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my mousemate recently upgraded to 2GB, but her system is the following:

1x160GB samsung IDE hard drive
2x1GB (was 2x512MB) DDR400
ATI x1650pro (DDR2)
asrock 4core (the AGP and PCI-E, DDR and DDR2 board)
P4 3.2GHz presler

her system runs with full aero, dual screening 2x 17" flat CRT's at 1280x1024.
She games, she watches HD movies, she runs winamp with visualisations 24/7.
The only reason she went 2GB was the occasional HDD lag in the witcher and crysis.
 

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I'm on vista as well and it runs reasonably well. In fact Crysis runs better in 64bit vista than 64bit XP :laugh: go figure.

Running 4 GB of RAM and an Athlon X2 5600+.

Currently I'm running 2 partitions, 1 for work and 1 for gaming. The gaming partition starts up like a dream. The work partition has more background processes so it takes a while to get going.

I'm assuming this is a start up issue? I say this because when I had 2GB of ram Vista ran reasonably well once it was completely started up. Programs launched just as fast as XP and games didn't feel any slower. Even though I didn't run any benchmarks, if I can't see it with my eyes then what's the point of higher FPS?

I'd recommend going into MSconfig and disabling everything you don't need. There's a lot of clunkers in there than you don't need at start up. I was always astounded at the startup time of Ubuntu... until I started adding programs to launch at startup. Startup programs destroyed my system.
 
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well gaming is fine, but window switching, application loading, that stuff is slow
 

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stupidbiznitch9: If you have a SATAII HDD, use AHCI, it's way faster than IDE mode. Disable indexing, superfetch and extra services (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=24912). Upgrade to SP1, does wonders for HDD transfers. Before it 1GB file to another HD was something like 60MB/s->30MB/s, now it's 190MB/s->55MB/s. Burst is 190MB/s and 60MB/s read average for my HDDs in AHCI.

If it's still slow after all that you could also make swap file set size on another HDD/partition & OC your processor (get 1GB more ram, 2GB if you want to keep dual channel, but lose ½-1GB due to 32bit restriction).

And btw, all that reinstall+format talk is useless. I run my XP installation nearly 3 years without any reinstalls or formats just fine hardly ever BSOD and no it wasn't sluggish. You just have to maintain the system / fix problems. Hope it helps :)
 
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this is a 64-bit os, and i only have an IDE hard drive....
 

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this is a 64-bit os, and i only have an IDE hard drive....
K, then AHCI mode is out of question but you can still do the other stuff. Disabling superfetch stops the memory hog usage, that Vista does on startup and if you start a program that isn't cached it will have to dumb the memory first and then start it.

Easy to tell if it's on, you should only have couple megabytes of mem free. Without it Vista uses something like 800-900MB. Some like it, I don't as it produces constant HDD usage on startup.

Windows defender also has automatic scans scheduled, they start when computer is idle, but can be disabled. Might defrag also when idle, haven't found out yet where that is hidden. 64bit would allow the full usage of 4GB mem but that should be the problem here. I'd suggest that you try this dual core widget to see your processor & mem usage: http://widgetfront.com/vista-sidebar-gadgets/multi-meter-dual-core/

That comes also handy to determine hat Aero is actually less resource hog that Vista basic style. CPU wise that is. Basic theme uses about 1.6megs of mem and Aero 55MB (dwm.exe). But if you take a windows and wiggle it around basic theme goes 2x70% processor load on my computer and Aero only 22% other core and 3% other.

So if you want to save memory or CPU cycles adjust accordingly.
 
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Im using 8gbs of ram and i can see at idle vista takes up to 1.5 gigs, and in my other machine that has 2gb with xp only takes 200mb at idle.
 

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#33
Well you will be met with some limitations of older technology like IDE...which is still decent, but cannot keep up with SATA and will probably hinder your Vista speed somewhat...along with DDR 667, while decent timings, is more in the low-mid-range DDR2...800-1066+ would help there...

Can't expect Windows 2K speed from Vista with your kind of rig, it's not gonna happen. Maybe overclocking could help some, a good SATA II drive (seagate 7200.11's with perpendicular tech are pretty damn good), would help out.

I've ran Vista on a P4 rig with 2gb of RAM without too much issue, it was not nearly as snappy as my rig (see sys specs), took longer to do just about anything that would relate to hardware speed, which is a lot, especially in Vista. I just went Vista x64 a little over a week ago, and man for me it's fast...I'm enjoying Vista w/SP1 too...faster, snappier, does a great job.

Sorry to hear you're having issues, but to an extent I think a lot of it is you having too high of expectations for what you're providing the OS to run on, but that is my opinion.

Also, another note, I know everyone else has hounded ya...but a fresh install WILL help, how could it not? Fresh install, fresh drivers, no registry or excessive junk file buildup (that can even be missed by programs like CCLeaner, which is a great program), it just makes sense, especially if swapping mobo's. Again, that's just my opinion though.

I hope you get Vista running how you like it...but if not, XP SP3 is just around the corner, and the RC2 I tried was doing pretty good things at least in my experience.

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Yep, HDD will be the botteneck always and buying a fast sata drive would help with that a bit. Keep the old for storage & games, if you don't mind slower loading times. But the start of HDD (outer edge of the disk) is always fastest so first partition should be swap partition then Windows/application partition and rest for rest. If you want to maximize the speed of what you got.

Ideally if you get a new HDD you make a 4,5GB partion for it and place 4GB swap file there (Windows complaints if there isn't 10% space free). Then cut the rest of the space in half and make a partition for your games/programs that need fast startup and use last partition for storage. Keep Windows in the old HDD and use rest of the space of it as you wish.

Swap and Windows shouldn't be on same partition/disk for best performance. Above is what I use, although my swap partition is only 1GB, because I used that in XP with 2GB mem. Didn't have space to store all my junk to re-partition, so it'll have to do with another 3GB swap on another HDD.

edit: forgot, after that you can change drive letters in disk management, S: is a nice drive letter for swap partition or P: if yo like Page File term better. Although you have to change swap partition drive letter before it has the swap. Or leave them be if you don't mind the order of the drives.
 
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Vista runs wicked for me.
There are a whole bunch of things you need to do, including disabling services, enabling cache, disabling crap in your bios like serial ports and all that.
Turn on 32bit disk access, ect, ect.

Dont forget gpedit.msc, dcomcfg.exe.
disable dcom.

ect
ect
ect
 

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K, then AHCI mode is out of question but you can still do the other stuff. Disabling superfetch stops the memory hog usage, that Vista does on startup and if you start a program that isn't cached it will have to dumb the memory first and then start it.

Easy to tell if it's on, you should only have couple megabytes of mem free. Without it Vista uses something like 800-900MB. Some like it, I don't as it produces constant HDD usage on startup.

Windows defender also has automatic scans scheduled, they start when computer is idle, but can be disabled. Might defrag also when idle, haven't found out yet where that is hidden. 64bit would allow the full usage of 4GB mem but that should be the problem here. I'd suggest that you try this dual core widget to see your processor & mem usage: http://widgetfront.com/vista-sidebar-gadgets/multi-meter-dual-core/

That comes also handy to determine hat Aero is actually less resource hog that Vista basic style. CPU wise that is. Basic theme uses about 1.6megs of mem and Aero 55MB (dwm.exe). But if you take a windows and wiggle it around basic theme goes 2x70% processor load on my computer and Aero only 22% other core and 3% other.

So if you want to save memory or CPU cycles adjust accordingly.
If he wants programs to load faster when he opens them, disabling Superfetch is the last thing he wants to do.

But above all, I think he needs to do a CLEAN INSTALL.
 
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#38
well 2gig of mem was great for xp but about average for vista
adding more memory really helped when i went from 2gigs to 3gigs
multitasking was allot better

edit: and since you have 64bit you might as well get 4gigs : )
Because of the way memory is addressed in 64bit you need 8gigs to fully take advantage of it. 32bit applications take close to double the memory to operate in 64bit. 64bit is for hardcore gamers, workstations, and power users.

Use 32bit vista and it will run alot faster. You don't have enough ram for 64bit vista + multitasking.
 
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Im using 8gbs of ram and i can see at idle vista takes up to 1.5 gigs, and in my other machine that has 2gb with xp only takes 200mb at idle.
It depends on how much background processes you have running.
 
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Because of the way memory is addressed in 64bit you need 8gigs to fully take advantage of it. 32bit applications take close to double the memory to operate in 64bit. 64bit is for hardcore gamers, workstations, and power users.

Use 32bit vista and it will run alot faster. You don't have enough ram for 64bit vista + multitasking.
I have 4G and my 64bit Vista runs fine. The 32bit apps take more memory than usual, but far from double. I'm now on hunt for native 64bit software, but it looks like te developers are holding back for some reson.
 
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Does your hard drive constantly run when switching apps? If so, then you'll need more RAM for your system. What happens is Vista likes to load all kinds of stuff into your RAM (thanks to superfetch, windows search, and ready boost and a few others) and hogs up your memory. Then when you run 1 program you are fine, but when you run the second one then it runs out of RAM and kicks your current program to virtual memory(your hard drive) and it can take forever some times. so each time you switch programs it dumps the current one off onto the hard drive. it is actually better to quit each program before starting a new one.

also a new hard drive will help a ton also. the newer SATA drives will run twices as fast as the older IDE drives. My IDE ran approximately 45MB/s and my new Seagate perpendicular 2 drive runs around 90MB/s and most other SATA drives run over 60MS/s except those new green drives that save power.

I agree with everyone on the complete reinstall of Vista. it can wreak havoc on an upgrade and slow you down a lot and give you problems.

Also, make sure you go to the manufacturer website and get the latest drivers as they can speed you up. Vista is still being updated on a daily basis and latest drivers can make a huge difference. if you can list all the make and model numbers of all your parts then maybe we can offer better advice. The more information we get from you then the better we are able to help you. It can be hard to try and guess what you need with only partial information. I'd hate to see you buy things you may not need.

Hope this helps
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#42
Because of the way memory is addressed in 64bit you need 8gigs to fully take advantage of it. 32bit applications take close to double the memory to operate in 64bit. 64bit is for hardcore gamers, workstations, and power users.

Use 32bit vista and it will run alot faster. You don't have enough ram for 64bit vista + multitasking.
the amount used is less than 5% more. nowhere near double.
 

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If he wants programs to load faster when he opens them, disabling Superfetch is the last thing he wants to do.
Obviously it's not working for him, hence this topic ;) But there is a learning process to the superfetch, so it could get better in time.
 
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I will try a fresh re-install and get back to you all.....thnks!!
 
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I have 4G and my 64bit Vista runs fine. The 32bit apps take more memory than usual, but far from double. I'm now on hunt for native 64bit software, but it looks like te developers are holding back for some reson.
4gbs is fine but not for massive multitasking. Folding plus torrent plus crysis etc.
 
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#47
using 8GB of ram will increase the amount of ram vista uses due to superfetch cranking things up, but it doesnt mean apps will all use double the amount of ram... (page 5 of that article mentions this)

i am reading the article now, but it would be nice to know the point you're trying tomake.



toms said:
We can also see that the 64 bit versions take up quite a bit more memory as well. Again, the explanation is very simple: all of the variables are no longer only 32 bits long, but 64 bits instead. Typically, this makes applications between 20% and 40% larger, which consequently results in a higher memory footprint as well. File formats such as music files or videos are not affected by this.

The upshot is that it doesn't make sense to install a 64 bit version of Vista in order to better utilize 4 GB of memory simply because the 32 bit version would only recognize 3.5 GB. The problem is that while it is true that you would "gain" the missing memory, you would also immediately lose it to the system due to the 64 bit version's larger memory footprint. Thus, using a 64 bit version really only makes sense with larger memory sizes.
this is what you meant and i see your misconception. What they're saying is 64 bit apps are larger, not the memory usage. The apps are larger and access more data, therefore they use more ram - if EVERYTHING used more ram, their comment about music and videos wouldnt make sense.

64 bit apps are larger, therefore needing more ram. 32 bit apps are the same size, so 32 bit apps are the ones that only get a small increase in mem usage. Seriously, i tested this with games at least when making the switch - checked task manager on a few games when i formatted and went x64, and the memory usage only changed 100-200MB at most (we're talking 1.5-2GB total use, btw)

One reason i argue with toms logic is that with vista, x64 is free - the codes work on both versions. its not like you're outlaying $300 here to go x64, you just have to format. x64 seems a lot more stable due to games hitting a limit and crashing under x86, go check out the issues people had/have with stalker and supreme commander crashing at around 1.2GB-1.5GB of ram usage.

page 7 said:
Another issue with 32 bit applications is the maximum memory chunk each process is able to address, namely 2 GB. This limit can be adjusted to 4 GB using a few special settings.
and thus the crashes, 1.5GB + system ram + video card ram often equals over 4GB. a lot of games/apps are now adjusted to fix this as they mention on that page, but not all.
 
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Superfetch is there to speed things up. :)

So just add more ram and everything is fine. 8GB is ideal. Thats what I have in my gaming rig thats vista x64.
 
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this is my highjackthis repsort; before i reinstall, i see a bunch of wierd "missing files"

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 4:09:23 PM, on 4/3/2008
Platform: Windows Vista (WinNT 6.00.1904)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16609)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\LimeWire\LimeWire.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Grisoft\AVG7\avgwb.dat
C:\Users\Chris\Desktop\HiJackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyOverride = *.local
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe
O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Spybot-S&D IE Protection - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~2\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: NCO 2.0 IE BHO - {602ADB0E-4AFF-4217-8AA1-95DAC4DFA408} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Groove GFS Browser Helper - {72853161-30C5-4D22-B7F9-0BBC1D38A37E} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~1\Office12\GRA8E1~1.DLL
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\ssv.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RemoteControl] "C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LanguageShortcut] "C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\PowerDVD\Language\Language.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [StartCCC] "C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GrooveMonitor] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office12\GrooveMonitor.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~2\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Sidebar] C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe /autoRun
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [BitTorrent DNA] "C:\Users\Chris\Program Files (x86)\DNA\btdna.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Update Machine] rBot.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [AVG7_Run] C:\PROGRA~2\Grisoft\AVG7\avgw.exe /RUNONCE
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [WindowsWelcomeCenter] rundll32.exe oobefldr.dll,ShowWelcomeCenter (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [AVG7_Run] C:\PROGRA~2\Grisoft\AVG7\avgw.exe /RUNONCE (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\Run: [AVG7_Run] C:\PROGRA~2\Grisoft\AVG7\avgw.exe /RUNONCE (User 'SYSTEM')
O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\Run: [AVG7_Run] C:\PROGRA~2\Grisoft\AVG7\avgw.exe /RUNONCE (User 'Default user')
O4 - Startup: Adobe Gamma.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~1\Office12\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Send to OneNote - {2670000A-7350-4f3c-8081-5663EE0C6C49} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~1\Office12\ONBttnIE.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: S&end to OneNote - {2670000A-7350-4f3c-8081-5663EE0C6C49} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~1\Office12\ONBttnIE.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~1\Office12\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~2\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Spybot - Search & Destroy Configuration - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~2\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O16 - DPF: {8FD07749-EFFA-48C6-947C-45A8D7BF422F} (CLVistaGenie Control) - http://www.cyberlink.com/vista/prog/CLVistaGenie.cab
O16 - DPF: {CF40ACC5-E1BB-4AFF-AC72-04C2F616BCA7} (get_atlcom Class) - http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/nos/gp.cab
O18 - Protocol: grooveLocalGWS - {88FED34C-F0CA-4636-A375-3CB6248B04CD} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~1\Office12\GR99D3~1.DLL
O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Adobe Systems - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Alg.exe,-112 (ALG) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\alg.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
O23 - Service: Ati External Event Utility - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\Ati2evxx.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~2\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~2\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Resident Shield Service (AvgCoreSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~2\Grisoft\AVG7\avgrssvc.exe
O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
O23 - Service: @dfsrres.dll,-101 (DFSR) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\DFSR.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\1050\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @comres.dll,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Cyberlink RichVideo Service(CRVS) (RichVideo) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\Shared Files\RichVideo.exe
O23 - Service: Roxio UPnP Renderer 10 - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files (x86)\Roxio\Digital Home 10\RoxioUPnPRenderer10.exe
O23 - Service: Roxio Upnp Server 10 - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files (x86)\Roxio\Digital Home 10\RoxioUpnpService10.exe
O23 - Service: LiveShare P2P Server 10 (RoxLiveShare10) - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared\10.0\SharedCOM\RoxLiveShare10.exe
O23 - Service: RoxMediaDB10 - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared\10.0\SharedCOM\RoxMediaDB10.exe
O23 - Service: Roxio Hard Drive Watcher 10 (RoxWatch10) - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared\10.0\SharedCOM\RoxWatch10.exe
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Remote Procedure Call (TPM) (RPCT) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Speech\mstinit.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: SBSD Security Center Service (SBSDWSCService) - Safer Networking Ltd. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SDWinSec.exe
O23 - Service: SessionLauncher - Unknown owner - C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Local\Temp\DX9\SessionLauncher.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\SLsvc.exe,-101 (slsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\SLsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\snmptrap.exe,-3 (SNMPTRAP) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\snmptrap.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\spoolsv.exe,-1 (Spooler) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Steam Client Service - Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Unknown owner - C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\ui0detect.exe,-101 (UI0Detect) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\UI0Detect.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vds.exe,-100 (vds) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\vds.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Viewpoint Manager Service - Viewpoint Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Viewpoint\Common\ViewpointService.exe
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\vssvc.exe,-102 (VSS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\wbengine.exe,-104 (wbengine) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbengine.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%Systemroot%\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe,-110 (wmiApSrv) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WmiApSrv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%ProgramFiles%\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe,-101 (WMPNetworkSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe (file missing)

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End of file - 10069 bytes




(EDIT: how do i fix or replace those "missing files"?
 

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#50
if thats on SP1, i saw the same thing recently with a system i updated.

I think the files are moved/renamed when udpated to SP1 and hijack this is picking up leftover traces.