NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition

[ZoneDymo]

That power consumption is extremely disappointing and makes me really not respect this product sadly.

AFAIK nvidia only mention 2080 vs 3080. in jensen presentation not even once he said 3080 will be x faster than 2080Ti.

preeeeeetty sure he claimed the 3070 would be better then the 2080Ti...

 

[xkm1948]

Excel + VBA

Classy~

With your amazing programming skills and data presentation you would land a fantastic paying job in bioinformatics.

 

[W1zzard]

and data presentation

Thanks, really appreciated. I always try to do my best to present data in a way that's still understandable for the more average reader.

 

[P4-630]

Now waiting for reviews of the Asus 3080 STRIX and the MSI 3080 Gaming X trio....

 

[TheGuruStud]

Hahahahha. Oh, man. Poor 2080ti owners that dumped cards for nothing. Simple OC brings it to same perf.

 

[steen]

Rather the only solution I can think of is to record power during all testing in all games, to get the proper power average. Not something I'm able to do at the moment.

That was kinda the point of PCAT & FrameView. Nvidia were concerned that when testing @ high frame rates & DLSS, the increased load on the CPU esp CFL/CML would scare buyers when only total system power draw was reported.

Overall, 3080 looks pushed a bit over the efficiency of the process.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

Oh Happy Day! You buy GPU and get a 370W room heater for free. It's mid September and we're still hitting +30C temperatures outside in central Europe. No way would I game with 320-370W GPU during such conditions. 3080 screams for Tsmc's 7nm EUV node, maybe RDNA2 can surprise?

 

[xkm1948]

Can I ask when can I expect 3090 review?

 

[phill]

Thank you @W1zzard for such an in depth and amazing review, as always!!

I can see by the majority of the games in the test suite that my 1080 Ti seems to be around 50% slower than the 3080, which to be honest, isn't so disappointing but now all I need to do is wait to find my prefered card and cooler, buy it and then be happy for a few weeks until the credit card bill comes through...

The card is impressive, the stats do speak well. It does go to show that such a high end GPU does get warm and takes the juice, but we are all enthisuasts so, does it really matter if your getting the performance you want in the games you play? To me, no. Slap a water block on this bad boy and away we go That said, I'm going to be very interested in seeing the 3090 review as that supports SLI and I have a big case that needs filling up so it might be worth a look at the reviews just to see what the differences are. What's so disppointing with that card, is that it's nearly 3 months mortgage payments... Still, for those that wish to have the power and so on.....

Thank you @W1zzard again, awesome work Looking forward to the Strix, Gaming X Trio and FTW card reviews, just like @P4-630

 

[EarthDog]

Hahahahha. Oh, man. Poor 2080ti owners that dumped cards for nothing. Simple OC brings it to same perf.

I'd love to see ANY 2080Ti run 25% faster with a ambient cooled overclock..........

 

[phill]

Can I ask when can I expect 3090 review?

Isn't that one in a weeks time??

 

[W1zzard]

Now waiting for reviews of the Asus 3080 STRIX and the MSI 3080 Gaming X trio....

Can I ask when can I expect 3090 review?

Soon

 

[Vayra86]

Thanks, really appreciated. I always try to do my best to present data in a way that's still understandable for the more average reader.

You nailed it. Fantastic work all the way through. The background info and the data.

This is making me very curious where the 3070 might end up. I find the gap with 2080ti... okay, but not jaw dropping, and the gap with 3090 won't be either given the shader difference. Its still a good generational jump though. But not Pascal-esque, which I did kind of expect. I think the RT weight is killing that vibe, and perhaps the node. Very curious as well what RDNA2 will do now.

 

[Vya Domus]

Isn't it exactly a good example for that reason? Assuming similar progress we'll be on 10K resolution in the future, yet the current cards will still be fine for 4K

I don't think it is because we already "took the hit" of rendering at that resolution long ago.

However, assets and effects haven't exactly been crated with the thought of 4K rendering up until very recently. As you probably know, many engines employ things such as rendering certain effects at half/quarter resolutions and so on but when they inventively get scaled up because of the more memory and processing power available so will the memory requirements.

 

[xkm1948]

Isn't that one in a weeks time??

My body is ready for a 3090FE

 

[W1zzard]

As you probably know, many engines employ things such as rendering certain effects at half/quarter resolutions and so on but when they inventively get scaled up because of the more memory and processing power available so will the memory requirements.

Exactly, but no reason they get scaled up linearly, especially with pixel sizes going down due to higher resolution. Looks like we're having very similar thoughts and arguments, and just draw different conclusions from it guess we'll know in a few years

 

[biggermesh]

That's a strange way to think about it, if it is possible to exceed that amount then it inevitably becomes a limitation.

Not really, it depends on how the streaming is implemented. Some games fill the vram no matter the amount, what matters is the portion of the assets actually used at any given time.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

Soon

Adding Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 as a benchmark into the review would be Awesome. It's "but can it play "Crisis"" kind of game in 2020

 

[W1zzard]

Adding Microsoft Flight Simulator as a benchmark into the review would ne Awesome.

Thought about it, decided against it. Old DX11 engine, badly designed, badly optimized, not a proper simulator, small playerbase. When they add DX12 I might reconsider it

 

[renz496]

That power consumption is extremely disappointing and makes me really not respect this product sadly.



preeeeeetty sure he claimed the 3070 would be better then the 2080Ti...

yeah i remember jensen saying that 3070 will be better than 2080Ti. but i'm replying to the post saying nvidia promise that 3080 will be better than 2080Ti by certain amount. jensen never said those. he only talk how 3080 will be double the performance from 2080 (we know the truth now with this review).

 

[dayne878]

I'm glad to see it has significant performance gains at 1440p over the 2080ti. I game on a 1440p 144hz Asus ROG monitor with G-Sync and so I was happy to see that the 3080 brings the average frame rate up significantly closer to 144 fps. My CPU is 10700K.

I'll be getting it, either the FE or from another brand, and then I'll sell my 2080ti at a significant price hit (lucky if I get $400 for it probably) and eat the difference between the 3080 and the 2080ti sell price (~$400 assuming I get a 3080 for $800 or less and the 2080ti sells for $400).

There's also the chance that I'll upgrade to a 4k monitor in the future, so this gives me more "future-proofing."

The only hesitance I have is that I've heard rumors of the 3070ti (and the presumed existence of a 3080ti down the road), with far more VRAM. But I don't want to wait on hypothetical cards that might not be out for awhile, and if they do come out I expect the 3080 will keep its resale value for awhile and I could always sell it and buy the 3080ti down the road (like 1+ years from now).

 

[Cheeseball]

I don't see why the power consumption is that surprising if you look at the specs. Sure its on 8nm now, but thats coming from 12nm. Not a huge jump like 980 Ti's 28 nm to 1080 Ti's 16nm like before. Same thing with 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti.

And that fact that they practically doubled the shader units from the 2080 Ti (not the 2080 Super, mind you) along with 8 more ROPs and RT/Tensor cores. I was realistically expecting this thing to exceed 300W.

EDIT: In addition, I expect the RTX 3070 to beat the RTX 2080 Super, but be slightly below the RTX 2080 Ti. The 2080 Ti still has a huge chunk of ROPs (88 vs 64) to its advantage.

 

[renz496]

and now waiting for more mainstream card release......

 

[Testsubject01]

Don't underestimate people's unwillingness to leave 1080p behind!

Well, I wouldn't completely mark it down to unwillingness.
Getting a PC + Display to enjoy all the bells and whistle settings you had on 1080p at resolutions of 1440p @120+ or 2160 @60 without selling organs, just started to get feasible now.


Let's hope RDN2 delivers as well in October and this trend continues.

 

[Frick]

Better than I thought, and now I'm hoping to snag a cheap 1070.