New Samsung Magician v.7 released

VulkanBros · Sep 30, 2021

Bill_Bright said:
And that's fine and that makes it easy, but you don't even need to use Magician for that. You can use the Firmware Update Utility.

The utility states it supports SSD - does that also cover NVMe?
Maybe install Samsung Magician, update the firmware and uninstall it again is easier......

Bill_Bright · Sep 30, 2021

IDK. I would suggest looking on the Samsung webpage for that specific drive. I looked up my 850 Pro and 860 Evo and that's how I found that utility.

xtreemchaos · Sep 30, 2021

i wasnt impressed with the last one, ill give it a miss and carry on using crystal disk imfo to watch my drives. thanks for the heads up bud.

FireFox · Sep 30, 2021

Bill_Bright said:
but you don't even need to use Magician for that. You can use the Firmware Update Utility.

I am aware of that but why to make things complicated like this:

1. Download the freeware UNetbootin.
2. Run the UNetbootin.
3. Select the ‘Diskimage’ in Radio Button.
4. Select the Samsung Firmware Utility ISO file in Diskimage ISO.
5. Select USB Bootable Disk in Drive.

No Sir, all i need is to run Magician and check if there is a new update, done

P4-630 · Sep 30, 2021

Each their own then...

ThrashZone · Sep 30, 2021

FireFox said:
Yeah, i have both 970 with 50GB unallocated. aren't you using 970 SSDs?

Hi,
Yes I have 2-500gb 970's 1-evo and 1-evo plus this one still my x299 for now as os on dimm_2 slot think I split it in half so lots of unallocated

I took my 970 evo out of my z490 build and went back to 2.5" sata ssd's, actually have a couple with different 10 builds because I started using linux a lot and didn't want any linux grub sludge on the 970 evo

Either way glad the free space is read correctly now with s.m. 6.3 version :clap:

Space Lynx · Sep 30, 2021

here is my 250gb 860 evo with latest magician set to Full Performance Mode

ThrashZone · Sep 30, 2021

Hi,
Yep rapid mode your memory is faster than the ssd :cool:

Space Lynx · Sep 30, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yep rapid mode your memory is faster than the ssd

I know what rapid mode is and does, just wanted to share the scores is all. I was using rapid mode even 4 years ago if I remember correctly. Never had an issue with it, on the same hand, not sure it really does anything to be honest. LOL

RJARRRPCGP · Sep 30, 2021

FireFox said:
I am aware of that but why to make things complicated like this:

1. Download the freeware UNetbootin.
2. Run the UNetbootin.

UNetbootin has a bad habit of causing my Linux media drives to have a boot error, so it looks like Rufus for me.

FireFox · Sep 30, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yes I have 2-500gb 970's 1-evo and 1-evo plus this one still my x299 for now as os on dimm_2 slot think I split it in half so lots of unallocated

I took my 970 evo out of my z490 build and went back to 2.5" sata ssd's, actually have a couple with different 10 builds because I started using linux a lot and didn't want any linux grub sludge on the 970 evo

Either way glad the free space is read correctly now with s.m. 6.3 version

I asked because the pic you posted which shows the performance optimization.

970 Evo plus

850 Evo

I assume/believe, it is because the unallocated space on both 970

lynx29 said:
i was using rapid mode even 4 years ago if I remember correctly. Never had an issue with it

I do use Rapid mode on my 850

ThrashZone · Sep 30, 2021

FireFox said:
I asked because the pic you posted which shows the performance optimization.

970 Evo plus
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850 Evo
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I assume/believe, it is because the unallocated space on both 970

I do use Rapid mode on my 850

Hi,
Yep my post #5 that was using a 850 pro 256gb on win-7 but yes standard mode only trim is activated I run it manually
I do not have magician starting with windows so it would have a tough time doing anything lol

Bill_Bright · Oct 1, 2021

FireFox said:
I am aware of that but why to make things complicated like this:

No Sir, all i need is to run Magician and check if there is a new update, done

P4-630 said:
Each their own then...

^^THIS^^

For me, I see no reason to worry about such firmware updates if my system is working fine. And for SSDs that have been on the market longer than a few months, odds are, there will be no current firmware updates. And if there is one, it most likely affects a very minor issue affecting a tiny number of users in very rare scenarios.

So I can see running Magician on a brand new SSD to make sure it is current. But after that, nope.

And for sure, for 99.9% of the users out there, I see no need to increase over-provisioning - the topic that provoked me to join this discussion in the first place.

RetiringGeek · Oct 3, 2021

Here's what Magician looks like after I upgraded from 6.3 to 7.0. Completely blank, no drive information. I'm running Win10, completely up to date. Magician 6.3 worked just fine. I thought I'd be a good citizen and report the problem to Samsung but I can find no option to do that (other than calling), even when I'm signed onto my Samsung account.

ThrashZone · Oct 3, 2021

Hi,
I just uninstall and install the new.
Repeat and reinstall the older now lol

RetiringGeek · Oct 3, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
I just uninstall and install the new.
Repeat and reinstall the older now lol

Yeah, that's what I did and am ignoring update notices. The problem is that with Win11, the old version may be short lived. I thought that the 7.0 version may have been launched because of Win11.

ThrashZone · Oct 3, 2021

RetiringGeek said:
Yeah, that's what I did and am ignoring update notices. The problem is that with Win11, the old version may be short lived. I thought that the 7.0 version may have been launched because of Win11.

Hi,
Could be I got rid of it because over provisioning was automatic and took 20gb's and wouldn't let it go until I uninstalled and reinstall 6.3 lol

RetiringGeek · Oct 3, 2021

RetiringGeek said:
Here's what Magician looks like after I upgraded from 6.3 to 7.0. Completely blank, no drive information. I'm running Win10, completely up to date. Magician 6.3 worked just fine. I thought I'd be a good citizen and report the problem to Samsung but I can find no option to do that (other than calling), even when I'm signed onto my Samsung account.

View attachment 219317

OK, I found the problem. Version 7.0 has a new executable called SamsungMagicianSVC.exe and I have Controlled Folder Access turned on. Windows 10 Security notifications of Unauthorized Access are subtle, and I missed it. After I granted access permissions, app worked fine.

DrPhibes · Oct 16, 2021

Running a Samsung 860 QVO on a Dell Precision M4800 with 16 gig of ram, M4800 i7 CPU, Win 10 pro updated a few days ago, and RAID is on (by default in Dell laptops). Using the latest Magician I can not get it to install the High Performance mode, get an install Win 10 message and after reboot is in the energy saving setting. Any clues why? Thanks in advance.

ThrashZone · Oct 16, 2021

DrPhibes said:
Running a Samsung 860 QVO on a Dell Precision M4800 with 16 gig of ram, M4800 i7 CPU, Win 10 pro updated a few days ago, and RAID is on (by default in Dell laptops). Using the latest Magician I can not get it to install the High Performance mode, get an install Win 10 message and after reboot is in the energy saving setting. Any clues why? Thanks in advance.

Hi,
QVO is really a data drive
It's a hdd replacement ssd not good for an os disk and why they are so cheap.

DrPhibes · Oct 17, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
QVO is really a data drive
It's a hdd replacement ssd not good for an os disk and why they are so cheap.

Ya, looking to buy an 870 EVO as the laptop does not have Nvme M.2 slot (has SSD mini card but still mSATA) if I can't get faster write. Should solve (mostly) the slow write problem. It is a 7yr old machine but runs great (not a heavy gamer unless you count Dnukem and Quake heavy ;-O). If I can get past this last write hurdle, should last me until Win 10 support ends. Thanks for the response.

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