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I'll post an update once I receive it. Might take a few weeks though. Hoping I see some measurable improvements.
Just run Windows power shell and type sfc /scannow

Check again the performance after that.
 
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Just run Windows power shell and type sfc scannow

Check again the performance after that.
No integrity errors. Benchmark results are the same.
 
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No integrity errors. Benchmark results are the same.
Sfc scan doesn’t check integrity. It checks for corrupted files associated with Windows and repairs them if found
 
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Benchmark Scores do not matter, my PC is fast :)
I recently upgraded to the 5800X3D, and based on my experience I strongly recommend you give "PBO2 Tuner" a try. This is a neat little freeware app that allows you to apply negative Curve Optimizer (CO) settings to the CPU.

In my case, and as also documented by someone else here -- https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/uigbv7 -- applying negative CO settings significantly reduced temps while also slightly improving performance on Cinebench 23. I suggest you start with -30 on every core, then test (OCCT is great for this) and reduce the negative numbers for any cores that throw errors. I wound up with -30 on 5 of the 8 cores, -20 on my two best cores (per Ryzen Master) and -25 on one other core.

I'm using a good 240 AIO, but my CPU temperature would still shoot right up to 83C while running CB23 multicore. After the PBO2 Tuner adjustment, it maxes out at 78C while delivering a score of 14,8XX vs 14,6XX previously. Max VCORE during the test is about 1.17V instead of 1.26V. More importantly, when running MSFS 2020 at 1440P UW (3840x1600) on high/ultra settings for extended periods, my CPU settles in the mid 70s instead of low 80s, with similarly reduced CPU voltage and no reduction in FPS.

Please note: The only downside here is that you'll need to redo the PBO2 Tuner settings every time the PC restarts or wakes from sleep. Minor PITA but worth it for now. Eventually I'm sure there will be a BIOS update that allows negative (and only negative) curve optimization or at least some form of undervolting. I was hoping MSI's AGESA1.2.0.7 might offer this, but I guess it doesn't.... so I'm sticking with 1.2.0.6c for now.
WOW, Thanks for the tip. this really works!
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By the way, you can type in -50 in the tool but it only applies the maximum of -30
 
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Benchmark Scores do not matter, my PC is fast :)
A reason I buy intel, no PBO tool are whatever tweak tool needed, it just runs as expected right away, maybe lowering the Vcore a bit and that's about it.
I am not a fanboy at all, but your comment is totally useless here. Besides that you mentioned "lowering the Vcore" that is exactly what the PBO tool does, nothing else.
 
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OK I couldn't resist and I used PBO2 Tuner. I set -30 on all cores. While the Cinebench R23 multi-core score didn't improve, at 14,064, the temps never exceeded 85 degrees Celsius.
All CPU cores never boosted above 4.3 GHz.

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OK I couldn't resist and I used PBO2 Tuner. I set -30 on all cores. While the Cinebench R23 multi-core score didn't improve, at 14,064, the temps never exceeded 85 degrees Celsius.
All CPU cores never boosted above 4.3 GHz.

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I still think, you have to little cooling on this CPU for best performance you should be able to stay under 80C or else the CPU will reduce clocks.
 
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Regarding the maximum achievable negative curve optimizer adjustment - the further possible the range of negative PBO adjustment, the looser the processor's binning is. This is inversely proportional to how "golden" the processor is, and tends to become stricter and stricter as the processor's grade increases. For the 5950X specifically, which has many cores and the most aggressive v/f curve out of the box next to any other SKU, your curve optimizer range should be extremely narrow, up to -5, really. My specific sample can do an all-core of -2, without applying scalar multiplier or extra frequency range. -3 will result in WHEA BSODs at random, even if applied just to the cores identified as the best.

OK I couldn't resist and I used PBO2 Tuner. I set -30 on all cores. While the Cinebench R23 multi-core score didn't improve, at 14,064, the temps never exceeded 85 degrees Celsius.
All CPU cores never boosted above 4.3 GHz.

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This isn't a bad all-core result, the boost rating is for a single thread and that's a 4.5 for the X3D. Your processor is operating as intended, perhaps it just isn't as fast as you hoped it would be. These are my daily settings, I am limited by EDC (the 190 A rating for the B550-E Strix is too low to allow this processor to fully flex its muscles), and I get in this benchmark around 4.35 GHz on all 32 threads. R23 uses AVX, so this isn't bad at all, if I had a better motherboard, I could maybe get 5% more out of this CPU at the same settings... aka not worth the bother. Just enough to break the 30000 points barrier and massage ego a bit, but in practice, since most applications and games don't go this hard on all threads, the performance is entirely adequate.

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I still think, you have to little cooling on this CPU for best performance you should be able to stay under 80C or else the CPU will reduce clocks.
The Thermalright FC140 Black is supposed to arrive by June 14th.
 
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Update:
Received and installed the Thermalright FC140 Black. Overall really happy with it. 36-42 degrees Celsius during very low system usage, and much quieter.
With PBO2 Tuner custom settings (see below), temperature never exceeds 80 degrees Celsius during Cinebench R23. CPU multi-core scores around 14,500-14,800.

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That’s a lot of -30s.. nice cpu :cool:
 
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With PBO2 Tuner custom settings (see below), temperature never exceeds 80 degrees Celsius during Cinebench R23. CPU multi-core scores around 14,500-14,800.
I tried PBO2 Tuner with -30 CO on all cores, leaving PPT/TDC/EDC at default. A single MT R23 run showed 4450 MHz on all cores and resulted in 15,100 points. Core voltage peaked at 1.163v, while maximum temperature reached 74c with 25c room ambient.

There's a really helpful guide here on how to make these PBO2 tweaks permanent.
 
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Does PBO2 Tuner work on any motherboard? I cant find anything in the readme file.
 
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Does PBO2 Tuner work on any motherboard? I cant find anything in the readme file.
Yet it should. However depending on your Motherboard, vendors have started releasing Beta BIOS which include the Kombo Strike utility for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which enables overclocking and Core Offset Voltage.

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