchips are, what you guys mean is it's a higher bin than i9-9940X, "cherry-picked" or "golden samples" if you will.
Processor | Intel Core i5 4590 |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte Z97x Gaming 3 |
Cooling | Intel Stock Cooler |
Memory | 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3-800MHz [1600MT/s] |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 560 4GB |
Storage | Transcend SSD370S 128GB; Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB |
Display(s) | Samsung S20D300 20" 768p TN |
Case | Delux DLC-MV888 |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1150 |
Power Supply | Corsair VS450 |
Mouse | A4Tech OP-620D |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | BaseMark GPU : 250 Point |
No. It puts Bulldozer in shame. Its Skylake.255 Watt TDP? What is this, a freaking Bulldozer?!
Sky is the limit. Power limit!No. It puts Bulldozer in shame. Its Skylake.
System Name | (PC / PS4 / PS3 / PS2 / XBOX 360) and other stuff |
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Processor | i9-7980xe 4.7ghz HT off 1.21v/ 6600k 4.9ghz 1.43v/x5650 |
Motherboard | X299 Omega Extreme/ Z270X gaming 7/Clevo x7200 |
Cooling | alphacool eisbaer 360mm/Silent loop 280mm/Stock |
Memory | 64gb (4x16gb) Trident Z 3600mhz cl17 /32gb ddr4 corsair vengance lpx cl14 2400mhz /24gb ddr3 1333mhz |
Video Card(s) | Evga gtx 1080 ti ftw3 @ 2000mhz/5508mhz XOC BIOS + alphacool nexxos gpx / asus 560 ti 1gb/ 460M sli |
Storage | kingston ssdnow uv400 480gb ssd (os) toshiba x300 6tb (everything else)/ 750gb/10tb Elements |
Display(s) | ElectriQ 4k 28" TN 60hz / Samsung 931cw /1080p 17.3" laptop |
Case | Corsair Carbide 600c/Be quiet! Dark base 700/Lego pc case/clevo x7200 |
Audio Device(s) | Hyper x cloud revolver s |
Power Supply | Seasonic snow silent 750w/Be quiet power pro 11 750w |
Mouse | Mad Catz Rat Pro X (x4, one with broken off scroll wheel) / Lynx bluetooth controllers x3 |
Keyboard | Havit gaming keyboard (amazon keyboard+mouse bundle) |
Software | Windows 10 pro + Kali linux |
Benchmark Scores | Too many to fit here, but here's one. https://valid.x86.fr/eduleq |
System Name | unnamed currently :*( |
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Processor | Intel Core i7-5960x |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 |
Cooling | EKWB/Bitspower CPU, motherboard & GPU WB |
Memory | Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x4gb ddr4 2666 |
Video Card(s) | nVidia GTX 1080 Ti FE 11GB |
Storage | Samsung 960 Evo 1 TB M.2 SSD & WD Black 5TB HDD |
Display(s) | Asus SwiftROG PG278Q & Asus PB277Q |
Case | Corsair 900D |
Audio Device(s) | Sound Blaster Zx |
Power Supply | Corsair Axi1200 |
Mouse | Steel Series Sensei RAW |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 |
Benchmark Scores | 4.8 ghz @ 1.37 - 5930k - old cpu 4.6 GHZ @ 1.3 - 5960X - current cpu |
I'd hope any HEDT these days would be custom loop cooling at a minimum, wouldn't want to think about air.255 tdp? How in the hell are they cooling that heat beast? Custom water-cooling required to keep it under 80' c at full load?
Processor | Ryzen 2700X |
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Motherboard | X470 Tachi Ultimate |
Cooling | Scythe Big Shuriken 3 |
Memory | C.R.S. |
Video Card(s) | Radeon VII |
Software | Win 7 |
Benchmark Scores | Never high enough |
System Name | Starlifter :: Dragonfly |
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Processor | i7 2600k 4.4GHz :: Athlon II x4 630 3.5GHz |
Motherboard | ASUS P8P67 Pro :: GIgabyte GA-770T-USB3 |
Cooling | Corsair H70 :: Thermaltake Big Typhoon |
Memory | 2x4GB DDR3 1866 :: 2x1GB DDR3 1333 |
Video Card(s) | 2x PNY GTX1070 :: none |
Storage | Plextor M5s 128GB, WDC Black 500GB :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, WD RE3 1TB |
Display(s) | Acer P216HL HDMI :: None |
Case | Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard - iLive IT153B Soundbar (optical) :: None |
Power Supply | EVGA 500w 80 Plus :: Wounded Corsair CX600 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly |
Benchmark Scores | >9000 |
So with Multicore enhancement enabled the TDP will be.. what? 300+ watt ?
And how this thing will be efficiently cooled?
Pictured above, Intel's planned box cooler for Sunny Cove.
Processor | Ryzen Threadripper 1950X |
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Motherboard | X399 Fatal1ty Professional Gaming |
Cooling | Custom loop water, 3x 420 Rad |
Memory | Team T-FORCE XCALIBUR RGB 4000 @3400 CL14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac RTX 2080 Ti |
Storage | Samsung 960 Evo 512GB 3-way Raid 0 |
Display(s) | Samsung C27HG70 |
Case | Thermaltake Level 20 XT |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA Nu Audio |
Power Supply | FSP Aurum PT 1200W |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |
TBH those TR4 air coolers that released with second gen Threadripper does a respectable job at cooling the CPU.I'd hope any HEDT these days would be custom loop cooling at a minimum, wouldn't want to think about air.
System Name | Sillicon Nightmares |
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Processor | Intel i5 4690K (4.7GHZ 1.372vcore, 4.0GHZ 1.192vring, VCCIN 1.84v) |
Motherboard | Asrock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer BIOS P2.40 |
Cooling | DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 360 |
Memory | 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws V 2400mhz 10-14-13-32 2T, vDIMM 1.775v |
Video Card(s) | ASUS GTX 1060 Strix 6GB OC, Core: 2190mhz, Vcore: 1.075v, Mem: 4909mhz (Sillicon Lottery Jackpot) |
Storage | Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SSD, WD Blue 1TB |
Display(s) | BenQ XL2430 1080p 144HZ + (2) Samsung SyncMaster 913v 1280x1024 75HZ + A Shitty TV For Movies |
Case | Deepcool Genome ROG Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Bunta Sniff Speakers From The Tip Edition |
Power Supply | Corsair CX430M + CableMod Cables |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Shitty Dell Office Keyboard |
Software | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit |
Benchmark Scores | 12 101 Firestrike (3rd for my hardware) |
pretty impressive how far they pushed it, 700mm sqaured dies and most can hit 4.5+ghzEven with 4 less cores the TDP went up by 50% and they are usually pretty liberal with these ratings. That 14nm process is at it's absolute limit.