• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Nvidia 560ti DirectCu II beats HD 6970 ?

Joined
Feb 15, 2011
Messages
115 (0.05/day)
Likes
10
System Name Naruto Fan
Processor Intel I7-2700k
Motherboard ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME-Z
Cooling Corsair H-100
Memory PDP PATRIOT Viper 9-10-9 27 8GB DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS 6990 // ASUS MATRIX GTX 580SLI
Storage WD Caviar Black WD6402AAEX - 640GB // SSD 120 GB Vertex II
Display(s) LG w2343T (SOON 3D)
Case Big Blue Tower (from the bin)
Audio Device(s) Motherboard one for now
Power Supply Antec 1200w
Software Windows 7 Ultimate x64
#1
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II TOP


ASUS Radeon HD 6970


So now im realy confused which VGA to buy. Give me advices please im looking for video card up to 300 euro for it.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 7, 2008
Messages
329 (0.10/day)
Likes
88
Location
Canberra Australia
Processor i5 750 4.2ghz 1.4V
Motherboard Gigabyte P55-UD4P
Cooling Corsair H70
Memory 2X2G Gskill @2140 8-11-8-28-1T
Video Card(s) 2xGainward Phantom3 570@860/4200
Storage 2xWD 500G AAKS Raid0 + 2XWD 1T Green in Raid0
Display(s) 24" HP w2408h+23" HP w2338h
Case SilverStone Raven2E-B
Audio Device(s) onboard for now
Power Supply Antec 1000W Truepower quattro
Software Win7 Ultimate 64bit
#2
or there are two cards in SLi, I dunno, I personally will get a 560 instead of AiT or ADM 6990 i really dunno
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
17,026 (3.43/day)
Likes
17,887
Processor Core i7-4790K
Memory 16 GB
Video Card(s) GTX 1080
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 7
#4
hawx 2 favours nvidia cards big time, it's not a useful benchmark for fair comparison
 
Joined
Jan 2, 2009
Messages
9,767 (2.99/day)
Likes
1,779
Location
Suffolk/Essex, England
System Name Joseph's Laptop Clevo P771ZM
Processor 4970k @4/4.4ghz
Motherboard *shrugs*
Cooling About 2 kilos of copper fins and pipes.
Memory 2x 8gb
Video Card(s) GTX 970m 6gb
Storage 500gb Msata SSD 2x 2TB storage drives
Display(s) Built in
Power Supply 300w power brick
Mouse Steam controller
Software Windows ten
#5
Joined
Feb 15, 2011
Messages
115 (0.05/day)
Likes
10
System Name Naruto Fan
Processor Intel I7-2700k
Motherboard ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME-Z
Cooling Corsair H-100
Memory PDP PATRIOT Viper 9-10-9 27 8GB DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS 6990 // ASUS MATRIX GTX 580SLI
Storage WD Caviar Black WD6402AAEX - 640GB // SSD 120 GB Vertex II
Display(s) LG w2343T (SOON 3D)
Case Big Blue Tower (from the bin)
Audio Device(s) Motherboard one for now
Power Supply Antec 1200w
Software Windows 7 Ultimate x64
#6
Which Manufacturer is better? HD 6970 ASUS / XFX / SAPHIRE /HIS / PowerColor/Gygabite / Club 3D ? I hope at the end of this month HD 6970 DirectCU 2 will come out. :rolleyes::p
 
Joined
Aug 9, 2008
Messages
4,559 (1.34/day)
Likes
2,699
Location
Kingston, Ontario Canada
System Name My Rig | Kids Rig
Processor Core i5 3570K @ 4.0 ghz 1.15 vcore | FX 8350 @4 ghz
Motherboard EVGA Z77 FTW 1.21 BIOS |Gigabyte 990FXA UDH (rev 4.0)
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO R2-push/pull with 2x 120mm PWM | CM Hyper 212
Memory Mushkin Blackline 4GB x 2 1600mhz XMP profile |G. Skill 4GB x 2 DDR3 1866mhz
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 480 8gb | Asus Strix R9 390X 8GB
Storage Kingston SSDNOW V300 120/240 GB OS & Games / 1000 GB Data | 320GB OS / 500GB Data & Games
Display(s) Samsung S24D590 24" PLS 5ms 60hz refresh with Enhanced Sync | BenQ GW2270 22" VA 5ms 60hz refresh
Case NZXT 810 Switch |Thermaltake Soprano Snow Edition
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DSX w/ Logitech z623 | Realtek
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold | CoolerMaster GS750M 80+ Bronze
Mouse Razer Diamondback Chroma | Tt Level 10M
Keyboard Razer Ornata Chroma w/ meka-membrane keys | MadCatz S.T.R.I.K.E. TE w/ Kailh brown
Software Windows 10 Pro | Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Thanks to Norton/Lt_JWS/Guitar for the 2nd pc parts :)
#7
I'd go for XFX for the double lifetime warranty. I recommended my friend one and he is more than pleased with it :D
 

wolf

Performance Enthusiast
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
5,576 (1.44/day)
Likes
864
System Name MightyX (MITX)
Processor Core i7 4770K @ 4.2ghz
Motherboard Asus Z87i-Pro
Cooling Noctua NH-L12
Memory 16gb DDR3 1600 LP
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX1080 G1 OC
Storage Lots of SSD's
Display(s) AOC AGON AG352QCX
Case Raven RVZ-01
Power Supply SFX 450 G
Mouse Razer Mamba Tournament Chroma
Keyboard Razer Blackwidow X Chroma
#8
At this stage I'd wait just a little till both Nvidia and AMD realease their ultra high end Dual GPU cards, I have a feeling it might just push down the price of the GTX570/580 and 6950/6970 2gb.
 
Joined
Nov 23, 2008
Messages
219 (0.07/day)
Likes
7
System Name zZZZZzzZzZ
#9
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II TOP
http://www.downloadatoz.com/resources/201101/pic/1296200663.jpg

ASUS Radeon HD 6970
http://www.downloadatoz.com/resources/201101/pic/1296200758.jpg

So now im realy confused which VGA to buy. Give me advices please im looking for video card up to 300 euro for it.
the 560 will also beat it Civilization v, battleforge, dirt 2. according to this review

is that because of drivers? or its just that these games are written for nvidia?
because civilization had a big jump with the new forceware drivers and the 560 didnt beat it on earlier drivers.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
967 (0.32/day)
Likes
221
System Name El Superbeasto V1.2
Processor Intel i5-2500k @ 5.0 ghz
Motherboard MSI Z77A-GD55
Cooling XSPC Raystorm CPU + 2 RX360 radiator + xspc Razor R9-290 w/ backplate
Memory 16gb G.skill Sniper 1866 ddr3 (9-9-9-24)
Video Card(s) XFX R9 290 w/ XSPC Razor full cover block and backplate
Storage Hyper-X 120gb-OS, WD Caviar black 2TB-Steam, Plextor M5S 256gb - MMOs+RTS games
Display(s) Samsung 23" 120hz 3d LCD w/ 3d glasses, using 'lightboost' trick
Case NZXT H630 white watercooling case
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster ZX + Sennheiser HD 598
Power Supply XFX Pro 850 XXX semi-modular
Software Windows 10 Pro (Had some mystery error on Win7 and decided to go W10)
#10
A lot of games and gamedevs are sponsored by nVidia, so they get better optimization. AMD/Ati just don't have the spare cash to compete right now.
Add in AMD/ATI less than optimal drivers/software and you get nVidia ahead in most games and benchmarks.
This is unfortunate, because AMD/ATI make excellent graphics hardware, but poor software and drivers.

Ubisoft released Assasin's Creed for PC with support for DX 10.1, which ATI supported but nVidia didn't. It was game that was branded NTWIMTBP. DX 10.1 was subsequently pulled because nVidia pays for optimization and sometimes, outright sabotage. And they didn't like the fact that ATI performed better for a while.

I'm not bashing nVidia here. It's just a fact in the business world everyone will cheat if given the chance.
It's just been a while since AMD/ATI has had the money to get their way.
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2010
Messages
2,944 (1.13/day)
Likes
1,379
System Name The Sheriff / The Deputy
Processor 2500K / G4560
Motherboard ASRock P67Extreme4 / Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3
Cooling CM Hyper TX3 / Intel stock
Memory 16 GB Kingston HyperX / 8 GB Kingston HyperX
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 960 SSC / Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti LP
Storage SSD, some WD and lots of Samsungs
Display(s) BenQ GW2470 / Samsung SyncMaster T220
Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced / Thermaltake Core v31
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D1/Denon PMA500AE/Wharfedale D 10.1/Senn HD518
Power Supply Corsair TX650 / Corsair TX650M
Mouse Steelseries Rival 100/ Mionix Avior 7000
Keyboard Sidewinder
Software Windows 10 / Windows 10 Pro
#11
If you can find a 6970 under 300 Euro then it's better that any variations of 560. It is on par with gtx570 which in turn might be more exepnsive than 300 Euro. That is if you have no problems with amd and what you might exepect in terms of drivers and games that are more favorable to nvidia gpus.
 

MxPhenom 216

Corsair Fanboy
Joined
Aug 31, 2010
Messages
12,129 (4.56/day)
Likes
3,697
Location
Seattle, WA
System Name The Battlestation
Processor Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.2GHZ 1.275v
Motherboard MSi Z97 Gaming 5
Cooling EK Supremacy w/ EK Coolstream PE360
Memory G. Skill Trident X 16Gb (4x4GB) 2400mhz @ 1.65v
Video Card(s) MSi GTX1070 Gaming X 8GB @ 2GHz
Storage Samsung 830 128GB SSD, Crucial MX200 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 2TB (2x 1TB Partitions)
Display(s) Qnix QX2710 27" 2560 x 1440 PLS @ 100hz
Case Phantek Enthoo Evolv ATX TG
Audio Device(s) MSi Gaming AudioBoost ALC1150 w/ Sennheiser Game Ones
Power Supply Seasonic Flagship Prime Platinum 850
Mouse Steelseries Rival 310 w/ QCK Mass mat
Keyboard Corsair K70 w/ MX Browns and Red Backlit
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 15439
#12
I'd go for XFX for the double lifetime warranty. I recommended my friend one and he is more than pleased with it :D
XFX fail. Especially if its a non-reference card. the PCB/Circuitry, and VRMs are extremely cheap. And whats the point of double life time warrenty when the company doesnt honor it and if your not going to have the card for a life time
 
Joined
Nov 23, 2008
Messages
219 (0.07/day)
Likes
7
System Name zZZZZzzZzZ
#13
A lot of games and gamedevs are sponsored by nVidia, so they get better optimization. AMD/Ati just don't have the spare cash to compete right now.
Add in AMD/ATI less than optimal drivers/software and you get nVidia ahead in most games and benchmarks.
This is unfortunate, because AMD/ATI make excellent graphics hardware, but poor software and drivers.

Ubisoft released Assasin's Creed for PC with support for DX 10.1, which ATI supported but nVidia didn't. It was game that was branded NTWIMTBP. DX 10.1 was subsequently pulled because nVidia pays for optimization and sometimes, outright sabotage. And they didn't like the fact that ATI performed better for a while.

I'm not bashing nVidia here. It's just a fact in the business world everyone will cheat if given the chance.
It's just been a while since AMD/ATI has had the money to get their way.
i dont like both of them having influence on devs, that would make a mess (ie mid range card beating other's high end) like what we have in this thread.

if its about drivers as you say then why arent they recognizing this problem? everybodys talking about it for years.
or maybe its just that amd sucksl? :D joke!
 
Last edited:

MxPhenom 216

Corsair Fanboy
Joined
Aug 31, 2010
Messages
12,129 (4.56/day)
Likes
3,697
Location
Seattle, WA
System Name The Battlestation
Processor Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.2GHZ 1.275v
Motherboard MSi Z97 Gaming 5
Cooling EK Supremacy w/ EK Coolstream PE360
Memory G. Skill Trident X 16Gb (4x4GB) 2400mhz @ 1.65v
Video Card(s) MSi GTX1070 Gaming X 8GB @ 2GHz
Storage Samsung 830 128GB SSD, Crucial MX200 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 2TB (2x 1TB Partitions)
Display(s) Qnix QX2710 27" 2560 x 1440 PLS @ 100hz
Case Phantek Enthoo Evolv ATX TG
Audio Device(s) MSi Gaming AudioBoost ALC1150 w/ Sennheiser Game Ones
Power Supply Seasonic Flagship Prime Platinum 850
Mouse Steelseries Rival 310 w/ QCK Mass mat
Keyboard Corsair K70 w/ MX Browns and Red Backlit
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 15439
#14
i dont like both of them having influence on devs, that would make a mess (ie mid range card beating other's high end) like what we have in this thread.

if its about drivers as you say then why arent they recognizing this problem? everybodys talking about it for years.
or maybe its just that amd sucksl? :D joke!
actually lately. AMD and Nvidia have kind of been slacking on drivers, however AMD 11.2 drive suite is SOLID! when nvidia latest WHQL is pretty crappy. My view on drivers now is its a user issue i think. Oh and that people are stuck with hte fact of using Driver Sweeper when that is only nessessary when switching Teams. Red to green or vice versa. Now that software has advanced pretty far when deleting drivers they delete pretty throughly, and leave the needed files for the new drivers.
 
Joined
Aug 9, 2008
Messages
4,559 (1.34/day)
Likes
2,699
Location
Kingston, Ontario Canada
System Name My Rig | Kids Rig
Processor Core i5 3570K @ 4.0 ghz 1.15 vcore | FX 8350 @4 ghz
Motherboard EVGA Z77 FTW 1.21 BIOS |Gigabyte 990FXA UDH (rev 4.0)
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO R2-push/pull with 2x 120mm PWM | CM Hyper 212
Memory Mushkin Blackline 4GB x 2 1600mhz XMP profile |G. Skill 4GB x 2 DDR3 1866mhz
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 480 8gb | Asus Strix R9 390X 8GB
Storage Kingston SSDNOW V300 120/240 GB OS & Games / 1000 GB Data | 320GB OS / 500GB Data & Games
Display(s) Samsung S24D590 24" PLS 5ms 60hz refresh with Enhanced Sync | BenQ GW2270 22" VA 5ms 60hz refresh
Case NZXT 810 Switch |Thermaltake Soprano Snow Edition
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DSX w/ Logitech z623 | Realtek
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold | CoolerMaster GS750M 80+ Bronze
Mouse Razer Diamondback Chroma | Tt Level 10M
Keyboard Razer Ornata Chroma w/ meka-membrane keys | MadCatz S.T.R.I.K.E. TE w/ Kailh brown
Software Windows 10 Pro | Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Thanks to Norton/Lt_JWS/Guitar for the 2nd pc parts :)
#15
XFX fail. Especially if its a non-reference card. the PCB/Circuitry, and VRMs are extremely cheap. And whats the point of double life time warrenty when the company doesnt honor it and if your not going to have the card for a life time
I've seen alot of happy XFX users, and i dont get your gripe on the warranty either. How do they not honour it? They will give you a card of equal performance in return if the card is EOL. At least thats how i've read it and seen stories about it.
 
Joined
Feb 15, 2011
Messages
115 (0.05/day)
Likes
10
System Name Naruto Fan
Processor Intel I7-2700k
Motherboard ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME-Z
Cooling Corsair H-100
Memory PDP PATRIOT Viper 9-10-9 27 8GB DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS 6990 // ASUS MATRIX GTX 580SLI
Storage WD Caviar Black WD6402AAEX - 640GB // SSD 120 GB Vertex II
Display(s) LG w2343T (SOON 3D)
Case Big Blue Tower (from the bin)
Audio Device(s) Motherboard one for now
Power Supply Antec 1200w
Software Windows 7 Ultimate x64
#16
I hope ASUS DirectCu II will be released till the end of this month so i can buy it.
 
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
967 (0.32/day)
Likes
221
System Name El Superbeasto V1.2
Processor Intel i5-2500k @ 5.0 ghz
Motherboard MSI Z77A-GD55
Cooling XSPC Raystorm CPU + 2 RX360 radiator + xspc Razor R9-290 w/ backplate
Memory 16gb G.skill Sniper 1866 ddr3 (9-9-9-24)
Video Card(s) XFX R9 290 w/ XSPC Razor full cover block and backplate
Storage Hyper-X 120gb-OS, WD Caviar black 2TB-Steam, Plextor M5S 256gb - MMOs+RTS games
Display(s) Samsung 23" 120hz 3d LCD w/ 3d glasses, using 'lightboost' trick
Case NZXT H630 white watercooling case
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster ZX + Sennheiser HD 598
Power Supply XFX Pro 850 XXX semi-modular
Software Windows 10 Pro (Had some mystery error on Win7 and decided to go W10)
#17
As stated earlier, XFX non reference cards aren't that great. If you buy XFX and are in North America, buy near a new graphics card launch to get a reference design card. They are solid, just like every other brand. Reference design + Double lifetime warranty = high resale value.

Or, buy an XFX reference design from someone else to get the warranty when they upgrade to the next gen. Good way to go crossfire semi-cheap and you get a reliable product.

I sold my XFX 4870 at a decent price because of the warranty. It still runs great for the guy in a W7 WoW box.
It was a solid card, great price/performance in its day.

I have a friend who bought a non-ref XFX 5850, can't overclock for crap and runs hot.
 
Joined
Feb 15, 2011
Messages
115 (0.05/day)
Likes
10
System Name Naruto Fan
Processor Intel I7-2700k
Motherboard ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME-Z
Cooling Corsair H-100
Memory PDP PATRIOT Viper 9-10-9 27 8GB DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS 6990 // ASUS MATRIX GTX 580SLI
Storage WD Caviar Black WD6402AAEX - 640GB // SSD 120 GB Vertex II
Display(s) LG w2343T (SOON 3D)
Case Big Blue Tower (from the bin)
Audio Device(s) Motherboard one for now
Power Supply Antec 1200w
Software Windows 7 Ultimate x64
#18
already Ordered ASUS 6970 DC II :D im realy happy till the end of the month i will have it. Price 335€