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#51
This chip begins its thermal throttling at 70c so the stock cooler just doesn't cut it for overclocking, even if you can't adjust voltage ;)

Watercooling is actually worth it!
Of course, i would buy a waterblock for this card, no personal fan setting by background software of any kind absolute, no worries about temps, dead silent operation.

Game on, game off just enjoy in every season of the year the 40 degrees temps of your card and the silence... This is basically what you get from a complete watercooling setup.
 
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#52
Here's a thought... could there still be a version below this? I mean it still seem there's going to be a gap from what is a GTX770 can bring and this 780. Could there be another GK110 gelding that they could spring with more aftermarket budget cooler and detuned clocks to sell at $550 and hold the 770's at $like a $475 MSRP?
 
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#53
Overall which one better Price/Performance Ratio:

Dual 7870 XT or GTX 780?

cuz in some review I found dual 7870 sligthly faster then GTX 780 or maybe default dual 7870 faster too than GTX 780.

and so far the price in my country for dual 7870 XT/LE about $500.
 
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#54
Here's a thought... could there still be a version below this? I mean it still seem there's going to be a gap from what is a GTX770 can bring and this 780. Could there be another GK110 gelding that they could spring with more aftermarket budget cooler and detuned clocks to sell at $550 and hold the 770's at $like a $475 MSRP?
I don't think so. My take is 770 within 15% of 780 (5% over the 7970HGz) at 450$.
 
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Meh, no voltage control renders a water block pretty useless. I really like the reference cooler on it anyways.
Card throttles at above 70 degrees. Mines would drop clocks to 900 ish after some gaming. Need more noise to keep fans effective. Under water my card runs 1100+ constant with fans on very low.

No it's more like two guy with impossible to tell apart Bugatti’s sitting in front of a hotel in downtown New York City. The valet says he's mixed up the identical looking keys. The valet say, "which does it matter they appear indistinguishable to me"? Then one guy makes a case that he paid $2,250,000 and his has a top speed 253.81 mph! The other snickers saying he paid $1,462,500 and could hit 228.42 mph!

Given the environment how can they prove who is who’s’...? The valet just walks away shaking his head! :ohwell:
I'm not really arguing but the point is still, despite how much you pay for the Titan, it's still the fastest single gpu in the world. And then again, as A couple of guys have said, if you use it for DP compute, there is no competition from 780.

Titan is priced this high because it has to be. It's an entry level compute card on one hand and a gaming superstar on the other. The GTX 780 is a gaming superstar alone. Ironically, the 7970 is also a compute superstar but now a lesser gaming card in comparison.

And one last time, like I've said months before, if you have the money and you want the product, buy it - it's why we have a free market.

Is it too expensive? (GTX Titan) - yes. Can I afford it - yes. Was i sick of crossfire glitches - yes. Did I want single gpu performance as high as possible? - yes - Buy Titan.

Now of course, you'd buy GTX 780. Titan as a gaming product is now irrelevant. GTX 780 is the obvious choice.
 
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#56
I just can't see the justification for this review. 14% gains plus high power consumption for over $200 more. This review can't be taken seriously in my mind.
 
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#57
Titan as a gaming product is now irrelevant.
Yes and no, 6GB VRAM is a must when playing with surround.

3GB just isn't enough anymore.
 

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#58
Yes and no, 6GB VRAM is a must when playing with surround.

3GB just isn't enough anymore.
According to this review the difference is anywhere from 2 to 9 fps in favor of 6gb of Vram... If anyone wants to make a judgement call off of that. :)
 

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#59
Is it too expensive? (GTX Titan) - yes. Can I afford it - yes. Was i sick of crossfire glitches - yes. Did I want single gpu performance as high as possible? - yes - Buy Titan.
exactly that course of logic is what makes you a titan customer. and a happy one.
 

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#60
Yes and no, 6GB VRAM is a must when playing with surround.

3GB just isn't enough anymore.
show me your data please.

my data (slightly old):


i dont doubt you can find edge cases where you need 6 gb, but then performance from a single titan would be too slow anyway. you can probably create edge cases of the edge cases where this is not the case. i claim these just exist to prove me wrong and serve no other purpose :D
 
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#61
I peaked well over 3,5GB on ugrids 9/11 and texture pack combined Skyrim.

Yes that's not a vanilla game, I get what you are trying to say ;)

EDIT: Also excuse me W1zzard but what kind of settings were run on that test? AA samples specifically? Thank you.
 
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#62
Why does Titan pull 45% ahead of the 780 on Crysis 3 at high resolution? Granted, none of those frame rates are usable ...
 
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#63
Ok the card is powerful but too expensive. I agree with many members here that the performance/value ratio is way off. Probably AMD will crush it when they release the 9 series and they will be equally expensive just to keep the competition going. I like this card a lot but sadly I will have to pass, my two GTX 670's can carry me rather well until the next generation to say the least but I also don't like multi monitor setups (although 4k, or super high resolution like 2560x1600 I really like but still havent gotten my new monitor) so I think this card would be wasted on me. I find it too expensive not because it cannot perform, that it has proven in spades but because I find these prices ludicrous and restrictive. I can do what this card can do with maybe 2x660ti's, 2x7870xt's for maybe 100 to 200 dollars less and I don't really care about most super high settings because after a certain point you can barely see the improvements. If you have the money for this and/or Titan then by all means go ahead but in the end the gaming experience wouldn't be affected that much although your bragging rights and benchmarking power would be greatly increased although true gamers don't care a lot about those things but be happy.
 

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#64
still quoting Crossfire fps

Its amazing to me after all the studies showing Crossfire fps numbers are crap because the
frames don't make it to the screen, you guys are still using 7990 numbers as if they are legit.
They are not.
From Tech Report: By the numbers, the 7990 appears to split with the 7970; one or the other comes out on top, depending. What you don't see in the numbers, though, is the herky-jerky motion that the 7990 produces, apparently as the result of some kind of CrossFire issue. We noted this problem with dual 7970s in our Titan review months ago, and AMD hasn't fixed it yet.
When they do fix it, then the fps numbers will be worth publishing.
 

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#65
This chip begins its thermal throttling at 70c so the stock cooler just doesn't cut it for overclocking, even if you can't adjust voltage ;)

Watercooling is actually worth it!
80c actually. Which is higher overhead then like the 680 which has a limit of 70c till it starts to throttle.
 
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#66
Just wondering for real usage in REAL WORLD does 70 fps vs 200 fps, is the 200 fps player always win in Game Tournament example WOW?

Seem like Nvidia NEW card getting expensive year by year, however the mainstream of gamers are on the budget section. I wanna buy 690 but due to price diff im settling with 7970 Ghz ed which is 1/3 of the 690 price in my country.
 
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so the supposed to be GTX 670 is now released D:
 

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#68
I peaked well over 3,5GB on ugrids 9/11 and texture pack combined Skyrim.

Yes that's not a vanilla game, I get what you are trying to say ;)

EDIT: Also excuse me W1zzard but what kind of settings were run on that test? AA samples specifically? Thank you.
That's Skyrim and texture packs are uncompressed. Use the Texture Optimizer to compress them and watch the vram usage drop in nearly half depending on what format you use for compression, and the image quality of the textures will barely change. Itll still look great. :toast:

Its amazing to me after all the studies showing Crossfire fps numbers are crap because the
frames don't make it to the screen, you guys are still using 7990 numbers as if they are legit.
They are not.
From Tech Report: By the numbers, the 7990 appears to split with the 7970; one or the other comes out on top, depending. What you don't see in the numbers, though, is the herky-jerky motion that the 7990 produces, apparently as the result of some kind of CrossFire issue. We noted this problem with dual 7970s in our Titan review months ago, and AMD hasn't fixed it yet.
When they do fix it, then the fps numbers will be worth publishing.
You are really tell possibly the best graphics card reviewer that his results are crap??? He has kind of set the bar in my eyes as to how good reviews should be done.

We all know about crossfire issues, but till AMD releases the magic driver to fix the frame latency issue, what else can a GPU reviewer do???? Take the results we currently have for what they are worth.
 

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Its definitely a good upgrade for those with 5 series cards that sat out the 6 series. It is crap that compute is indeed artificially restricted on the card, but thats where Titan comes in.
 

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Its definitely a good upgrade for those with 5 series cards that sat out the 6 series. It is crap that compute is indeed artificially restricted on the card, but thats where Titan comes in.
jesus are you putting a 780 in an ITX build?
 

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I have the Node 304, Prodigy, and the Corsair 350D (mATX). I will likely tear down the i7 Prodigy and move into the 350D while switching to the Z77 Extreme 4 M, Kraken X60, and Seasonic X750 PSU.

The build quality on the Prodigy is too poor for me to keep it any longer. I can throw the card into the APU setup in my Node if anyone is interested in what it looks like shoehorned into a true SFF mITX case.
 

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I have the Node 304, Prodigy, and the Corsair 350D (mATX). I will likely tear down the i7 Prodigy and move into the 350D while switching to the Z77 Extreme 4 M, Kraken X60, and Seasonic X750 PSU.

The build quality on the Prodigy is too poor for me to keep it any longer. I can throw the card into the APU setup in my Node if anyone is interested in what it looks like shoehorned into a true SFF mITX case.
Yeah, I want to get that Node 304 for my file server.
 

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Yeah, I want to get that Node 304 for my file server.
Me too... I'm just waiting for a miniITX board that has good to excellent onboard sound. Can't use a sound card with a video card in the way.
 
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Waiting for next architecture, same way i did with my GTX460 is what i will do with the GTX670 and is what i did with the 9800GT.

For GPUs i will be buying new architecture and not refresh whenever i can but things have a funny way of changing at times.
 
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Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150 > Creative Gigaworks T40 > AKG Q701
Power Supply Thermaltake 600w 140mm
Mouse Logitech G900
Keyboard Ducky Shine TKL MX Blue + Vortex PBT Doubleshots
Software Windows 10 64bit
Benchmark Scores http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12108888
#75
Awesome card! Your turn AMD. We need lower prices :D
 
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