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#1
Hey Team,

This is my first W/C project build/rebuild. I will be using the LCS 7970 I received from the54thvoid after the last Challenge (Thanks again!!!) and building a loop for the CPU and GPU using the new Swiftech H220 AIO cooler.

Here's a list of the components:
*Most of these parts are from the Norton3 rig in my sig

Case- Fractal Define R4 Black Pearl
PSU- Corsair TX-850 (may replace with SeaSonic X-Gold 750)
Mobo- Asus M5A97 Evo (AMD 970/SB950)
CPU- FX-8350 (upgrade from FX-8150)
Ram- 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600
GPU- PowerColor LCS 7970
HDD- WD 2.5"

Water cooling loop:
- Swiftech H220 AIO
- Swiftech XP 120mm radiator (MCR120-XP)
- 4x Swiftech 3/8"x1/2" Compression fittings
- Black 3/8"x1/2" Tygon tubing
- Fans (various)
* I have the H220 but won't have the rest of the parts in hand until the middle of the week

Draft sketch of the loop:

Please forward any comments on the loop.... I'm a complete noob so all info is welcome :eek:


Pics coming soon :)
 
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Can't wait to see how it goes.
 

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Sub'd:toast:
 

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Thanks guys :)

Any opinions/feedback on how I'm intending to setup the loop?
 

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Nice! I like that cooler. :toast:
 
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no reservoir?
 

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#7
AFAIK the 240 rad on the H220 acts as a reservoir so I don't think it will cause an issue. Swiftech showed several builds adding in GPU's w/o using one.

If I need to, I can add a micro-reservoir into the loop fairly easily.... maybe?
 
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I use no resivor and I have a full custom loop. Only thing I feel I should say is make a mock up first. By that I mean install everything pretty loosly so it can be easily moved. You don't want to end up getting half of your loop put in before you realize that the hose can't bend at this angle.
 
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Are you going to run Norton anti virus?
 

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Are you going to run Norton anti virus?
Wrong Norton :p

O/T- this is a crunching/folding rig so it gets the following software:
- Windows 7 Pro 64
- Microsoft Security Essentials
- BOINC Manager
- F@H Client software
- CCleaner, HWMonitor, Defraggler
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- Updated drivers
and nothing else....
 
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Wrong Norton :p

O/T- this is a crunching/folding rig so it gets the following software:
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- Microsoft Security Essentials
- BOINC Manager
- F@H Client software
- CCleaner, HWMonitor, Defraggler
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and nothing else....
I know, and I'm doing my best to not derail. But surely your ISP gives you free Norton Internet Security anyway? :(
 
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Actually now that I think about it, how are you going to fill the loop? That is the main reason one would have a resivor, and I for myself chose to devise a way to not need a resivor. A micro resivor or a t-line would work.

Like for mine, I flip the entire system upside down and fill from the port that is sticking through where I cut a piece of the case out on the bottom front. This works for me and my goals but is not for everyone.
 

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#13
I know, and I'm doing my best to not derail. But surely your ISP gives you free Norton Internet Security anyway? :(
No worries- turn that frown upside down :D

I do use NIS but only on my main rig and our assorted family laptops (mine, my wife's, and my son's)

I keep the software setup simple and lean for crunching/folding rigs.


@james888 - the H220 radiator has a fill port in it ;)
 

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I would still get a small bay reservoir so that there is more water in the loop.
 
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I would still get a small bay reservoir so that there is more water in the loop.
I agree with MxPhenom that a reservoir adds more water therefore better cooling. Also, it's easier to keep topped off if the reservoir is outside of the case (at the rear). Maybe not a bay reservoir. I had one of those and it needs more acrobatics to get it worked into the line and to fill etc. It's just easier to fill a cylindrical reservoir at the rear of the PC than in a bay reservoir that you probably have to pull out and fill...

This isn't a factory sealed loop by the looks of it. Therefore you're water levels will go down over time and with a clear reservoir it's easier to monitor and refill. Use distilled water or a special WC product. Normal water will get yucky after a while. :)

Another thing, you might want to figure out is how to get the air out of the line once you start filling the loop. If I recall correctly you can work something like a T valve (can't recall exact name) into the line to take all the hassle out of this part. Air is your worst enemy in a WC loop.

Also, do you know the paperclip trick with your PSU? Use that to test your WC loop for leaks or problems before you fire up the PC. They say let it run a few hours (maybe even a day) to make sure the loop is not leaking.
 
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I agree with MxPhenom that a reservoir adds more water therefore better cooling. Also, it's easier to keep topped off if the reservoir is outside of the case (at the rear). Maybe not a bay reservoir. I had one of those and it needs more acrobatics to get it worked into the line and to fill etc. It's just easier to fill a cylindrical reservoir at the rear of the PC than in a bay reservoir that you probably have to pull out and fill...

This isn't a factory sealed loop by the looks of it. Therefore you're water levels will go down over time and with a clear reservoir it's easier to monitor and refill. Use distilled water or a special WC product. Normal water will get yucky after a while. :)

Another thing, you might want to figure out is how to get the air out of the line once you start filling the loop. If I recall correctly you can work something like a T valve (can't recall exact name) into the line to take all the hassle out of this part. Air is your worst enemy in a WC loop.

Also, do you know the paperclip trick with your PSU? Use that to test your WC loop for leaks or problems before you fire up the PC. They say let it run a few hours (maybe even a day) to make sure the loop is not leaking.
Thanks for the feedback! :toast:

I see the concerns regarding a reservoir but I believe it will run fine using the radiator supplied with the H220 (one end has a small res and a fill port on it). If it doesn't work out then I can add one into the loop pretty easily.

I will be mocking up the entire loop in the case and will then pull it out to assemble, fill/bleed, and test. Once this has been done, I will install as a single unit. It won't be the easiest to put in all in one piece but I believe that it won't be too much trouble.... I have a lot of practical experience installing stuff since I spent 10 years of my "younger" life fixing/rebuilding cars ;)

I don't need to use the paperclip trick on the psu as I have a 12v/2amp power brick with a molex plug on it that I will be using to test run the pump and check the loop for leaks.

Will likely have everything up and running next weekend so I'll find out soon how well this all will work.
 
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I would still get a small bay reservoir so that there is more water in the loop.
I agree with MxPhenom that a reservoir adds more water therefore better cooling. Also, it's easier to keep topped off if the reservoir is outside of the case (at the rear). Maybe not a bay reservoir. I had one of those and it needs more acrobatics to get it worked into the line and to fill etc. It's just easier to fill a cylindrical reservoir at the rear of the PC than in a bay reservoir that you probably have to pull out and fill...

This isn't a factory sealed loop by the looks of it. Therefore you're water levels will go down over time and with a clear reservoir it's easier to monitor and refill. Use distilled water or a special WC product. Normal water will get yucky after a while. :)

Another thing, you might want to figure out is how to get the air out of the line once you start filling the loop. If I recall correctly you can work something like a T valve (can't recall exact name) into the line to take all the hassle out of this part. Air is your worst enemy in a WC loop.

Also, do you know the paperclip trick with your PSU? Use that to test your WC loop for leaks or problems before you fire up the PC. They say let it run a few hours (maybe even a day) to make sure the loop is not leaking.
I agree with MxPhenom that a reservoir adds more water therefore better cooling
A resivor as small as a bay resivor wont do much in aid of cooling. One would need about one gallon of water, which would then act as a heat battery. A small bay resivor would mean your temps will be lower for the first 15-30 minutes till the water heats up. Since this rig is crunching and it will have 24/7 usage, that quick time of better temps won't benefit Norton as much as it would a gamer in a 30 minute gaming session.

Thanks anncore, you reiterated what I was trying to say better than I could about why a resivor would probably be a good idea.

Norton, have fun getting the air out of your loop. It will be a pain.
 

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Norton, have fun getting the air out of your loop. It will be a pain.
Will be more fun than a barrel of monkeys :laugh:

Should go fine, the assemble/fill/test/bleed will be outside of the case so I can move the pieces around to get the air out of them completely.

With all of the discussion regarding this, I have decided to either:
- open a hole in the top of the case to access the fill on the rad
OR
- leave enough length on the tubing to the 240 rad so I can move it outside the case a few inches w/o disconnecting anything

We'll see... still a few days left to figure everything out :)
 
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Will be more fun than a barrel of monkeys :laugh:

Should go fine, the assemble/fill/test/bleed will be outside of the case so I can move the pieces around to get the air out of them completely.

With all of the discussion regarding this, I have decided to either:
- open a hole in the top of the case to access the fill on the rad
OR
- leave enough length on the tubing to the 240 rad so I can move it outside the case a few inches w/o disconnecting anything

We'll see... still a few days left to figure everything out :)
Is the pump capable of moving the water you want? If you add too much tubing the water flow might not be what you want.
 

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Is the pump capable of moving the water you want? If you add too much tubing the water flow might not be what you want.
According to Swiftech and several reviewers, the pump should have plenty of power to do what I want it to do and more.
 
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I think that gpu is way overkill. I'll trade you the ol' trusty 7300gt for it. That gpu would be perfect for your build buddy :toast:
 
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Water Cooling...

I am not against WC. But, unless I somehow see some reason to completely lose my mind, I will stick to air.

However, the Corsair line of plug and play's look pretty cool. Might try one out someday when I wanna overvolt something. :eek:
 
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I think that gpu is way overkill. I'll trade you the ol' trusty 7300gt for it. That gpu would be perect for your build buddy :toast:
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