New SSD; What to do?!

JrRacinFan · Apr 7, 2012

What should I know before running a new installation on an SSD to optimize it? The model in question is an OCZ Petrol 64GB.

cadaveca · Apr 7, 2012

DO nothing.

IF installing OS to it, fresh-install with no other drives connected.

If using as cache drive, jsut plug it in and use the iNTel RST to set it up.

SSD's don't really need any tweaking to work right. I d oZERO optimizzation for them, as many laptoips ship wit hSSD's only, and many guides out there are based on having multiple drives. I like to leave everything default so that I can remove the other drives without comprimising the stability of my OS. NEvermind that I have multiple SSDs, each with an OS on them.

JrRacinFan · Apr 7, 2012

AHCI? I will make sure my old drive currently housing Windows is formatted and force it to boot from SSD in bios.

cadaveca · Apr 7, 2012

Remove the other drive if installing OS. Trust me on this one. That's not something for SSD's...that's just installing windows period. AS ssoon as install is done, and you get to desktop, you cna add the other drives, no problem, if you need them for drivers or something.

And yeah, for me, AHCI is a given, SSD or not. My bad on that one!

JrRacinFan · Apr 7, 2012

cadaveca said:
you cna add the other drives, no problem, if you need them for drivers or something.

Not an issue for drivers sake as I have everything on an 8GB USB that im going install from. Anything else I should know before I fire it up? I already backed up my steamapps.

EDIT:

Also another question; Does "fancycache"-ing an SSD help?

Norton · Apr 7, 2012

Check my SSD install thread- lots of useful input from our membership :toast:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159147

cadaveca · Apr 7, 2012

Then disconnect it.

Windows will install the boot files to the lowest drive on the controller, even if you boot from different drives. It can be a real pain to figure out which port is hte lowest-numbered, so jsut pull the drive for simplicity's sake.

I don't think there's anything else..Win7 will recognize the drive as SSD and will enable TRIM no problem. Just make sure that scheduled defrag is disabled once in os.

JrRacinFan said:
Not an issue for drivers sake as I have everything on an 8GB USB that im going install from. Anything else I should know before I fire it up? I already backed up my steamapps.

EDIT:

Also another question; Does "fancycache"-ing an SSD help?

Not really with current SSDs. Older SSD's benefited from ahving data offset a bit, but that's not an issue with newer models.

JrRacinFan · Apr 7, 2012

I can't clone as all my games are install to the same partition as windows....

Alright good deal thanks guys. Off to install land, will be back with results.

jsfitz54 · Apr 7, 2012

You could do this: http://www.overclock.net/t/664738/how-to-setup-ssd-boot-drive-with-secondary-hard-disc-optimization

Norton · Apr 7, 2012

JrRacinFan said:
I can't clone as all my games are install to the same partition as windows....

Alright good deal thanks guys. Off to install land, will be back with results.

Just check the thread on the utilities used, cache issues, etc... still useful IMHO

JrRacinFan · Apr 7, 2012

jsfitz54 said:
You could do this: http://www.overclock.net/t/664738/how-to-setup-ssd-boot-drive-with-secondary-hard-disc-optimization

Should I go through with that? Seems rather logical with my setup.

jsfitz54 · Apr 7, 2012

JrRacinFan said:
Should I go through with that? Seems rather logical with my setup.

That's what I am doing.

The disadvantage is as cadaveca stated in his first post.

The only thing I would think to do different is leaving the original account setup and not to delete it. You may find it useful as an administrator account. I deleted mine.

The other thought is that it may key the drives to specific sata ports and not allow for changing location. After setting up mine I wanted to try ssd on Marvell sata3 (6gb) port and it did not want to boot. I am using the native Intel sata2 ports.

JrRacinFan · Apr 7, 2012

I'm back and done linking my Users to a second hdd! Thanks guys!

Synon Zelra · Apr 9, 2012

it's said better to close the superfetch service.

JrRacinFan · Apr 9, 2012

Synon Zelra said:
it's said better to close the superfetch service.

~~Do you remember how for quick reference? Unsure of where to go to do this.~~

Nevermind, found it!

Wrigleyvillain · Apr 9, 2012

If an SSD is the boot drive in Windows 7 it's a good idea to turn off auto-defrag as well as hibernate and system restore (just to save a bit of space and cut down on writes...unless you specifically want/need those features).

baggpipes · Apr 9, 2012

Why disable superfetch? It doesn't write anything right?

Aquinus · Apr 9, 2012

baggpipes said:
Why disable superfetch? It doesn't write anything right?

It uses system memory to cache this data. Windows 7 calls it free, but it still has to wipe that area of memory to actually use it. Since SSDs access data so quickly, the caching isn't necessarily needed. Also SuperFetch does write data to the hard drive. Where do you think it writes all the statistical information about what applications you run and what files you're likely to need?

Either way, I don't think disabling SuperFetch will make a whole lot of a difference, but disabling auto defrag is a must.

tttony · Apr 9, 2012

I follow some of these steps:

Change Temp folder location

Some tips

Moving appdata folder

Change user profile folder

Change program files folder

More Tips / More tips

MSDN FAQ about SSD drives <-- I recommend first read this

Extend the SSD life time <-- This also is good

Move user folder / MSDN move user folder / Another way

I followed some on this tips when I bought my SSD I hope these help

JrRacinFan · Apr 9, 2012

Already done all of the above, including disabling scheduled defrag.

RejZoR · Apr 9, 2012

Actually all the tweaking is pretty much BS. If you're using Windows XP, then yes. But with Windows 7, Windows does all that by itself because it recognizes the SSD. It's SSD aware OS.
Only thing that you can disable is Hibernation if you don't want to wear SSD if your device goes to sleep constantly. But if it doesn't and you have hibernation set to long hours before it goes into effect, it doesn't really matter.

I was too fiddling with the tweaks constantly but now i see it's pointless because Windows 7 does it all by itself and works perfectly fine.

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