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All I learned over the years is that you need good call quality and good battery life. You don't need to spend €800 to get that nowadays. I'm happy with my OnePlus 7 software has no issues, no slowdown whatsoever and I heard good things about their Nord series which targets the €400 price point.
 
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I would also give a suggestion to the Pixel line of phones, as well as moto and oneplus. Depending on your needs there is a good choice in most price ranges. Though I still miss the days with my old Nexus 6P, before they become Pixels. Never been as happy with a phone as that one. Had samsung and xiaomi after that, both good phones with good hardware but the software is horrendous. You have to fight with it not to kill your apps every 5 seconds. I have a mi 10t pro now which has all the hardware I could want but the software... oh boy. MIUI is terrible, horrible and down right useless. You have to threaten it with a rusty chainsaw to make sure your apps correctly run in the background to keep receiving notifications and the like.

The fairphone can be worth a gander as well, i have not looked in too it all that much but I like the thought. And it's not that many other phones which have a easy storefront to buy spare parts for either, which is neat. I like the idea.
 

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Samsung became extremely overpriced in the last few years, not to mention the whole Exynos/Snapdragon issue.
Samsung S models are indeed expensive, but they usually have some decent upgrade deals that many other brands don't. Last time I checked, the S22 cost about half the price when trading in an S8 and getting an extra rebate at the same time.

It makes no sense buying S models or Iphones at MSRP, but I guess it's not that well known, which in turn makes it look like an expensive choice..
Pixel 6 is the only one that seems somewhat of a good deal but as some have pointed out they've always been plagued by pretty nasty bugs which I always found strange since you know, they wrote the operating system themselves.
I haven't been following that model, are the bugs still there? Yeah, it's the weirdest thing, not even Google does it right.

You have to fight with it not to kill your apps every 5 seconds.
That's some weird bug, never experienced that myself. How exactly are you fighting that if the settings doesn't work to begin with?
 
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That's some weird bug, never experienced that myself. How exactly are you fighting that if the settings doesn't work to begin with?
This is not a bug, this is intended behavior caused by the MIUI optimization and it is like this on all devices running memeui. It resets battery preferences on updates and reboots because of it, which means you constantly have to go in, double check things and set them again. Some settings can be set as a prod via a terminal. Most things can be solved by disabling MIUI optimization but that breaks quite a lot of the interface instead.
If you never experienced this, you have never used neither Samsung or Xiaomi devices: https://dontkillmyapp.com/
Even with everything set the way one would expect things to be able to properly run in the background, they simply don't. I don't know how many times it ends up taking hours, days even, to get a notification in some applications because it was forced in to sleep.
 
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If you never experienced this, you have never used neither Samsung or Xiaomi devices: https://dontkillmyapp.com/
Thanks, I did not know that, despite having a Samsung for five years. I guess it's s newer issue.

On a different topic, people here point out two brands as expensive, when in reality most brands have $xxxx models, like Honor Magic4 Ultimate, Xiaomi
Mi 11 Ultra, Huawei P50, and finally the Sony Xperia Pro-I that's more expensive than any other phone mentioned in this thread.
 
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Hi guys and gals. I'm here asking you for you 2 cent's on which phone to choose. In 2018 I bought a Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus (or Note 5 in some parts of the world). It has started to show it's age and to stutter and slow down. I'm thinking of buying a new phone but dont know which phones to look at. I have been looking at Xiaomi 12X and a handful of Samsung phones from S10 ->S20 and even the Note 10 or 20 series. Dont know what to choose. My budget is max 800 euros.
Personally, I’d just get an iPhone SE and use it for the next 7 years.
 

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They say "never settle", but you have to settle for no support/service the minute you buy one of their phones. Unless you're a fan of shipping to China.
 
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They say "never settle", but you have to settle for no support/service the minute you buy one of their phones. Unless you're a fan of shipping to China.
had one+ 1 for six years. never needed to look for support/service.
my current 8 hasnt needed service so far either ( ~2 years )
even in case service is needed i dont think for 7-9 days they'll send it to china fix it and ship it back https://www.oneplus.com/pt/support/repair
iirc about the time they launched 2 they've opened support centers across EU. i think NA support centers were opened prior to that (not 100% sure thou).
 

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had one+ 1 for six years. never needed to look for support/service.
my current 8 hasnt needed service so far either ( ~2 years )
So we have a sample of 2, we don't need to worry about service.
Most people won't need service, of course. But for the few that do, it'd better be there. Fwiw, in the few instances I needed that, the repairs were so expensive, I just bought a new phone instead.
even in case service is needed i dont think for 7-9 days they'll send it to china fix it and ship it back https://www.oneplus.com/pt/support/repair
iirc about the time they launched 2 they've opened support centers across EU. i think NA support centers were opened prior to that (not 100% sure thou).
Since they don't disclose where their service centers are, I'm going to assume those 7-9 days are just a copy/paste of their best case scenario.

NB I have nothing against OnePlus (other than them releasing phones in 2022 running Android 11), it's just that I've never seen a service center with a OnePlus logo at the door.
 
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So we have a sample of 2, we don't need to worry about service.
Most people won't need service, of course. But for the few that do, it'd better be there. Fwiw, in the few instances I needed that, the repairs were so expensive, I just bought a new phone instead.

Since they don't disclose where their service centers are, I'm going to assume those 7-9 days are just a copy/paste of their best case scenario.

NB I have nothing against OnePlus (other than them releasing phones in 2022 running Android 11), it's just that I've never seen a service center with a OnePlus logo at the door.
Sample of 3. No issues since purchase with my OP7. Plus at least you can order replacement parts for your phone directly from them even after the warranty has expired.

Since you loathe Samsung, don't want anything customized and it needs to have local service centers I wonder what's your pick then?
 
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Samsung became extremely overpriced in the last few years, not to mention the whole Exynos/Snapdragon issue. Same with Google phones in my opinion, Pixel 6 is the only one that seems somewhat of a good deal but as some have pointed out they've always been plagued by pretty nasty bugs which I always found strange since you know, they wrote the operating system themselves.

Apart from the truly horrendous camera strip on the PX6
 

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Since you loathe Samsung, don't want anything customized and it needs to have local service centers I wonder what's your pick then?
Like I said, slim pickings :(
I used to buy Motorola, but they started sucking hard with updates. I'm now running a Nokia. I don't know what I'll get next, Nokia started using really crappy chipsets on their cheaper models.
 
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For roughly 2/3rds of that budget you could get a Fairphone. It has android vanilla, which I used in my Mi A2 for the longest and worked fine until it stopped being updated and I felt lazy to migrate to Linage.
And if all goes to plan, simple upgrades mean it will be even longer before I get a new phone.
 
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Pixel 4a as a daily here. No issues, and will get another when this shows its age. Plus Google's phone plan is cheap as hell, well here in the US anyways.

4a gang checking in.

I only really use my phone for texting, PLEX, and some light gaming (PUBG/Wild Rift) and it works fine for that.
 
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For roughly 2/3rds of that budget you could get a Fairphone. It has android vanilla, which I used in my Mi A2 for the longest and worked fine until it stopped being updated and I felt lazy to migrate to Linage.
And if all goes to plan, simple upgrades mean it will be even longer before I get a new phone.
Still comes with Android 11 in 2022. But yeah, definitely an option.
 

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Pixel 4XL is what I currently run, but I've had a Samsung S10+ too.

I would recommend either an S22 Ultra, a Pixel 5, or an Iphone Pro 13.

Otherwise checkout https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Best-Smartphones.101858.0.html

Don't get a pixel 6 as exynos sucks, don't get anything chinese like huawei/oppo etc as they're malware and some can't even access play store.

Iphone is probably the best phone out there insane battery life, but android is very nice to use.
 

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Like I said, slim pickings :(
I used to buy Motorola, but they started sucking hard with updates. I'm now running a Nokia. I don't know what I'll get next, Nokia started using really crappy chipsets on their cheaper models.
Nokia and Motorola ... are you a time traveler from year 2000 ? :D
 
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Don't get a pixel 6 as exynos sucks

Pixel 6 doesn't have exynos, it has that new google tensor SoC which seems to be a massive power hog, Pixel 6 has a huge battery and yet sort of mediocre battery life. You'd think their phones would be the most optimized android phones on the market now that they make both the software and hardware like Apple but they're clearly not.
 

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Pixel 6 doesn't have exynos, it has that new google tensor SoC which seems to be a massive power hog, Pixel 6 has a huge battery and yet sort of mediocre battery life. You'd think their phones would be the most optimized android phones on the market now that they make both the software and hardware like Apple but they're clearly not.
Do some research on what the google tensor soc is before correcting me.
 
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Don't get a pixel 6 as exynos sucks, don't get anything chinese like huawei/oppo etc as they're malware and some can't even access play store.
Sorry but, get lost!! Everything is made in China and everything has the potential to have malware embedded my the manufacturer your spouting crap without a clue.
 

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Sorry but, get lost!! Everything is made in China and everything has the potential to have malware embedded my the manufacturer your spouting crap without a clue.
Wrong
 
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Nokia 3310. Forget the frills and have a PHONE again.
 
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Pixel 4XL is what I currently run, but I've had a Samsung S10+ too.

I would recommend either an S22 Ultra, a Pixel 5, or an Iphone Pro 13.

Otherwise checkout https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Best-Smartphones.101858.0.html

Don't get a pixel 6 as exynos sucks, don't get anything chinese like huawei/oppo etc as they're malware and some can't even access play store.

Iphone is probably the best phone out there insane battery life, but android is very nice to use.
Please read the forum guidelines and TPU's rules before posting crap again.
 
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Do some research on what the google tensor soc is before correcting me.

If you're suggesting it is literally an exynos chip then I am absolutely correcting you.
 
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