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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Founders Edition

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GeForce RTX 2070 is NVIDIA's most affordable RTX-capable graphics card today. We ran it through 23 games at three resolutions, and the performance results are encouraging. The card sits right between the GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti, with pricing lower than for the GTX 1080 Ti, and you get all the new features, like DLSS and RTX.

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:fear:that Power connector. called it. Just like the one found in 1060 fe.
 
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Great review as always :toast:. Peak and average power consumption numbers are probably reversed.
 
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Nice card, AIB customs are going for £459 here, no wonder they are selling out fast, Vega 64 and the GTX 1080 Ti need a price cut.
 
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The FE model is too pricey, and personally I think Nvidia should stop making them due to the negative response.

The base model RTX 2070 is a good buy though, at $500 it offers slightly better performance than GTX 1080. Still, if they could cut another $50 it would be very well priced.
 
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Would Nvidia Inspector's Multi display power saver bring the power consumption down?
 

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This is only review i see 2070 15% faster than GTX1080 and only 10% behind 1080TI(1440p).Techspot find out 2070 only 7% average faster than 1080 and 1080TI just wipes the floor with 2070.But they used AIB cards and not crap FE coolers on pascal.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1727-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070/

Edit:2070 20% faster than 1080 in 4k really?Sorry but your results are way off.
 
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This is only review i see 2070 15% faster than GTX1080 and only 10% behind 1080TI(1440p).Techspot find out 2070 only 7% average faster than 1080 and 1080TI just wipes the floor with 2070.But they used AIB cards and not crap FE coolers on pascal.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1727-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070/

Edit:2070 20% faster than 1080 in 4k really?Sorry but your results are way off.
Techspot compared factory overclocked 1080, 1080 Ti vs a reference clock 2070.

Quote below from Techspot review...

For all the testing we're using the MSI RTX 2070 Armor and it will be compared to the FE versions of the 2080 Ti and 2080 along with MSI Gaming X versions of the 1080, 1070 Ti and 1070 as well as the Gaming X Trio 1080 Ti. Then we have the Asus Strix Vega 56 and 64 models along with AMD’s Vega 64 Liquid.
2070 memory bandwidth is a bit higher than 1080, that helps it at 4K.
 

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Techspot compared factory overclocked 1080, 1080 Ti vs a reference clock 2070.

Quote below from Techspot review...
2070 and 1080 were both AIB cards.Still i didnt see single review where 2070 was 15% faster than 1080 in 1440p and 20% faster in 4k.And i read like 20 of them.
 
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for $500 - $575 you can get a 1080ti and by the time DLSS is in standard in games and really making a big difference the next gen of cards will be out.
The same argument have been made every generational change as the price of the previous version dropped. Those prices are not going to last.

How is this even relevant? A used card for this price?
By this logic a used card will always be superior.

A card under heavy load may have ~3 years of usable life. If you buy something that's e.g. 1.5 years old, you should consider that 1.5 years of its life span is already spent. In addition there is the risk of mistreated cards for OC or mining. I wouldn't spent more than ~$200 for a used card, since the buyer takes all the risk.
 

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1080Ti is much worse, it is like GTX780 Ti compared to GTX1060 in async compute vulkan and such. And will slow down much faster in the future and in case Dlss is enabled on 2070 no performance hit, some 2x Aa on 1080Ti with performance hit.
 
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for $500 - $575 you can get a 1080ti and by the time DLSS is in standard in games and really making a big difference the next gen of cards will be out.

Here's one for $455
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aorus-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-Graphics-Card/153219827172?hash=item23ac9d05e4:g:I8cAAOSwSc1bw-MN

to me the 2070 looks to be the worst of the bunch - least likely to be able to use RTX in reality and outperformed by cheaper alternatives.
THIS

Ive been saying this all along. It has never been a greater time to pick up a pre-owned 1080Ti and people have been dumping them like mad on ebay. By the time Ray Tracing is really a thing to worry about. the 1080Ti would absolutely be old news. Until the industry adopts Ray Tracing. I might even go 1080Ti SLi for fun, Its bound to be a year or two before they manage to pay some studio to adopt it.
 
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Asus need to calm their chops. The cheapest few cards (including an MSI Armor card are about £460. The top end Asus Strix RGB GBH LOL STFU model is £660. £200 more than the entry models. I mean, seriously?
 
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Thank you for purchasing the card to give us the review. I am surprised NVIDIA didn’t sample TPU. I will consider the pateron support.
 

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8GB VRAM is extremely disappointing on 2080 and 2070.
Next gen consoles are almost around the corner and VRAM requirements will be quite a bit higher in a few years.
You can't use ultra textures on a GTX 980 in many new titles and I think that will be the case for 2070 and 2080 too within a few years.
I can't convince myself to pay 800+ dollars for an eight gigabye card in 2018.
Waiting for Nvidia's Next gen cards.
 
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I am surprised NVIDIA didn’t sample TPU
None of the German tech press got a FE. Only a very small number of US sites got a FE from NVIDIA
 
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8GB VRAM is extremely disappointing on 2080 and 2070.
Next gen consoles are almost around the corner and VRAM requirements will be quite a bit higher in a few years.
You can't use ultra textures on a GTX 980 in many new titles and I think that will be the case for 2070 and 2080 too within a few years.
I can't convince myself to pay 800+ dollars for an eight gigabye card in 2018.
Waiting for Nvidia's Next gen cards.
Two years out is around the corner?
 
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With the 2080 possibly not quite fast to pull off RTX in games, how will this do? We seriously need some way to measure the performance of this card's main selling feature...
 
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8GB VRAM is extremely disappointing on 2080 and 2070.
Next gen consoles are almost around the corner and VRAM requirements will be quite a bit higher in a few years.
You can't use ultra textures on a GTX 980 in many new titles and I think that will be the case for 2070 and 2080 too within a few years.
I can't convince myself to pay 800+ dollars for an eight gigabye card in 2018.
Waiting for Nvidia's Next gen cards.
I agree, at 1080p I am actually running into my VRAM limit in two games I play a lot. Far Cry 5 and Fallout 4 both with HD texture packs installed. In FC5 with HBCC enabled I am seeing up to 11GB committed... This is on a Vega 56. So my next card will have to have a lot more VRAM than 8GB.

-waiting for next-gen Radeon with 16GB HBM2- :love:
 

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The same argument have been made every generational change as the price of the previous version dropped. Those prices are not going to last.


How is this even relevant? A used card for this price?
By this logic a used card will always be superior.

A card under heavy load may have ~3 years of usable life. If you buy something that's e.g. 1.5 years old, you should consider that 1.5 years of its life span is already spent. In addition there is the risk of mistreated cards for OC or mining. I wouldn't spent more than ~$200 for a used card, since the buyer takes all the risk.
You can get a new one for $550 (which is still cheaper than a 2070 is going for now) ..but ive had used cards last way more than 3 years so... not sure where you're getting that stat.

Also this wasnt the case last generation where a 1070 was faster and cheaper than a 980ti... so also not sure where you're getting "The same argument have been made every generational change". Because that's definitely not true - at least not for GPUs... It was true for Intel's Sandy/Ivy/Haswell/Skylake releases ~ mostly becuase they were incremental and expensive for no reason (much like this).
 
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Terrible prices.
Terrible launch.
 
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Sad state of affairs when second hand Nvidia cards are the only competiton for... Nvidia cards.

But then the 2070 is cheaper than Vega 64 here. Intel... please help!
 
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