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Wassup all.

Thinking its about time for an upgrade.
This time my old and trusting Logitech G15 has to go.:respect:..its done me proud.

Have 2 in mind..



Im not really fussed on brand,but must have a wrist support. budget of about 100£-120£.

Or perhaps i could go for a Keyboard and Mouse combo at the right price.
 

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Well i heartily recommend the corsair k65 lux RGB, Not usre about logitech ones, but imo the icue software can control settings on all your corsair devices. I'm using a k65 lux rgb keyboars, scimitar rgb mouse, and commander pro for fans and rgb strips, all managed by icue. Take a look.
 
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Well i heartily recommend the corsair k65 lux RGB, Not usre about logitech ones, but imo the icue software can control settings on all your corsair devices. I'm using a k65 lux rgb keyboars, scimitar rgb mouse, and commander pro for fans and rgb strips, all managed by icue. Take a look.
yea i did see that one aswell.

thats a good looking board with good reviews.
 
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Just an idea: wrist rests are sold separately for few coins. And if your chair has the correct height I see no point in a wrist rest....
 

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yea i did see that one aswell.

thats a good looking board with good reviews.
Its a tkl, tenk key less board, personally I don't miss the num pad. incidentally I have a rgb profile for this for farcry 5 that is pretty darn impressive to see too, there are lots of great rgb profiles on the net for this board.
 
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If you bought a keyboard with replaceable switches then these may come in handy some day.
 
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also this one has 50£ off which seems pretty good.
Well I have used the Corsair K95 for years and its been a good keyboard. Even survived a soda poured in it. (Lots of 99.9% Alcohol and contact cleaner later)
But the switches are soldered in so can't change the switches without de-soldering I think.
 
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Just an idea: wrist rests are sold separately for few coins. And if your chair has the correct height I see no point in a wrist rest....
I agree that wrist supports (and nice, gel padded ones too) can be sold separately so you probably should not let the lack of an integrated support keep you from buying a keyboard you otherwise like.

I disagree completely with the suggestion wrist support is not needed with proper chair height. That may be true from some folks but that is just by lucky chance based on where their keyboard sits with their own desk. Proper chair height for proper ergonomics should be set (if possible) based on your body dimensions, not your keyboard height. That is, your feet should rest flat on the floor, your knees should be slightly lower than your waist and your legs bent slightly more than a right (90°) angle. That is, they should not be straight out in front of you or tucked under your butt.

That, of course, has nothing to do with keyboard height. And I note most keyboards have rear height adjustments to change the tilt of the keyboard that may or may not aggravate (or alleviate) wrist pain. That is not a chair function.

Proper posture (hip, spine and neck alignment) when sitting is much more important than your wrist's angle of attack when it comes to desk chairs. And chair height is all about how your feet sit flat on the floor. Wrist alignment is certainly important, but spine and neck come first.

@stuartb04 - You didn't say what you use this computer for.

Note that keyboards (and mice) are extensions of our own hands and therefore, need to feel right with our own hands, not others. What feels great to me may feel awkward or even painful in yours. I, for example, like a curved keyboard so my wrists can approach "naturally" at an angle instead of having to twist at the wrist and approach from the center of my chest. What I am saying is you really need to go visit local stores and play touchy feely with these keyboards for yourself to feel which feels best to you. Just take some hand sanitizer with you! :eek: Also, keep in mind those demo models have probably been abused so the keystrokes/clicks may not feel like a new keyboard might.

Do you really want an RGB keyboard? I realize they are all the latest rage but I have several clients who has used (or have kids who have used) RGB keyboards. And while they may love the feel, function and performance of the keyboards, once the novelty of the pretty lights wore off, they found the RGB lighting to be more distracting than anything else. After all it is what's happening on the monitor(s) that's important.

Or perhaps i could go for a Keyboard and Mouse combo at the right price.
Well the problem with a set is you might really like the keyboard, but not the mouse. Or the mouse but not the keyboard. If wireless, they typically work with just one USB dongle so that is really nice. FTR, I don't know who makes the keyboards and mice for Microsoft, but I really like the Wireless Comfort 5050 set. The curved design is easy on my wrist, the wireless is encrypted :) and the universal mouse is really great at tracking and I like it because I use my mouse with my left hand even though I am right-handed. And also FTR, my wrist could not live without Belkin Gel Wrist Pad. They offer a keyboard wrist pad too but I don't need it with this keyboard.

But again, while they feel great in my hands, you need to try it for yourself. All I can really say is the build-quality is great, the keystrokes are firm, but not too hard (how I like them), and the wireless feature works great. I do recommend using rechargeable AA batteries as with my usage, I have to replace them about every 5 months.

Speaking of wireless keyboards and mice - I love them. I love never having wires get tangled in my feet. And I especially love never having a wire pull back on my mouse.
 

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also this one has 50£ off which seems pretty good.
That's not bad but too big for me with num pad
 
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Have a look at some of the new low profile mechanical keyboards. The Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile is really nice to type on, while still being good for gaming. A bit too rich for your budget though, but there might be some other good alternatives.

I backed this on Kickstarter and so far it's been a solid keyboard, even though their software isn't done yet https://wooting.io/wootingtwo
No wrist rest though.
 
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I am very disappointed that these are now proced outside the realm of affordability. I;d buy a 2080 Ti before Id buy a $500 KB. I have some to rely on the LCD so much over the years. Only downside was, they won't survive the dishwasher like my older ones did. I keep hoping case manufacturers start including LCDs visible thru the side panel or where 5.25 bays used to go.

Ergonomics is a package and it's not a one size fits all thing ... a well designed desk will have KB frawer with built in wrist rest. I have a foam padded wrist rest for my mouse, but my son who is taller rotates the pad when he uses the puter so that it's on the far side because with his height it's useless. In short tailor your results to your furniture and body dimensions.

The G15 is now $500, I expect that is being determined buy lack of new models, scarcity and the opportunity for gouging the customers who want them. I can't wait for the RGB thing to become passe so manufacturers start thinking of ways to actually innovate and their products with with new useful features.
 
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a well designed desk will have KB frawer with built in wrist rest.
I'll go along with the keyboard tray or drawer, but not rest. That's an individual preference thing. If you keyboard has a built in wrist rest, do you want a second that may get in the way?
 
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I am very disappointed that these are now proced outside the realm of affordability. I;d buy a 2080 Ti before Id buy a $500 KB. I have some to rely on the LCD so much over the years. Only downside was, they won't survive the dishwasher like my older ones did. I keep hoping case manufacturers start including LCDs visible thru the side panel or where 5.25 bays used to go.

Ergonomics is a package and it's not a one size fits all thing ... a well designed desk will have KB frawer with built in wrist rest. I have a foam padded wrist rest for my mouse, but my son who is taller rotates the pad when he uses the puter so that it's on the far side because with his height it's useless. In short tailor your results to your furniture and body dimensions.

The G15 is now $500, I expect that is being determined buy lack of new models, scarcity and the opportunity for gouging the customers who want them. I can't wait for the RGB thing to become passe so manufacturers start thinking of ways to actually innovate and their products with with new useful features.
Light up keys are useful so you can see the keys when your room is not fully lit, but RGB is a fancy. I would not buy a $500 keyboard either, but there are some Fidiots who truly believe they are better than a good quality "normal" keyboard. Imo they are just twats.
 
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I am very disappointed that these are now proced outside the realm of affordability. I;d buy a 2080 Ti before Id buy a $500 KB. I have some to rely on the LCD so much over the years. Only downside was, they won't survive the dishwasher like my older ones did. I keep hoping case manufacturers start including LCDs visible thru the side panel or where 5.25 bays used to go.

Ergonomics is a package and it's not a one size fits all thing ... a well designed desk will have KB frawer with built in wrist rest. I have a foam padded wrist rest for my mouse, but my son who is taller rotates the pad when he uses the puter so that it's on the far side because with his height it's useless. In short tailor your results to your furniture and body dimensions.

The G15 is now $500, I expect that is being determined buy lack of new models, scarcity and the opportunity for gouging the customers who want them. I can't wait for the RGB thing to become passe so manufacturers start thinking of ways to actually innovate and their products with with new useful features.
Why is the G15 that much now?

i will be selling mine soon for probably an 1/8 of that price. and its still in very good condition.except the feet underneath have snapped off.
 
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I'll go along with the keyboard tray or drawer, but not rest. That's an individual preference thing. If you keyboard has a built in wrist rest, do you want a second that may get in the way?
No... that would be redundant ... the one on the draw doesn't come off and need to be reassembled and wayyyyy more comfy than anything ever attached to or supplementing a KB ... and in perfect alignment with the matching chair's elbow rests.


Light up keys are useful so you can see the keys when your room is not fully lit, but RGB is a fancy. I would not buy a $500 keyboard either, but there are some Fidiots who truly believe they are better than a good quality "normal" keyboard. Imo they are just twats.
My G15 prolly does RGB, never thought to look how to configure it. It lights up the keys (white), and it displays MSI Afterburner output (or other utilities I might choose, many are game specific) in theLCD, so it does what I want

Why is the G15 that much now?

i will be selling mine soon for probably an 1/8 of that price. and its still in very good condition.except the feet underneath have snapped off.
It's out of production.
 
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and wayyyyy more comfy than anything ever attached to or supplementing a KB
Not even. And you are trying to impose your opinion on everyone else! And you are assuming built in rests are the same - also not even. And check out the wrist pad I linked to in post #9 above. Can't get any more "comfy" than that and still provide excellent support - IMO.

Plus many keyboards do not have a straight or flat front edges. No telling if a fixed and built in desk wrist rest will meet up flush with those keyboards but that gel pad is flexible.
and in perfect alignment with the matching chair's elbow rests.
LOL That's funny. So you assume all chairs sit at the same height as all keyboard trays or desktops? LOL.

Of course it is in perfect alignment with the chair's elbow rests IF the chair's height just happens to match the keyboard height. But if you are 6'6" or 4'8" and you adjust your chair to feel right, there's no telling where the arm rests will come in.
 
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this is my current setup guys.
its pretty much how i sit at a 10-11 o'clock angle.feet on the pouffe or on the desk....with a beer usually of course.
a bit too much rgb maybe for some i have decided to get this keyboard which i think will complete the 'look'....for now.

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this is my current setup guys.
its pretty much how i sit at a 10-11 o'clock angle.feet on the pouffe or on the desk....with a beer usually of course.
a bit too much rgb maybe for some i have decided to get this keyboard which i think will complete the 'look'....for now.

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That is a RGB setup that looks good.
 
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The plants are a nice touch! ;)
 
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