New RAM New Mobo VISTA IS STILL SLOW!!!

Squirrely · Apr 4, 2008

Vista x64 with 8gb of ram is quite funny as it still directs programs to the page file, even if it has 6.5gb-ish worth of free ram! :laugh:

I've seen a few people put set their page file at the lowest (along with Tom's article), just so they can force apps to use the full 8gb. They tried to fill the ram with many programs, Adobe CS3, Maya, and other programs, still no crashes. Grant it, those are 32 bit applications, so they can only address a maximum 4gb-ish worth of ram, but still.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/15/vista_workshop/index.html

Its a bit risky, but until more programs are 64bit, 8gb+ Vista x64 users can set their page file very low. This forces Windows to use its ram, and there's also a nice little performance increase as well when you do this.

Mussels · Apr 4, 2008

Squirrely said:
Vista x64 with 8gb of ram is quite funny as it still directs programs to the page file, even if it has 6.5gb-ish worth of free ram!

I've seen a few people put set their page file at the lowest (along with Tom's article), just so they can force apps to use the full 8gb. They tried to fill the ram with many programs, Adobe CS3, Maya, and other programs, still no crashes. Grant it, those are 32 bit applications, so they can only address a maximum 4gb-ish worth of ram, but still.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/15/vista_workshop/index.html

Its a bit risky, but until more programs are 64bit, 8gb+ Vista x64 users can set their page file very low. This forces Windows to use its ram, and there's also a nice little performance increase as well when you do this.

i'm not opposed to that so long as people realise 'low' doesnt mean 'off'
some apps are just dumb, and use the page file by default to optimise for low mem systems (older photoshops did this)
More or less, keep it over 256MB for the crap programs, and raise it if you get suspicious errors. i use a 2GB page file, but thats just habit really.

CrackerJack · Apr 4, 2008

runs fine on my system, have you tried installing the sp1 pack?

Technofuzz · Apr 8, 2008

i haven't installed the SP1, and FYI its not my harddrive as it scored a 5.4 out of 5.9....

DaedalusHelios · Apr 8, 2008

stupidbiznitch9 said:
i haven't installed the SP1, and FYI its not my harddrive as it scored a 5.4 out of 5.9....

Run Prime95 Torture test to see if your CPU or RAM is failing. Its possible.

Technofuzz · Apr 8, 2008

i seriously think its my graphics card...i think it is half shot..LOL....will run some tests.

Technofuzz · Apr 8, 2008

but it can't be, i play FEAR with it... and that runs fine 0.0

DaedalusHelios · Apr 8, 2008

You probably have viruses in the boot sector. lulz

Technofuzz · Apr 10, 2008

O.O that would be DEATH! O.O

DaedalusHelios · Apr 10, 2008

Use dban to clear it all out..... it takes like six hours but there is absolutely nothing left when its done..... it nukes all the info :respect:

(zeros everything out!)

alexp999 · Apr 10, 2008

6 hrs

. I suppose it does depend on what HDD you have and the capacity but it only takes dban 30-40mins to wipe my 160gb raid setup.
But yeah, whenever I'm doing a fresh install I always dban first.

DaedalusHelios · Apr 10, 2008

alexp999 said:
6 hrs . I suppose it does depend on what HDD you have and the capacity but it only takes dban 30-40mins to wipe my 160gb raid setup.
But yeah, whenever I'm doing a fresh install I always dban first.

I had a massive fileserver I used it on at work. It was around 8TB of data backed up on Harddrives though. It was Raid aswell.

alexp999 · Apr 10, 2008

8TB

. LOL! No wonder.

wiak · Apr 10, 2008

1. Turn off System Protection
2. Turn off Windows Search (in services.msc)
3. Move swap file to you secound disk
4. remove all the non need stuff from startup (in msconfig.exe)
5. install newest drivers...
6. Get a proper antivirus aka NOD32, most norton and others just slow down vista & xp
7. minimum 1GB RAM recommended (2GB prefered)
8. if that dont work try getting a new graphics card like radeon 3650/3850/3870 etc, if Aero aka shiny new interface is slow

hope this helps

Technofuzz · Apr 12, 2008

I ended up reformatting (slow\full) and threw xp pro on it, was sick of vista.....already missing the gui tho.....

.....LOL GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!

Mussels · Apr 12, 2008

stupidbiznitch9 said:
I ended up reformatting (slow\full) and threw xp pro on it, was sick of vista.....already missing the gui tho..........LOL GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!

have fun with XP.

Technofuzz · Apr 16, 2008

AAHH FRUSTRATION!!!!!!!!!!
it is still sluggish 0.0......
it should have PLENTY OF SPEED in XP -.- could it be the CRAPPY ECS mobo??

Mussels · Apr 16, 2008

and now we feel bad for blaming vista, dont we?

Yes, yes you do. (lol)

it could be anything. Make sure the hard drives are in UDMA mode, ram is running at full speed in dual channel, PCI-E slot is not stuck in 1x, and then check to make sure CPU clocks are correct. CPU-Z can tell you most of that.

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New RAM New Mobo VISTA IS STILL SLOW!!!

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