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Does it all matter?
After all...No one can actually buy the thing.
It's all marketing hype at the moment...and I can guarantee it will never be available for £649 - EVER.

Pre order now, they will honour it:

 
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You are still not fully reading the chart, the 3080 is at the end of the green line at 320W, you extrapolated 1.5x perf/W at the same power as a 2080 Super but to validate this you have to lower the power target of the 3080 and test with Control at 4K.
As with prior architectures you gain lots of efficiency just by lowering the power target, if you don't want to create a custom voltage/frequency curve, an RTX 2080 Ti at the same power as a GTX 1080 is faster than a 1080 Ti at 280W just to give you a picture, Pascal behave similarly too.
it is you who does not look well at the graph, if we extended the Turing line to 320watt the perf / watt with Ampere would be even higher than 1.5x
they're lying to you, get over it!
 
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it is you who does not look well at the graph, if we extended the Turing line to 320watt the perf / watt with Ampere would be even higher than 1.5x
they're lying to you, get over it!
The problem there? Good luck getting a 2080/2080 Super to consume 320W without running exotic cooling. At that point you'd be pushing clocks so high that you would be seriously skewing any comparison. Both comparisons in the annotated graph above are more or less reasonable as in they are power draw and performance combos that are reachable with existing silicon without exotic cooling or other modifications, a standard that a theoretical 320W 2080/S fails to meet. The 1.9x number is less reasonable than the 1.5x one though, as we will never, ever see a GA102 chip running at that low power. Or, you know, maybe we will if Nvidia goes absolutely mental for their mobile chips this time around. But not on the desktop.
 
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Does it all matter?
After all...No one can actually buy the thing.
It's all marketing hype at the moment...and I can guarantee it will never be available for £649 - EVER.
Just because demand is greater than the supply doesn't mean no one can buy it, nor does it tell how many are shipping.

For the last couple of releases, short supplies has been the norm. Most of you have forgotten it now, but both GTX 1080 and RTX 2080 moved record volumes in their first quarter despite being "sold out" for 2-3 months. Other cards like Vega 56/64 were mostly sold out for over a year, long after the mining mania, and still barely managed to show up in statistics like the Steam hardware survey, so they didn't sell many cards at all.

Despite the rumor that the MSRP was just to trick people, even stores like Newegg have at least four partner cards at $699 (out of stock of course).
If you look around, you can probably find one that lets you put one on backorder at MSRP. I found several in my country, you can probably find some in yours too.

Don't be tempted to buy one at an inflated price. Put one on backorder or wait, you will get one eventually.
 
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After reading the reviews of custom AIB versions, looks like the performance of the exotic looking FE cooler isn't all that special.
 
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After reading the reviews of custom AIB versions, looks like the performance of the exotic looking FE cooler isn't all that special.
How many of the AIB cards are dual-slot? :)
 
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As far as I know none are dual slot they're all triple slot solutions
True, though most would claim they are "2.x slot", which doesn't make much of a difference. It matters in SFF builds though, where a 2.25 or 2.5 slot card might fit but not a 2.75 or 3-slot one.
 
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any card that is 2.1+ may as well be classed as 3, as it will still nigh on take 3 slots
 
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any card that is 2.1+ may as well be classed as 3, as it will still nigh on take 3 slots
Yes, as I said, it
doesn't make much of a difference
outside of SFF builds. Anything exceeding 2 slots obviously blocks access to the third PCIe slot.
 
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Yes, as I said, it

outside of SFF builds. Anything exceeding 2 slots obviously blocks access to the third PCIe slot.

except i simplified it. any 2.x slot card may as well be three. you was babbling about 2.25/2.75 whatever the eff they are. Any card over 2 slots is a 3 slot card. simple
 
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i Have been a 4k gamer only for more than 3 years and the rtx 3080 has plenty of advantages as RTX io and Broadcast for streamers DLSS2 and RTX on for better Image quality we don't know by how much yet we need to see more footage and to know for sure ....RTX has been a gimmick in the last 2 years (Remember BF5 fiasco in RTX launch) we'll see if Nvidia really has made it worthy...3090 on the hand is every good boy's dream come true hopefully it gets cheaper later...
 

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it is you who does not look well at the graph, if we extended the Turing line to 320watt the perf / watt with Ampere would be even higher than 1.5x
they're lying to you, get over it!
Oh really? Maybe your math skills are really worse than your drawing one but you don't need more, just extend the line like you did earlier... even ignoring the leveling and drop that happen when you keep increasing the power are you seriously suggesting that Turing line on the graph would be like that or "even higher" to quote you?
Maybe in your fantasy world where actual physical laws don't apply...
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^^ that graph doesn't represent what I saw in the TPU review ...
 
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except i simplified it. any 2.x slot card may as well be three. you was babbling about 2.25/2.75 whatever the eff they are. Any card over 2 slots is a 3 slot card. simple
...except when it isn't, such as SFF cases with limited space. So yes, in terms of ATX and mATX cases and slot availability, you are right, but in ITX cases where GPU space is at a premium, the difference between 2.5 and 2.75 slots could be the difference between fitting your side panel on or not.
 
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You seem to have missed the fundamentals that Micron is only producing 8Gb and 16Gb chips, for use with 32-bit memory controllers, of which the 3080 has 10 enabled of the 12 total. Hence, we got 10GB, and may possibly get 20GB in a future refresh.
And we have an answer;
 
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I used the DLSS setting on the new Control DLC at 1440 native. It set the resolution at something weird (960?) In game, I genuinely couldn't see any diff. It looked like 1440p. It's very impressive.
 
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Their American sales rep seems to offer credibility
Hmm, should I listen to people with technical credibility, or ask a sales rep? :roll:
 
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Can you please post information that has more credibility? Some random user on Reddit does not qualify.

No random user anywhere qualifies. You need uh... qualifications. Paper or otherwise. Hard to find but very useful in debates to use people that have those. 10/10, would recommend.

Hmm, should I listen to people with technical credibility, or ask a sales rep? :roll:

Depends, are you looking at getting a job in sales, or asking technical questions about computer parts?

Depending on your answer, one may be more suitable than the other.
 
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