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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 with AMD Ryzen 3900XT vs. Intel Core i9-10900K

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What's the best processor for NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 3080? The AMD Ryzen 3900 XT or Intel Core i9-10900K? We dedicate a whole performance review to that question, with 23 games, each tested at 1080p Full HD, 1440p, and 4K Ultra HD.

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What we needed to know, Intel has roughly a 10% lead (it obviously varies between the different CPUs) but the higher the res, the less it matters.
 
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Nothing surprising here. When Turing release it had an improved scheduler which worked better with Zen 1 and Zen+ (and Core!) CPUs than what Pascal had. Nvidia likely tweaked it more with Ampere too.

It is not a simple "X GPU is faster than Y GPU which is bottlenecked with A CPU, therefor bottleneck!1" and it never was. I do not understand why people think like that.
 
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What about mid tier cpus on 4k?
 
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I would love to see more advanced graphics review than just plain average fps.
In 2020, such reviews should include at the minimum, the minimum fps, but preferable frametime consistency graphs, even if this means testing with lower number of games.

Nobody selling a kidney to buy such hardware cares about average fps only, but about the overal gaming experience, and stuttering which is not visible on average fps is a very big part of that gaming experience.

I'd take any day 60 fps with smooth consistent frames, than 90 fps with lots of micro stutters.
 
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I do wonder what Anno 1800 does differently to be framelocked on Ryzen?

Otherwise, both CPUs scale down into 1080p and up to 4k. The 3080 GPU looks incredibly strong.
 
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3733 19-23-23-42? Is that the infamous bad bin B-die? :D
I wonder whether using something that can run 3733 at 14-15-15-something would change anything tho.
 

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According to Gamersnexus Ryzens at the very least do scale somewhat with better CL timings (so does Intel tho, iirc) - I mean, it'd all be an academic discussion at this point basically, but if you do own a B-die kit that can run 3733-C14, it'd be an interesting academic insight at the very least :)
 
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Damn, Anno and a couple others really don't like Ryzen...
 
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I’ve said this before. Zen2 is too slow for Ampere. Probably too slow for Big Navi as well. Now at 1440p and sometimes 4k. XD
 
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Yup and all those expecting miracles with Zen3 are in for a bitter disappointment as well - I mean yes, it will probably (finally!) come close, but Skylake will still be on top, definitely at least 8700k from 3 years ago, but in many games 7700k just as well and probably even 6700k from over 5 years ago. No matter how you spin it, that's NOT impressive (at all to be honest)
 
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The mighty pci-e 4.0 the most useless schtick ever created. And people were going but it's surely gonna be faster on AMD system cause of Pci-e 4.0
just yikes

I love how the "we only cater to AMD fanboys these days" Hardware Unboxed used a Ryzen test platform despite it being almost 10% slower even at 1440p, lmao! :D:rolleyes:
That's cause most of his patreon's are AMD fanboys. I mean it boggles my mind why you'd go with a slower cpu for a GPU benchmark. GURU3D similar case - they've replaced their gaming benchmark pc with a Ryzen system just for this. I can't stop laughing :banghead:

edit: it's not guru3 whats the other british guy who's doing reviews?
 
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That's not the only weird thing. Look what happens when running 1440p, the fps doesn't change with either CPU..
CPU limited, explained in more detail in the conclusion of the RTX 3080 FE review
 
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Yup and all those expecting miracles with Zen3 are in for a bitter disappointment as well - I mean yes, it will probably (finally!) come close, but Skylake will still be on top, definitely at least 8700k from 3 years ago, but in many games 7700k just as well and probably even 6700k from over 5 years ago. No matter how you spin it, that's NOT impressive (at all to be honest)
Despite some marketing shenanigans AMD seems to be pulling at the gaming front deep down im pretty sure they dont really care - at the midrange market they already beat Intel to it (okay, Intel mainly beat themselves - make non-Z boards useful for gaming plsplspls) on a pure value-basis (which is by far the largest part of the market); besides that AMD seems to mostly have been focusing on workstation performance - the 3950X singlehandedly obsoleted all of Intel's HEDT offerings after all, and the Threadrippers are just left uncontested.
 
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Yup and all those expecting miracles with Zen3 are in for a bitter disappointment as well - I mean yes, it will probably (finally!) come close, but Skylake will still be on top, definitely at least 8700k from 3 years ago, but in many games 7700k just as well and probably even 6700k from over 5 years ago. No matter how you spin it, that's NOT impressive (at all to be honest)
Intel is superior in most games, no surprise there, but 4 cores doesn't really cut it anymore.

CPU limited, explained in more detail in the conclusion of the RTX 3080 FE review
Of course, thanks.
 
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