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Okay so a buddy of mine has an old-ish AMD rig that he has until he gets work and blah blah. I've been supplying parts to him so he has something to use. As far as I remember it has a

No clue on the processor, trying to find that out.
GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2P
G.SKILL NS 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)
HD5870
Raidmax 530w (my old one, still works)
Some old Seagate HDD but it's sata.

Now I got him a 2x4 kit of G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
and suddenly it won't post. The fans with the GPU were maxed out when he put the new stuff in, and when it takes the GPU out the fans are quiet but still no post. This is with new and old ram.

I'm having him try bare minimum with just one stick, CPU/board power, and no GPU (iGPU) to get some kind of post, but it's still not posting and it's taking forever to shut down if it shuts off at all. I'm thinking the board doesn't like 1600mhz but it still doesn't work with the 1333mhz.

The only thing I can think of is that his family tampered with his desktop again because it worked before he left for his grandparent's for three days and he leaves it off when he goes places. He didn't think to test it when he came home to put the new ram in.

I'm at a loss guys.
 
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CMOS reset?
Took GPU out, took out battery for a minute while hitting power button, left GPU out and plugged into board via DVI, still no post, fans are normal.
 

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This could be that the sticks isn't compatible with ur board, I have seen this before but only in computers fra Dell, HP, Lenovo and so on.

Not with a custom build system.
 
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It supports "1333 MHz (OC)". 1600 MHz might be a stretch for the board.
 

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It supports "1333 MHz (OC)". 1600 MHz might be a stretch for the board.
Wouldn't it just drop the ram to 1333mhz automatically?
 
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It should automatically drop down, it's the boards job to do so.

Should and will are sometimes different things though. However, I'd expect a gigabyte board to do so... they usually behave pretty good with me regarding ram.
 
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Works with old ram doesn't work with new ram sounds like the new ram is not compatible. Maybe try checking the QVL to avoid headaches in the future?
 
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Yeah, perhaps the ram doesn't like to be clocked down by the boards command. That would set the board at 1333Mhz which can't boot the ram.
Have you tried 1066 and 800 Mhz?
Or can't you approach the bios at all? No spare ram stick that works so you can configure the bios?
If the old ram suddenly doesn't work anymore, and the new ram isn't either, I suspect something else is going on. That board is an amd one, but can't say if it's bad or not.

But I saw an amd board go bad, constantly refused to boot the system. Tried psu, ram and other videocard etc etc. Nothing worked, but luckily I had a spare amd board. So switched everything and it booted fine. The old board was too old and most likely suffered some degenaration on certain components.
Now that wont mean your board suffers something similar, but if it's realy old, it could just be going broken.
 

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Just to clarify, the system's not working with either the new RAM or the RAM that was in it?
New AND old ram don't work now.

Also we don't have 1066 or 800 that we know of, he might have to scrap his brother's rig for the ram to see if his might work
 
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Most likely the reset cmos set the ram at defaults speed which will probably be 800Mhz (2x 400).
On the other hand, he could test the ram in his brothers rig also.
Anyway, after post the system should halt and provide bios through F1 or similar key due to a boot error message. Then in bios you can alter settings so the next boot the error wont occur.
I had this several times with overclocks of cpu and ram, which caused the system to halt.

If the system worked before with the old ram, chances are something is broken, as you already figured. The new ram doesn't work either so I'm guessing it's something else.

On a side note, they can ruin your entire desktop, make your windows unbootable, but that will never cause a system not to post and enter bios.
 
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My suggestion:
Boot with old RAM...set timings and speed compatible with new RAM..boot to Windows..shut down..
Change RAM to new RAM
Try that..I'd do 1 stick 1st..
look up the spd for new RAM..set primaries + trfc+ 1333. (while running old RAM)
 

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My suggestion:
Boot with old RAM...set timings and speed compatible with new RAM..boot to Windows..shut down..
Change RAM to new RAM
Try that..I'd do 1 stick 1st..
look up the spd for new RAM..set primaries + trfc+ 1333. (while running old RAM)
Did you not read where it won't post at all?



To the others that i can't quote because mobile, I'll see what i can update you guys on when i get home. It's not easy for me since I'm at work and his keyboard and mouse doesn't work when it boots.
 
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Did you not read where it won't post at all?
...I'm at work and his keyboard and mouse doesn't work when it boots.
Kinda contradictory there but no mouse and keyboard indicates a BIOS issue.
 
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New AND old ram don't work now.

Also we don't have 1066 or 800 that we know of, he might have to scrap his brother's rig for the ram to see if his might work
^Yeah i did not see that.
Sounds like serious issues.
 

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Kinda contradictory there but no mouse and keyboard indicates a BIOS issue.
So it would need a flash wouldn't it? Or a new bios chip?
 
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I'd hold off from doing that, and leave it as a last resort.
Has he tried safe mode to confirm it isn't a driver or software issue?
 
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So it would need a flash wouldn't it? Or a new bios chip?
I think your best bet at this point is trying to RMA the motherboard. (after you've done the old remove everything and try to boot it clean) You're not going to be able to flash the BIOS if you can't get it to boot at all. Don't tell them what happened with the RAM. Just - "It won't boot."
 

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He can't get into safe mode but I'll see if he did it correctly. He also can't RMA since it's second hand off of a forum member.
 
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He also can't RMA since it's second hand off of a forum member.
NOT true. MSI, ASUS and Gigabyte all cover their motherboards for 3 years from date of manufacture or purchase. Proof of purchase is not required.
 

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NOT true. MSI, ASUS and Gigabyte all cover their motherboards for 3 years from date of manufacture or purchase. Proof of purchase is not required.
They just need the s/n right?
 
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