New X58 motherboard?

[btarunr]

But that's a misinterpreted 'statement' from Intel. It actually meant that SLI won't be part of Intel's chipset, but nowhere mentioned anything about 3rd party chipsets. NForce is 3rd party. oops I've got a party to attend as well, forgetful that I am

 

[JrRacinFan]

I am aware of the whole 3rd party thing. But I took it as nVidia is not even creating an SLi chipset for Nehalem.

 

[largon]

I don't care about SLi support. It's the non-Bloomfield overclock-lock I'm worried about.
If the rumor turns out valid then here's what you'll have to pay if you're interested in OC'ing Nehalem:
LGA1366 CPU: $400/€ ->
X58 motherboard: $250/€ ->
2-3 DDR3 DIMMs: $300/€ ->>

no it wont

How is your Nehalem? Huh?
I mean, I really don't know if the rumour is true but since you "do know" it's not...

 

[btarunr]

you mean to say that to OC, you need to pay Intel? What is this OC-lock exactly, apart from a locked FSB multiplier?

 

[vega22]

thats it according to the rumor mill, the ondie mem controller wont do different speeds but the x range will allow you to change the multi.

how true only time will tell.


cant sombody just stick the nv 200 mcp onto a x58 mobo like they have with the nf600 to nf700?

 

[btarunr]

It's now I feel the most that AMD should compete aggressively with Intel in the high-performance segment.

 

[largon]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7255&Itemid=35

Say hello to "bus lock". Since we're already familiar with locked multipliers it's possible there would be no way whatsoever to OC a non-LGA1366 Nehalem. Bloomfield which is the high-end platform wouldn't have the bus lock so it would be the only OC'able Nehalem platform.

 

[btarunr]

Greedy bas*****.

Now what this should trigger is that AMD speeds up the entry of Shanghai / SandTiger (and derivatives), bring Socket 1207 to the desktop, implement DDR3 IMC, and hit Intel where it would hurt the most, sub-400 dollar CPU market.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Well, Intel seems to have done it this time, but with a bit of luck, one of the board partners will find a way around the overclocking lock. It's not impossible, but it won't be easy
Maybe we should start a petition and tell Intel to tear it out?

 

[farlex85]

Eh, screw nahelem anyway. I'm not paying $400 for 4gb of memory, I'm just not. I don't care how much money I have. And I'm not paying what I'm sure the Bloomfield will cost. I've already decided I'm gonna get the x3360 once it drops below $300 and let that play out for a while, maybe till Sandy Bridge.

Although, by the time it hits, prices could be down to much less than they are. I would imagine that DDR3 prices have to be, or Intel could lose a lot of business. Please AMD, knock them off their high horses, please.

 

[Oliver_FF]

Intel don't have a huge choice when it comes to moving the memory controller onto their chips. At the moment an Intel cpu has multiple cores sharing a common L2 cache. Pretty much all communication goes via the northbridge (where the memory controller is atm) which means when you start upping the number of cores the traffic on the northbridge starts rising too. If you want 12 cores and have a 1333MHz FSB, with a hefty throughput graphics card relying on the northbridge too, it becomes a massive massive bottleneck.

AMD's approach, putting the memory controller on the CPU, means that all memory accesses for all the cores are kept separate the disk reads, graphics cards and USB devices. This is why AMD's architecture is generally quoted to be more scalable than Intels. AMD's cpu's all have their own L2 cache and share a common L3 cache which further reduces stress on the memory.

 

[AsRock]

Looks pretty cool to me if that is a pic of it.. like all that space you have around the CPU area. This mean CPU coolers going get EVEN BIGGER ..


Not some thing i'll get it be some years(2-4) before i upgrade..

 

[largon]

Err...
Board in the article is some prototype, nothing like that will ever go retail.

 

[Morgoth]

here is the X58 board design

 

[imperialreign]

wow . . . that's a rather large form factor right there . . . I wonder if it's a server or workstation board

 

[Morgoth]

thats the prototype..

 

[imperialreign]

thats the prototype..

with Intel that means they've already started production

 

[largon]

imperialreign,
I think the prototype is just a standard size ATX board.

 

[imperialreign]

imperialreign,
I think the prototype is just a standard size ATX board.

It very well could be . . . could also be EATX, kinda hard to tell based on the angle of the pic - I was basing my initial assumption off the spacing between PCB components, but that could also be from the unusual (read: different than standard ATX) placement of the components as well.

 

[tkpenalty]

Hmm... Intel moving to design boards in a similar manner to BTX? That board design pretty much looks like one of their server boards, looks like 771. Triple channel memory? :S

 

[Morgoth]

yep tri channel

 

[largon]

Yup, Bloomfield (high-end) Nehalem has a 3-channel 192bit DDR3 memory controller.
It's a bit shame all this CPU power and memory bandwidth goes to waste as there's nothing CPU-bottlenecked out there except benchmarks. Games are becoming increasingly GPU-bottlenecked (especially shader-wise), CPU speeds don't do squat anymore. "CPU is dead" as nVIDIA said the other day.

 

[DeathTyrant]

Hmm. I really like the look of these new mobos, and have a case that could house them. However, I don't like the OC lock at all.

 

[philbrown23]

well thats a socket 775, I thought the nalahem and bloomfield were going to be socket 1366 or something like that.

 

[largon]

Err...
That's certainly not LGA775.