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I have owned both Intel and AMD. I would go Intel this round. AMD has seriously been slacking the last oh, I don't know, 7 years.
 
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I have recently been in your situation as my 680i motherboard failed and a stick of RAM was taken out as well.
Initially I was looking directly for a AMD combo based on price until I took a look at the performance reviews.

The thing which totally put me off them was after looking at the performance of the FX6100 vs the Thuban 1090t.
A newer 6 core processor should not perform slower than it's predecessor.
Not a good sign.
A shame when I was hoping AMD was gong to blow Intel out of the water again like they did with the 939skt chips vs the Pentium Ds.

After this I started looking at performance comparisons between the FX8120 and the i5 2500k.
The FX8120 has more cores, and pumps out more heat, draws more power than the i5 2500k, yet does not perform as fast.

The Bulldozer chip is like some big turbo diesel engine while the 2500k is like a tuned sports car engine in comparison IMO.

In the end I could not justify purchasing the combo package since despite the i5 package being $100 more I am still getting a much better deal when running todays current software and better OC potential without needing water cooling so I went the extra $100 to get the i5 2500k package.
 
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Thankyou all for feedback. I will wait for IB release, if its overpriced and perf is not as well as originally thought ill go with a 2500 or even a 2600.
 
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Thankyou all for feedback. I will wait for IB release, if its overpriced and perf is not as well as originally thought ill go with a 2500 or even a 2600.
All the information dropped today, the new i5's are about the same price, maybe even a little cheaper, but don't overclock as well and run a tad hotter. Basicaly an i7-2600k @ 4.7GHz is slightly slower but runs a little cooler than an IB i7 @ 4.5GHz. I would wait for some deals on a 2500 or 2600 and try and snag one before they disappear entirely.
 
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I may go into the $200 range on a mobo and even 16GB of ram and possibly a 2600k.
 

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I'm running both that motherboard and processor. It's a good setup, though I would really wait to see what your 3570K prices are like.
I expect prices to be much higher than whats seen in the US on release, but I'm going to the US in June for a holiday, if the price is far apart would buying the 3570k over there be a good decision?

EDIT: Here are some socket 2011 prices from a local store!
Hex Core i7-3820 $298
i7-3930K $587
Core i7-3960X $1045

So could you assume the price of the 3570k?
 

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That 3820 is a good price. Same as around here but a little cheaper. That may be a good option.
 
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I'm guessing it outperforms the 3570k?
 

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That 3820 is a good price. Same as around here but a little cheaper. That may be a good option.
heck look at the model number, only reason the K is there is so you have an unlocked multiplier, but stock for stock the 3820 even beats out the 3770K slightly
 
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heck look at the model number, only reason the K is there is so you have an unlocked multiplier, but stock for stock the 3820 even beats out the 3770K slightly
I don't have much knowledge on Ivy Bridge I haven't put much research into it. Sorry :laugh:
 

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I don't have much knowledge on Ivy Bridge I haven't put much research into it. Sorry :laugh:
there are reviews on the front page already check them out
 

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I don't have much knowledge on Ivy Bridge I haven't put much research into it. Sorry :laugh:
Almost the same as its counterparts in Sandy Bridge, except for a boost in the graphics department which we don't care, and Quick Sync for encoding videos which gets a nice boost. And it overclocks poorer by about 0.5Ghz
 

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Going to be building a new system in June. Wondering to go with AMD and get an FX-8120 or a i5 2500, literally the same price. I will be getting 8GB of ram and 4 just seems like not enough, especially with BF3. I'm going to be spending around 160-180$ on a motherboard so it should be a decent one. So which should I go for, or is IB a better choice for the wait..?
Intel has 0wned AMD for several years now and will continue to do so for the foreseable future. They beat them in every benchmark and measurement going, especially nowadays. Going Intel now is a no-brainer, especially if the system you're comparing are the same price. Your only question should be which Intel CPU and chipset to buy.
 

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Intel has 0wned AMD for several years now and will continue to do so for the foreseable future. They beat them in every benchmark and measurement going, especially nowadays. Going Intel now is a no-brainer, especially if the system you're comparing are the same price. Your only question should be which Intel CPU and chipset to buy.
Aye this be true. If your on an ultra tight budget or after a HTPC or something AMD is pretty good, but most of the time you are 100% correct.
 
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Almost the same as its counterparts in Sandy Bridge, except for a boost in the graphics department which we don't care, and Quick Sync for encoding videos which gets a nice boost. And it overclocks poorer by about 0.5Ghz
It's about 5-8% faster clock for clock, so if you can get an IB chip to 4.5GHz, you'd need a SB chip at ~4.8GHz to beat it in terms of performance. If you take overclocking into consideration they are about even, but for most people if they are the same price, IB is a better buy.
 
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Hopefully sb goes down in price, 2600k looks ideal imo (and cheaper as a whole for similar perf) , since 2011 motherboards here are still very expensive.
 

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Aye this be true. If your on an ultra tight budget or after a HTPC or something AMD is pretty good, but most of the time you are 100% correct.
Yes, I was wondering about the budget end of things. For getting a cheap PC, AMD wins. The question then becomes one of is the saving worth it. I don't think there's a single answer to that one, as it depends on various factors.

AMD did have the better IGP if using that is important for the user. However, I don't know how Trinity will compare with HD4000. That will be interesting to see. They certainly better up their game to nail Haswell's IGP though.
 
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Wow seriously?..... this topic will be debated for 23.9 hours after the world comes to an end.

Intel = Superman

Amd = Clark Kent

Who do you need?
 

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Wow seriously?..... this topic will be debated for 23.9 hours after the world comes to an end.

Intel = Superman

Amd = Clark Kent

Who do you need?
Unfortunately its not the case at the price point OP is looking :shadedshu

No Bulldozer chip comes close to an overclocked 2600K in tasks which matter to the OP.
 
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If gaming is your primary focus, I'd personally go with the Intel Core i5-3570K. If on a tight budget the i5 2500k is good as well.
 
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either way you go as long as you have a kick ass graphics card (at least quad core of amd or so or 2 core 2 threads or 4 core 4 threads or something with intel)

paired along with gtx680/580/7970 or go sli them or something then your good to go ^_^
 

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Have you bothered to look at various benchmarks/reviews around the web? The information is readily available. These threads turn into nothing but misplaced "fanboy" arguments. Once that starts, this thread goes away.
LOL... i love this...