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NVIDIA Announces GeForce RTX 3080 Ti ($1200) and RTX 3070 Ti ($600)

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Pricing of these in India:
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~$1700 for 3080Ti

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~$850 for 3070Ti

Now to real world, I have seen retailers selling 3060Ti for over $1000 here so that MSRP to start with is a joke and when applying the msrp to current scenario it's pointless. at this point screw nvidia(and for GPUs AMD as well).
 
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AMD took that and applied it to their CPU pricing.

No, their CPUs are still almost half the price of this 3080 Ti. They increased prices yes but it ain't nowhere near this level.

I get you but I think they mean to say that we just are not getting anything for that price point anymore, prices just keep going up and these damn world issues make it seem like these MSRP's are perfectly reasonable as well....

I would love to upgrade, heck it has been kinda needed for a while but I just cant bring myself to pay that much for such a product, its not that I cant afford it, I just dont think its worth that much money.

Agreed. As an avid gamer myself I'm perfectly fine with what I have. So many other things you can do with the money that'll get you more value.
 
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No, their CPUs are still almost half the price of this 3080 Ti. They increased prices yes but it ain't nowhere near this level.
It's not about "this level" it's about the price creep.
 
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I'm sorry but I feel you are wrong at least on launch. The cards (most) won't be EXACTLY $1199 but typically only the founders and the most basic AIB cards would be.

The rest will still be withing the TYPICAL up charge for somethk g like a ftw3 or strix etc.

The day of launch I know if I want a card for msrp the majority of places I'm going to get it will be selling it what the aib has set the pricing for.

A few weeks / months down the road yes some places may be selling cards for more but evga for example has everyone of their cards listed still to this day at the pricing they set for them initially or atleast with the US tariff increase included.
Evga may have it listed at the msrp (or their originally listed price) but good luck getting one. These will indeed be sold at 3x price on day one.
 
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Well you could also quote Nvidia on this and make a better comparison:
"For gamers still rocking the well-loved GTX 1080 Ti, the RTX 3080 Ti is 2x faster in traditional rasterization"... 1080 Ti - $699 MSRP, 3080 Ti $1199 MSRP.
Yea but it's also in line with the last one kinda hard to get mad at them too for that when they offered you a card within 10% of it for $699.

Enthusiasts are accustomed to paying significantly more for what is usually only a slight increase over "high end".

My 2080ti held me well and got me a 3080 for NEGATIVE money out of pocket I don't really have a problem now spending that extra money on this card which I'll easily be able to make up selling my 3080 and even then when I'm ready for a 4080 I'll likley be able to pull the same thing then.

Evga may have it listed at the msrp (or their originally listed price) but good luck getting one. These will indeed be sold at 3x price on day one.
Well maybe from whatever back alley place in Eastern eruope you have to go to but best buy and evga will both be listing these cards on day 1 at their respective msrp's.

Garuanteed!

The inability for you (or me) to secure a product doesn't not negate the fact the product WILL be sold for that price to someone.

And I personally have my plan (like last time) that got me a 3080 on day 1 at msrp to get a 80ti this time as well.

And no no bots or scalper type crap just proper planning and understanding of what likley to be most beneficial use of my time the moment these go live.
 

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$1199 is around £850 in the UK. But I doubt I'll see FE cards here at anything under £1100.
 
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Pricing of these in India:
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~$1700 for 3080Ti

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~$850 for 3070Ti

Now to real world, I have seen retailers selling 3060Ti for over $1000 here so that MSRP to start with is a joke and when applying the msrp to current scenario it's pointless. at this point screw nvidia(and for GPUs AMD as well).
Isn't this more of an issue with your country and the worth of its currency? I mean I'm not expert but if everything ends up needing to be cheaper per conversion for you guys doesn't that mean your money just isn't worth what it needs to be.

Unlike games where they can just discount them for you all to make it more affordable these are physical products with determined costs that need to be recouped.

$1199 is around £850 in the UK. But I doubt I'll see FE cards here at anything under £1100.
Does Nvidia not sell directly to you guys via some site or partner site over there?
 

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Does Nvidia not sell directly to you guys via some site or partner site over there?
They do (via Scan Computers - the ONLY way to get an FE card in the UK), but the $699 3080 arrived here at £649 because we have 20% sales tax.

Even then, we only get drops lasting around 5 seconds every 4-6 weeks.
 
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Hi,
Nvidia has been selling titan's for 1200 for a while so 3080ti at 1200.us fills the large gap between 3080 and 3090.
Vaporware still but miners and scalpers rejoice
 
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Bugger me $1199 MSRP for a card ~10% faster and 2GB more VRAM than a 3080 @ 699 MSRP. Massive RIP to what will be the on-shelf prices.
But is a 3080 even remotely a $699 card these days? When's the last time you saw one for that price? In the states it's not been possible since the tarrfis in January so I don't think it's even fair to compare the OLD 3080 pricing before all that with the new 3080ti msrp.

I think for many the Ti will still look like a pretty solid value compared to what they might have to pay for a 3080 of they go elsewhere.

The truth is every single gamer even remotely fathoming a 3080 or 3090 will absolutely be trying to get one of these.

Looking at EVGA 3080 cards, they are all $100-200 over msrp, so for the 3080Ti we are looking at $1299-1399 for EVGA. Not feeling that, will skip to the 4000 series for that kind of money, will keep using the 2080Ti.
Me I'm glad I took my 2080ti sold it for 83% of what I paid for it used that money to buy 3080 and put several hundred dollars in my pocket.... Now I'll take that extra cash try to land one of these and when successful sell my 3080 for enough to cover the upgrade in full.

I'll have went 2080ti 3080 3080ti with money in my pockets at the end.

And I'll likley be able to sell the 3080ti right before the 4080 launch for again enough to pay for that upgrade in full as well.

They do (via Scan Computers - the ONLY way to get an FE card in the UK), but the $699 3080 arrived here at £649 because we have 20% sales tax.

Even then, we only get drops lasting around 5 seconds every 4-6 weeks.
Well we have taxes similar to that in different parts of the states as well amd even when I got a $699 3080 I did not come close to JUST paying $699 taxes are expected and I know conversion rates can sometimes be messy but at the end of the day they still make them available to you same as us for what is essentially msrp.

Difficult to aquire?... sure but not impossible nor non existent.
 
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But is a 3080 even remotely a $699 card these days? When's the last time you saw one for that price? In the states it's not been possible since the tarrfis in January so I don't think it's even fair to compare the OLD 3080 pricing before all that with the new 3080ti msrp.
It is fair when FE can still be purchased for MSRP.

Pricing of these in India:
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~$1700 for 3080Ti

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~$850 for 3070Ti

Now to real world, I have seen retailers selling 3060Ti for over $1000 here so that MSRP to start with is a joke and when applying the msrp to current scenario it's pointless. at this point screw nvidia(and for GPUs AMD as well).
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$1530 vs $895

but...

In reality the actual prices are valid starting from the end of the list:
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Isn't this more of an issue with your country and the worth of its currency? I mean I'm not expert but if everything ends up needing to be cheaper per conversion for you guys doesn't that mean your money just isn't worth what it needs to be.

Unlike games where they can just discount them for you all to make it more affordable these are physical products with determined costs that need to be recouped.


Does Nvidia not sell directly to you guys via some site or partner site over there?
Adjusted for taxes generally prices for GPUs are around 20-25% higher than US msrp(in last couple of years for some reason prices have come down a lot). Also in last few months most retailes in India have started price gouging beyond reason, even CPUs are stupidly overpriced. Saw some retailers selling 5950x(though due to overpricing they are in stock) for nearly $1200 equivalent while they until last years they were within 5-10% of US prices.
 
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It is fair when FE can still be purchased for MSRP.


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$1530 vs $895

but...

In reality the actual prices are valid starting from the end of the list:
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Again I'm not expert and I know "msrp" and the amount in USD for us may not does not HAVE to be the same for other places.

Like I get that its nice when we all pay the same but it's just not how the world works in some cases.

You guys get steam games for pennies on the dollar compared to us in a lot cases but again their an economic reason for this and it's something the can accommodate.

I assume the pricing you of physical goods works differently than digital and they just can't make what you want work with whatever tarrif / tax / etc that may be involved with selling the physical good in your country.

3080TI, 8% faster than 3080 for 72% more $$$. You gotta love Ngreedia. Jensen: "The more you buy, the more you save" RIP PC GAMING if this trend continues.
Sorry but this is normal for enthusiast markets were always paying extremely high costs beyond what many would consider "reasonable" usually for very little gain (but it's still a gain and it still puts us on top so we go for it)

That's what being part of the enthusiast market is about.

You absolutely don't need to be a part of it if you don't find that kind of thing of interest.

But many do it's why Lambos and Ferraris exist.

Adjusted for taxes generally prices for GPUs are around 20-25% higher than US msrp(in last couple of years for some reason prices have come down a lot). Also in last few months most retailes in India have started price gouging beyond reason, even CPUs are stupidly overpriced. Saw some retailers selling 5950x(though due to overpricing they are in stock) for nearly $1200 equivalent while they until last years they were within 5-10% of US prices.
And that my friend is unfortunately likley your own people taking advantage of each other.

Not a lot the rest of the world can do when it's your own businesses marking you up.
 
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Again I'm not expert and I know "msrp" and the amount in USD for us may not does not HAVE to be the same for other places.

Like I get that its nice when we all pay the same but it's just not how the world works in some cases.

You guys get steam games for pennies on the dollar compared to us in a lot cases but again their an economic reason for this and it's something the can accommodate.
Those cards still have "MSRP" set in regions that offer FE editions, so you can totally compare the prices. I'm talking about FE vs FE. I'm not talking about comparing 3080 from MSI with 3080 Ti FE pricing suggested by Nvidia. If I would a $1200 3080 Ti would be a steal next to $2500 3080.
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As for "you guys" - us guys in EU are paying $70+ for your $60 games for years now.
 
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Sorry but this is normal for enthusiast markets were always paying extremely high costs beyond what many would consider "reasonable" usually for very little gain (but it's still a gain and it still puts us on top so we go for it)

That's what being part of the enthusiast market is about.

You absolutely don't need to be a part of it if you don't find that kind of thing of interest.

But many do it's why Lambos and Ferraris exist.
Normal??? Far from it. Some recent high end dGPU history (price/performance value):

2013: 780TI vs GTX 680 = +66% performance increase & 200$ MSRP price increase
2015: 980TI vs 780TI = +28% performance increase & 50$ price REDUCTION
2017: 1080TI vs 980TI = +67% performance increase & 50$ price increase
2019: 2080TI vs 1080TI = +26% performance increase & 300$ price increase!!!
2021: 3080TI vs 2080TI = +40% performance increase & 200$ price increase

nVidia went from charging $500 to $1200 bucks for top tier gaming GPU in just 9 years...240% price increase in time frame when cumulative USD inflation was 16,3%. Why the hell are people still defending them and AMD's MSRP price hikes???
 
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But is a 3080 even remotely a $699 card these days? When's the last time you saw one for that price?
It is fair when FE can still be purchased for MSRP.
This. It's an insane price increase VS what you get for it. It just gives retailers even more excuse to jack the price.

Smells a little like yeilds are decent on GA102, so they want to milk more $$ out of those dies instead of settling for them being just a 3080 and taking a smaller slice of pie, and get to make the VRAM amount of a 3090 go to two cards instead of one.
 
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$1200 is joke of course. Right now the Strix 3080 OC sold out at A$2800 and the Strix 3090 OC has been also sold at A$4200. In fact, none of the cards are left for sale.
 
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Actually I was hoping to also hear something about the low end GPUs, 3050 ti and 3050. Still need a 75w card without 6-pin connector.
 

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As for "you guys" - us guys in EU are paying $70+ for your $60 games for years now.

Is there some kind of tax being applied in Poland? Perhaps a VAT tax?

Where I live in the USA the sales tax is 9.25% so for a $60 game I pay $65.55

The tax man will get their money one way or another.
 

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Who cares at this point, order now, recieve by christmas, and then 4000 series launch on Samsung 5nm in 2nd half of 2022

They will sell for 2-3 timse MSRP anyway, terrible value

I really hope we will see 7900XT late this year on TSMC 5nm, Nvidia could get in trouble, especially if FSR works well

I don't expect GPU market to normalize before mid 2022 maybe even 2023
 
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It's still better than what you had (per/$) in 2017, 2018 & 2019 ~ it's only 2020 & arguably Covid that blew the demand out of all expectations. Nvidia on the other hand had RTX 2xxx series remember that? The only reason why the initial launch of Ampere looked better is because the 2xxx was basically selling at extortionary prices, historically speaking Ampere is still extremely poor VFM.
It's still a over 70% MSRP increase over the predecessor 3080 from only 6 months ago. Or nearly half the perf/$.

That's disasterous no matter how you cut it.

No, their CPUs are still almost half the price of this 3080 Ti. They increased prices yes but it ain't nowhere near this level.
The effective price increase for their 6 core tier CPU was 50% (199.99 to 299.99) for 20-40% more performance. Actual real world pricing was damn near 100%, going from ~$169 for a 3600 to $300 for a 5600x, not including scalp pricing.

"but muh 3600x" The 3600, 3600 x(treme fanboi edition), and 3600 x(treme fanboi) t(urbo edition) were all the same chip and within 2-3% of eachother in gaming benchmarks and productivity because zen 2 had almost no headroom for OCing.
 

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The 3080 Ti makes no sense if you have any kind of budget constraints (meaning, not being a millionaire) - if (in theory) you can get a 3080 at MSRP and a 3080 Ti at MSRP, why would ANYONE choose the 3080 Ti? 2 GB more VRAM, as if the 3080 was 'starving' for RAM - it's not. It's perfectly fine with 4K. And the additional CUDA cores - you're gonna get what? 5-10% more performance, maybe? As we know performance does not scale linearly with CUDA core count, so let's say an average of 7%. Sooo... $500 MORE on top of an MSRP of $700, for about 7% and 2 GB of VRAM? Is this a joke? Why would anyone in their right mind buy this???
 
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It's going to be fun watching the manufacturers set the the prices for these cards since most sell the 3070 for well over $600 and the 3080 for over $1000.
 
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