Now that new motherboard supports M.2

cookiemonster · Feb 4, 2018

Hi now that my new motherboard supports them which of these would be the best its just for my operating system and other C: drive programs no games I have all games on an ssd now.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/250...11-3200mb-s-read-1500mb-s-write-330k-300k-iop

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/240...ssd-mlc-nand-read-3000mb-s-write-2400mb-s-250

or do you have any other advice.

Mussels · Feb 4, 2018

you probably wont feel a difference between them at all

cookiemonster · Feb 4, 2018

Will there be much of a difference to the ssd that I am using at the moment.

silentbogo · Feb 4, 2018

cookiemonster said:
Will there be much of a difference to the ssd that I am using at the moment.

Yep, there is a noticeable leap from SATA to PCIe SSD, but when you compare nvme to nvme on basis of human perception - it does not really matter.
I am using an old Samsung XP941 (OEM 128GB version pulled from laptop), and I can't really see the difference between mine and 950 Pro, even though it works on a slower PCIe 2.0 bus and has only half of the effective bandwidth. Startup time is in 10 sec range (cold start to login screen), shutdown is slower after the creators update, but it used to be near instantaneous (need to re-check all settings).
So, you can even get the cheapest Intel 600p and it will "feel" just as fast as the most expensive NVME SSD on the market.

Jetster · Feb 4, 2018

Get the Samsung.

jsfitz54 · Feb 4, 2018

Get the Samsung 960 EVO: based on price between your 2 options, both have 4 lane controllers.

Use Magician 5.2 software for any updates to firmware prior to a fresh install.

If you want MLC over TLC go with Corsair, but most likely will not make a difference by the time you upgrade.

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/corsair-force-mp500-m-2-nvme-ssd-review-480gb/

http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-n...0-m-2-nvme-pcie-ssd-fastest-ever-series-ssds/

https://www.anandtech.com/show/10913/corsair-releases-force-mp500-ssds-3gbs-phison-ps5007e7-mlc-nand

bonehead123 · Feb 4, 2018

^^THIS^^

xkm1948 · Feb 4, 2018

Everything is based on your application. Regular home / office usage you won’t notice much difference between nvme and sata ssd. If you use your computer for heavy data processing then yeah there is quite a big difference.

Jetster · Feb 4, 2018

I use it for video editing. Moveing large work files back and forth from nvme to SSD storage in a blink of an eye

newtekie1 · Feb 4, 2018

cookiemonster said:
Will there be much of a difference to the ssd that I am using at the moment.

When I built my Coffee Lake system I originally re-used my MX200 SSD, but then upgraded to an NVMe Western Digital Black SSD in a week later. I noticed no improvement and just ended up returning the WD drive and went back to the MX200. The system wasn't any more responsive and the boot/shutdown time wasn't noticeable improved either. Not that I would really care about a reduced boot/shutdown time, since SATA SSDs are already super fast.

I'd put that money into a larger and newer SATA based SSD. Like a 500GB MX500.

Jetster said:
I use it for video editing. Moveing large work files back and forth from nvme to SSD storage in a blink of an eye

I assume you mean moving back and forth from a NVMe SSD to a SATA SSD?

jboydgolfer · Feb 4, 2018

newtekie1 said:
When I built my Coffee Lake system I originally re-used my MX200 SSD, but then upgraded to an NVMe Western Digital Black SSD in a week later. I noticed no improvement and just ended up returning the WD drive and went back to the MX200. The system wasn't any more responsive and the boot/shutdown time wasn't noticeable improved either.

Ive told countless people this answer, then they buy the overpriced option, & act surprised when the difference isn't noticeable :rolleyes:

, my board supports it, by my common sense doesnt. :laugh:

cookiemonster · Feb 4, 2018

That is why I asked for advice. I didn't know anything about an M.2 drive and I wasn't going to believe everything I read and having 4 x 500gb ssd's connected I thought I would find out about the M.2 option.

Mussels · Feb 5, 2018

cookiemonster said:
That is why I asked for advice. I didn't know anything about an M.2 drive and I wasn't going to believe everything I read and having 4 x 500gb ssd's connected I thought I would find out about the M.2 option.

M.2 is great - its just taht everything is designed for slow mechanical drives, so you dont often see that speed in real world use

(think games that load slow because of CPU code, or waiting on network - the drive cant use its full speed)

Ferrum Master · Feb 5, 2018

Mussels said:
(think games that load slow because of CPU code, or waiting on network - the drive cant use its full speed)

Asset decompression only using one thread. That's the usual problem.

cookiemonster · Feb 8, 2018

Hi made up my mind going for this one, https://www.scan.co.uk/products/250...200mb-s-read-1500mb-s-write-330k-300k-iop?v=c

bonehead123 · Feb 8, 2018

Excellent choice

Just remember some motherboards may require sammy's nvme. driver to work properly under some OS versions...(unless they fixed that issue?)

Also you may want sammy's magician software for direct firmware updating and health check etc. (optional)

cookiemonster · Feb 8, 2018

From what I have read it comes with the latest Magician.

EarthDog · Feb 8, 2018

It does, but you have to install it.

As far as FW. Go ahead and update before install, but do note for the future most updates are not destructive...it will tell you if it is.

cookiemonster · Feb 8, 2018

How do I go about that EarthDog do I just install the drive on my system as it is then update it.

EarthDog · Feb 8, 2018

If you can, yes. If not, just do it after windows install. As i saod, most are not destructive.

cookiemonster · Feb 10, 2018

Hi just about to install the M.2, questions can I install it t any of the two slots and the cooler that came with the mobo do I remove completely the stuff on the back or just the blue film with remove on it.

Jetster · Feb 10, 2018

Ether one. I wouldn't worry about the cooler yet. Get it working first

EarthDog · Feb 10, 2018

cookiemonster said:
Hi just about to install the M.2, questions can I install it t any of the two slots and the cooler that came with the mobo do I remove completely the stuff on the back or just the blue film with remove on it.

Likely either, but read the manual and see (why ask us whwn it can be found in 30 seconds

).

cookiemonster · Feb 10, 2018

sorry it's a confidence problem.

hi sorry to be a pain this is what I got when I ran Magician, I installed it on M.2-1. the other one M.2-2 was going to send me to the bios.

cookiemonster · Feb 12, 2018

Hi all up and running. Thanks for all the advice.

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