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Numonyx Introduces New Phase Change Memory Devices

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Numonyx B.V. introduced a set of innovative products today based on the new class of memory technology called phase change memory (PCM). The new devices deliver higher performance, endurance and simplicity for wired and wireless communications, consumer electronics, PCs, and other embedded applications.

The new embedded memory products blend many attributes associated with flash memory, as well as RAM and EEPROM, while delivering new capabilities in a single device. Introduced as the newly branded Numonyx Omneo PCM, today’s new products promise up to 300 times faster write speeds and ten times more write endurance than today’s flash memory.

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i like it, but i wont care much until it comes out for standard home PC use
 

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Do want Phase Change computer memory. No more shut-downs unless necessary.
 
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I bet it'll have even more ridiculous price than current SSD drives. And even if it won't have, we'll be at square one with prices again. But i'd really like to have SSD where you don't have to worry about stupid wearing and TRIM. Something this might help with, but it's still far far away.
 

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Do want Phase Change computer memory. No more shut-downs unless necessary.
lost power? dont worry! it'll all be there when it turns back on and boots instantly
 
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I think the easiest way to start getting this product moving is USB3 Flash drives... Or am I crazy?

It claims to be nice & fast - and its a super easy way of getting it to start selling without changing accepted conventions & requiring special Mo'Bo's and such...
 

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I think the easiest way to start getting this product moving is USB3 Flash drives... Or am I crazy?

It claims to be nice & fast - and its a super easy way of getting it to start selling without changing accepted conventions & requiring special Mo'Bo's and such...
its more like a replacement for system ram, than for storage.
 

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lost power? dont worry! it'll all be there when it turns back on and boots instantly
Or, your ram is ALSO your hard drive. :D Can't wait for that day to come. Last I/O bottleneck removed.
 

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This seems like its not really ment to come to RAM. I mean not until maximum write is improved. Am I wrong in thinking leaving this running memtest all night would wear it out beyond usability? 1 million write ops isnt alot in the RAM universe.
 

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This seems like its not really ment to come to RAM. I mean not until maximum write is improved. Am I wrong in thinking leaving this running memtest all night would wear it out beyond usability? 1 million write ops isnt alot in the RAM universe.
Yet. ;) :D
 
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I'm guessing memory density limitations are why it's being considered more of a ram replacement?
 

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Thats gonna be a while was we dont see SSD's replacing mechanical harddrives for the next 10years
 

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Thats gonna be a while was we dont see SSD's replacing mechanical harddrives for the next 10years
this is going to be a RAM replacement before its an SSD replacement.
 
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I don't see mentioning anything that would suggest replacement of RAM with this technology.
It's just mentioning high write count and no need for TRIM. With higher transfer rates.
That's what i see as next gen SSD technology. Not RAM replacement. RAM today is really fast and doesn't have any read/write limits. Density is really not an issue, plus triple channel allows 12GB using 2GB modules or 24GB using 4GB modules (still expensive). That's more than enough for most users.
 

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I don't see mentioning anything that would suggest replacement of RAM with this technology.
It's just mentioning high write count and no need for TRIM. With higher transfer rates.
That's what i see as next gen SSD technology. Not RAM replacement. RAM today is really fast and doesn't have any read/write limits. Density is really not an issue, plus triple channel allows 12GB using 2GB modules or 24GB using 4GB modules (still expensive). That's more than enough for most users.
previous releases have mentioned it for RAM replacements.


Its the speed of system RAM, with the non-volatility of flash memory. its where the two seperate mediums (memory + storage) blend into one - see the comments above about instant boots from power off, and so on.
 
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^yes, RAM replacements, but not for regular PCs, but for, e.g., embedded devices, peripherals, scientific and military equipment.
 
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Perhaps it can be both... with some work. Maybe it could even be variable, say you have a 500 GB drive, you could just divide it up however you want for ram usage or storage space.
 

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Think Phase Change Memory would work well in SSD type use?
 

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Perhaps it can be both... with some work. Maybe it could even be variable, say you have a 500 GB drive, you could just divide it up however you want for ram usage or storage space.
wont be needed, if your storage is so fast, you dont need the high speed buffer of RAM
 
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Everyone is missing the embedded part. This is like the ROM used to store bootcode, used to store firmware, BIOS, embedded applications. Like for a touch screen, a MRI machine, a DVD player, a printer, a phone, GPS devices.

I am excited by this as I have color touchscreens we use for multiple applications that I have to reprogram firmware multiple times a year, and the updates take about two hours per. Faster is better, plus faster boot and load times for the applications.
 
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wont be needed, if your storage is so fast, you dont need the high speed buffer of RAM
Well I'd think you'd need a segregated section for open program memory so you know how much storage you actually have, and so that people don't fill their drive up so much that it cripples their memory space for active programs.
 

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Everyone is missing the embedded part. This is like the ROM used to store bootcode, used to store firmware, BIOS, embedded applications. Like for a touch screen, a MRI machine, a DVD player, a printer, a phone, GPS devices.

I am excited by this as I have color touchscreens we use for multiple applications that I have to reprogram firmware multiple times a year, and the updates take about two hours per. Faster is better, plus faster boot and load times for the applications.
No we aren't. We are looking past that to possible future technologies. It's all but useless to most of us in it's current state.

Well I'd think you'd need a segregated section for open program memory so you know how much storage you actually have, and so that people don't fill their drive up so much that it cripples their memory space for active programs.
Set it up like a pagefile.