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So all for sudden 5% advantage is a big advantage? I think it all comes down to what games one plays the most aa those average numbers are very subjective and in most cases removing a game or two from the list might greatly change the average numbers
 

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#52
So all for sudden 5% advantage is a big advantage? I think it all comes down to what games one plays the most aa those average numbers are very subjective and in most cases removing a game or two from the list might greatly change the average numbers
5% ? are you comparing last-gen high-end to the newly released card? by that logic: gtx 690 vs. gtx 770
 

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#55
This part was well played... while that price astonishing! That said, what are they going to do with all GTX680 that are still priced the same today as they had yesterday?
Ah, the perennial every silver lining has a cloud argument trotted out once again. Feeling sorry for etailers, distros, and the IHV over the customer ? Don't be. Just like any other EOL'ed SKU's, they'll be shipped off to some third world/tier markets, or bought up and sold on eBay by people whose country of residence has either limited distribution of high-end graphics and/or horrendous import and customs tax (Yes, I live in one such country). Even with price cuts you’ll see that the cheapest GTX 680 is still ~ $US 550 thanks to a 15% goods and services tax and increased shipping costs.
even a "Top Shelf" Sapphire VaporX 7979Ghz 6Gb with Boost clocks:1050/1100MHz is $450.
I think you'll find the price is $100 more than that.
Talking of $100 discrepancies, how about a prediction for the 760 Ti. I think I’ve worked out a formula to find out the true launch price. Remove $100 from your estimate!
$500 for the GTX 770
$700-750 for the GTX 780
I see the bigger problem on Nvidia.
Unsurprising. You always see a bigger problem on Nvidia. If the company launch at a high point then they’re gouging the customer. If the company launch at the same price point as previously then they aren’t offering the customer any benefit. If the company launch at a low price they’re killing themselves , hurting middlemen, and devaluing the previous series for their owners. Classic no win.
 
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Ah, the perennial every silver lining has a cloud argument trotted out once again. Classic no win.
Glad you could finally chime in on this big occasion! True don't like rose colored glasses. And I must say I'm taken-a-back by this refreshing price reduction, why did they have to wait till now and not have something 6-8mo's ago?

Thank you, I did a big flub of a mistake on that Sapphire VaporX 7979Ghz 6Gb! Was considering the 3Gb and then though ended-up looking at the 6Gb, below should've discerned that was way-off-base, I sure wouldn't pay an extra $100 for 3Gb of extra ram.

Now I'd be saying the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot, perhaps there's way of pulling such inventories’ back as you suggest. While it's hard to know if Nvidia had been limiting inventories for the last months, perhaps why pricing held so firm. Mess with faith-full customer base is one thing... for those unhappy ones, someone else feels like they got the deal, although mess with E-tailers, business’s and they may hold a grudge as that's their money on sitting on those racks.
 
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#57
It's just the nature of the beast...

  • $1000 GTX 690/Titan OMGz think of the children!
  • $650 GTX 780 65% of the price almost all of the Titan performance, OMGz new tier.
  • Cheaper and faster GTX 770 OMGz think of the GTX 680 prices + insert random OpenCL benches.
 
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#58
The only reason people buy cards with slight performance gains (at the consequence of more power consumption) at these higher prices, with a "new generation", is because they are supported by the review community almost unanimously.
 
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#60
Nice review. Good performance for price.

Right now, it is around 420-430$ here in Canada, like 80$ more than a GTX 670 standar. So it is cheaper than the GTX 680... Hope there will be a huge price drop, cause the stock will stay xD
 
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#61
A 7970GE can OC much higher and you get free games. The only great thing about the 770 is the price, which is very nice!

I think it is best to pick a 7970GE over 770, only 3-5% performance difference, the games more than makes it up for the Radeon one.
 
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#62
It's just the nature of the beast...

  • $1000 GTX 690/Titan OMGz think of the children!
  • $650 GTX 780 65% of the price almost all of the Titan performance, OMGz new tier.
  • Cheaper and faster GTX 770 OMGz think of the GTX 680 prices + insert random OpenCL benches.
It could have also gone back to Fermi pricing. GTX 470 & 570 where introduced at $349.99 MSRP.

GTX 770 @ $399.99 no bundle
Radeon HD 7970 @ $399.99 w/ 4 games value $169.99 (AMD Tomb Raider - Level up / AMD Gift FARCRY3 Blood Dragon CRYSIS3 BIOSHOCK )
Radeon HD 7970 GHZ @ $449.99 w/ 4 games value $169.99 (AMD Tomb Raider - Level up / AMD Gift FARCRY3 Blood Dragon CRYSIS3 BIOSHOCK )


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Compared to the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, the primary concern for both NVIDIA and AMD, the GTX 770 doesn't change the story too dramatically. While it varies with some games, I often saw a pattern with the GTX 770 having a slight performance lead at 1920x1080 testing and then matching performance (or falling ever so slightly behind) at 2560x1440. I saw that occur in Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, Skyrim and Far Cry 3. In those cases though I also found that the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition with its 3GB frame buffer offered better performance at 5760x1080 triple-monitor configurations. In Sleeping Dogs and DiRT 3 though the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition was faster at all three resolutions and in the case of Sleeping Dogs, by quite a bit - 17%!
 
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GTX 770 @ $399.99 no bundle
Radeon HD 7970 @ $399.99 w/ 4 games value $169.99
Radeon HD 7970 GHZ @ $449.99 w/ 4 games value $169.99
False economy. The game bundles (as well as Nvidia's Metro Last Light coupon codes) are available on eBay for cents on the dollar.
The four games are actually worth $30-40
 
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How come it uses less power than the 680 if the TDP is 230W vs 195?
 
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#65
How come it uses less power than the 680 if the TDP is 230W vs 195?
Only thing i can think of is a reading while its throttling...


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We tested the power utilization at the wall of the entire system without a video card, and with each video card at idle and full load. For full load power and temperature testing we used real gaming, in this case every game we tested. The power supply used in testing is a Enermax MaxRevo 1350W. Our system is very lean with only one optical drive and one hard drive being powered. Total system wattage at idle without video card is 67W.

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Moving on to BF3 power consumption, we can see the power cost of GTX 770’s performance. 374W at the wall is only 18W more than GTX 680, thanks in part to the fact that GTX 770 isn’t hitting its TDP limit here. At the same time compared to the outgoing GTX 670, this is a 44W difference. This makes it very clear that GTX 770 is not a drop-in replacement for GTX 670 as far as power and cooling go. On the other hand GTX 770 and GTX 570 are very close, even if GTX 770’s TDP is technically a bit higher than GTX 570’s.
 
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#66
A 7970GE can OC much higher and you get free games. The only great thing about the 770 is the price, which is very nice!

I think it is best to pick a 7970GE over 770, only 3-5% performance difference, the games more than makes it up for the Radeon one.
nope, the 7970GE sounds like a jet engine on take off, and much higher temps/TDP, you can keep your 7970ge, no thanks.
 
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Rename this card to GTX760ti
 
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$170 bucks of joy right there. Expensive for AMD though :p
Shouldn't affect AMD too much- they should have sold a card for every coupon being sold. Just takes away the WOW! factor for marketing to others who might buy a card - although judging by the number of people on forums who attribute the full retail face value to the games makes me wonder how well some people investigate their prospective purchases.
Guys it's still a GK104!!!
Thanks for the heads-up. I think that information hadn't been confirmed until you said it.
 
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nope, the 7970GE sounds like a jet engine on take off, and much higher temps/TDP, you can keep your 7970ge, no thanks.
this is such a fail argument this whole jet engine crap, as if anyone will get the reference amd 7970.
Not to mention when I game with my 5.1 surround sound I hardly notice anything going on in the background let alone some gpu fan the. Its only a problem if its way too hot or noisy lik Fermi 400 seilries was when heating almost 100degrees celcius but that's far from the case now
I think the only reason these reviews me took sound and consumption is because they have to be objective and pretty much they will look for the slight difference to talk about it. Otherwise if u are an enthusiast and ur psu is less than 700w at the very least then ur not doing this right. And if u pay 500+ for a graphic card and r worries about an extra couple bux on ur electric bill then ur also not doing this right.
 
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#73
Not to mention most of these reviews are done on an open air test bench.

So there will be variances between whats reported in a review and actual use due to the variations of cases and setups, positioning to objects/walls and air-flow. Not to mention the distance to your seating position.

If your on Air only. I dont think you'll be too happy pumping 60C-80C inside your case for hours during gaming sessions.

Enthusiast can't be bothered with such non-sense.
 

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#74
the 7970GE sounds like a jet engine on take off, and much higher temps/TDP
My reference 6870 is loud as hell when the fan ramps up to 100%, but it almost never does that, and when it does it moves more air than any other cooler I've used. If it's too loud for you, change the fan profile and optimize the airflow in your case. There are things you can do to air cooling to make it not nearly as loud and still work perfectly fine.

Otherwise you can do what I do and just use noise cancelling headphones, in that case it doesn't really matter how loud the fans are, does it? :p
 
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#75
this is such a fail argument this whole jet engine crap, as if anyone will get the reference amd 7970.
Noise was half the reason I traded in my 7970 Lightnings for a pair of 780s. Even at undervolted stock clocks the top card had to sound like a wind turbine to keep the card below 85C. I just got sick of it.

For a single card I'm sure it would have been find but in crossfire it was just obnoxious.

GK104 would never tempt my wallet though... I really dislike this card and always have.