NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition

Fluffmeister · Sep 18, 2020

WeeRab said:
Does it all matter?
After all...No one can actually buy the thing.
It's all marketing hype at the moment...and I can guarantee it will never be available for £649 - EVER.

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gridracedriver · Sep 18, 2020

Stefem said:
You are still not fully reading the chart, the 3080 is at the end of the green line at 320W, you extrapolated 1.5x perf/W at the same power as a 2080 Super but to validate this you have to lower the power target of the 3080 and test with Control at 4K.
As with prior architectures you gain lots of efficiency just by lowering the power target, if you don't want to create a custom voltage/frequency curve, an RTX 2080 Ti at the same power as a GTX 1080 is faster than a 1080 Ti at 280W just to give you a picture, Pascal behave similarly too.

it is you who does not look well at the graph, if we extended the Turing line to 320watt the perf / watt with Ampere would be even higher than 1.5x
they're lying to you, get over it!

Valantar · Sep 18, 2020

gridracedriver said:
it is you who does not look well at the graph, if we extended the Turing line to 320watt the perf / watt with Ampere would be even higher than 1.5x
they're lying to you, get over it!

The problem there? Good luck getting a 2080/2080 Super to consume 320W without running exotic cooling. At that point you'd be pushing clocks so high that you would be seriously skewing any comparison. Both comparisons in the annotated graph above are more or less reasonable as in they are power draw and performance combos that are reachable with existing silicon without exotic cooling or other modifications, a standard that a theoretical 320W 2080/S fails to meet. The 1.9x number is less reasonable than the 1.5x one though, as we will never, ever see a GA102 chip running at that low power. Or, you know, maybe we will if Nvidia goes absolutely mental for their mobile chips this time around. But not on the desktop.

efikkan · Sep 18, 2020

WeeRab said:
Does it all matter?
After all...No one can actually buy the thing.
It's all marketing hype at the moment...and I can guarantee it will never be available for £649 - EVER.

Just because demand is greater than the supply doesn't mean no one can buy it, nor does it tell how many are shipping.

For the last couple of releases, short supplies has been the norm. Most of you have forgotten it now, but both GTX 1080 and RTX 2080 moved record volumes in their first quarter despite being "sold out" for 2-3 months. Other cards like Vega 56/64 were mostly sold out for over a year, long after the mining mania, and still barely managed to show up in statistics like the Steam hardware survey, so they didn't sell many cards at all.

Despite the rumor that the MSRP was just to trick people, even stores like Newegg have at least four partner cards at $699 (out of stock of course).
If you look around, you can probably find one that lets you put one on backorder at MSRP. I found several in my country, you can probably find some in yours too.

Don't be tempted to buy one at an inflated price. Put one on backorder or wait, you will get one eventually.

Flanker · Sep 18, 2020

After reading the reviews of custom AIB versions, looks like the performance of the exotic looking FE cooler isn't all that special.

londiste · Sep 18, 2020

Flanker said:
After reading the reviews of custom AIB versions, looks like the performance of the exotic looking FE cooler isn't all that special.

How many of the AIB cards are dual-slot?

Athlonite · Sep 18, 2020

londiste said:
How many of the AIB cards are dual-slot?

As far as I know none are dual slot they're all triple slot solutions

Valantar · Sep 18, 2020

Athlonite said:
As far as I know none are dual slot they're all triple slot solutions

True, though most would claim they are "2.x slot", which doesn't make much of a difference. It matters in SFF builds though, where a 2.25 or 2.5 slot card might fit but not a 2.75 or 3-slot one.

Deleted member 24505 · Sep 18, 2020

any card that is 2.1+ may as well be classed as 3, as it will still nigh on take 3 slots

Valantar · Sep 18, 2020

tigger said:
any card that is 2.1+ may as well be classed as 3, as it will still nigh on take 3 slots

Yes, as I said, it

Valantar said:
doesn't make much of a difference

outside of SFF builds. Anything exceeding 2 slots obviously blocks access to the third PCIe slot.

Deleted member 24505 · Sep 18, 2020

Valantar said:
Yes, as I said, it

outside of SFF builds. Anything exceeding 2 slots obviously blocks access to the third PCIe slot.

except i simplified it. any 2.x slot card may as well be three. you was babbling about 2.25/2.75 whatever the eff they are. Any card over 2 slots is a 3 slot card. simple

Bubster · Sep 18, 2020

i Have been a 4k gamer only for more than 3 years and the rtx 3080 has plenty of advantages as RTX io and Broadcast for streamers DLSS2 and RTX on for better Image quality we don't know by how much yet we need to see more footage and to know for sure ....RTX has been a gimmick in the last 2 years (Remember BF5 fiasco in RTX launch) we'll see if Nvidia really has made it worthy...3090 on the hand is every good boy's dream come true hopefully it gets cheaper later...

Stefem · Sep 18, 2020

gridracedriver said:
it is you who does not look well at the graph, if we extended the Turing line to 320watt the perf / watt with Ampere would be even higher than 1.5x
they're lying to you, get over it!

Oh really? Maybe your math skills are really worse than your drawing one but you don't need more, just extend the line like you did earlier... even ignoring the leveling and drop that happen when you keep increasing the power are you seriously suggesting that Turing line on the graph would be like that or "even higher" to quote you?
Maybe in your fantasy world where actual physical laws don't apply...

xorbe · Sep 18, 2020

^^ that graph doesn't represent what I saw in the TPU review ...

Valantar · Sep 18, 2020

tigger said:
except i simplified it. any 2.x slot card may as well be three. you was babbling about 2.25/2.75 whatever the eff they are. Any card over 2 slots is a 3 slot card. simple

...except when it isn't, such as SFF cases with limited space. So yes, in terms of ATX and mATX cases and slot availability, you are right, but in ITX cases where GPU space is at a premium, the difference between 2.5 and 2.75 slots could be the difference between fitting your side panel on or not.

lexluthermiester · Sep 19, 2020

mouacyk said:
You seem to have missed the fundamentals that Micron is only producing 8Gb and 16Gb chips, for use with 32-bit memory controllers, of which the 3080 has 10 enabled of the 12 total. Hence, we got 10GB, and may possibly get 20GB in a future refresh.

And we have an answer;

NVIDIA Readies RTX 3060 8GB and RTX 3080 20GB Models

A GIGABYTE webpage meant for redeeming the RTX 30-series Watch Dogs Legion + GeForce NOW bundle, lists out eligible graphics cards for the offer, including a large selection of those based on unannounced RTX 30-series GPUs. Among these are references to a "GeForce RTX 3060" with 8 GB of memory...

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medi01 · Sep 19, 2020

Assimilator said:
4K RTX

Assimilator said:
still requires DLSS to get there

Assimilator said:
true 4K

Amazing stuff.
Could you please stop calling upscaled images "4k"?

Auer · Sep 19, 2020

medi01 said:
Amazing stuff.
Could you please stop calling upscaled images "4k"?

I would call it "Better than 4K"

the54thvoid · Sep 19, 2020

I used the DLSS setting on the new Control DLC at 1440 native. It set the resolution at something weird (960?) In game, I genuinely couldn't see any diff. It looked like 1440p. It's very impressive.

Calmmo · Sep 20, 2020

hmmm..
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZOTAC/comments/iv4j17

lexluthermiester · Sep 20, 2020

Calmmo said:
hmmm..
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZOTAC/comments/iv4j17

Can you please post information that has more credibility? Some random user on Reddit does not qualify.

claes · Sep 21, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
Can you please post information that has more credibility? Some random user on Reddit does not qualify.

Their American sales rep seems to offer credibility

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZOTAC/comments/iv4j17/_/g5q82zr

lexluthermiester · Sep 21, 2020

claes said:
Their American sales rep seems to offer credibility

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZOTAC/comments/iv4j17/_/g5q82zr

Fair enough. Not very surprising though. We're talking about base clocks. 1% - 3% is not much to whine about let alone make a mountain out of molehill over, especially when you can use a utility to OC and get that back plus more.

Caring1 · Sep 21, 2020

claes said:
Their American sales rep seems to offer credibility

Hmm, should I listen to people with technical credibility, or ask a sales rep? :roll:

R-T-B · Sep 21, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
Can you please post information that has more credibility? Some random user on Reddit does not qualify.

No random user anywhere qualifies. You need uh... qualifications. Paper or otherwise. Hard to find but very useful in debates to use people that have those. 10/10, would recommend.

Caring1 said:
Hmm, should I listen to people with technical credibility, or ask a sales rep?

Depends, are you looking at getting a job in sales, or asking technical questions about computer parts?

Depending on your answer, one may be more suitable than the other.

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