Nvidia GTX Titan-Z problems: This isn't acceptable!

zoomer-fodder · May 22, 2015

I'm just not happy with the support the nvidia company, its the most expensive product series GTX

newtekie1 · May 22, 2015

zoomer-fodder said:
I'm just not happy with the support the nvidia company, its the most expensive product series GTX

That's fine, then go to AMD and enjoy the 6 months between official drivers.

MxPhenom 216 · May 22, 2015

OP wins Troll of the Year. Can this thread be closed now?

SonicZap · May 22, 2015

newtekie1 said:
What kind of math is that?
100-82=18%
129-119=10%

You are using percentage points, while I calculated the difference in actual percentages, which means more (evens out the baseline difference) in this case.

newtekie1 said:
Sure there is a little slip in relative performance, but the OP is claiming the 7970 is now faster than the 780. There is nothing that proves that.

True, he's wrong about it and raging about it here is entirely useless anyway. If he wants to actually change something, he should do his homework better when buying a GPU (the Titan Z was always a poor deal), and vote with his wallet.

zoomer-fodder · May 22, 2015

newtekie1 said:
That's fine, then go to AMD and enjoy the 6 months between official drivers.

im allways use beta version from amd and nvidia too. its allways better. but not now with nvidia's kepler.

MxPhenom 216 · May 22, 2015

zoomer-fodder said:
im allways use beta version from amd and nvidia too. its allways better.

So I couldn't take you seriously before, and now I REALLY can't.

zoomer-fodder · May 22, 2015

MxPhenom 216 said:
couldn't take you

im not alone, dont forget.

Vayra86 · May 22, 2015

zoomer-fodder said:
im not alone, dont forget.

Nvidia doesn't care, and what we think doesn't really matter anyway.

But please, keep beating a dead horse.

qubit · May 22, 2015

zoomer-fodder said:
im allways use beta version from amd and nvidia too. its allways better. but not now with nvidia's kepler.

Yes indeed, it's clearly better, always. You get to enjoy new and improved bugs with betas. Awesome.

newtekie1 · May 22, 2015

SonicZap said:
You are using percentage points, while I calculated the difference in actual percentages, which means more (evens out the baseline difference) in this case.

Whatever you did, you did it wrong. In 2013, the 780 was the baseline, so there is no need, or even any way possible, to fudge the numbers in any way and come out with anything other than 18%.

15th Warlock · May 22, 2015

Omg! You paid full price for titan-z? Sorry to say this, but the joke's on you

You could've got three Titan blacks for the same price! Or two R295Xs

Omg! This thread keeps getting better and better

64K · May 22, 2015

15th Warlock said:
Omg! You paid full price for titan-z? Sorry to say this, but the joke's on you

You could've got three Titan blacks for the same price! Or two R295Xs

Omg! This thread keeps getting better and better

You remember how we were all wondering who in the world was buying a Titan Z for $3,000 for gaming when they first came out. Well, now we know.

EarthDog · May 22, 2015

15th Warlock said:
Omg! This thread keeps getting better and better

Not sure why the staff hasn't stopped this bleeder already...
.

rtwjunkie · May 22, 2015

EarthDog said:
Not sure why the staff hasn't stopped this bleeder already...
.

I bet they are sitting back with popcorn enjoying the show....

SonicZap · May 22, 2015

newtekie1 said:
Whatever you did, you did it wrong. In 2013, the 780 was the baseline, so there is no need, or even any way possible, to fudge the numbers in any way and come out with anything other than 18%.

No, I didn't calculate it wrong. The 780 was indeed the baseline, and from the chart you directly see that the HD 7970 is 18% slower than the GTX 780. At the same time, the GTX 780 is (100 / 82) * 100% = 22% faster than the HD 7970, which is what I originally said. Basic maths. I only said it that way to make it easier to compare the performance difference in the 2 charts with different baselines.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · May 22, 2015

zoomer-fodder said:
the realities of today they say only one thing, if you compare the work to optimize the drivers of each of the competing companies:
2013 - 780 > 7970
2014 - 780 = 7970
2015 - 780 < 7970
Nvidia just have cheated people for money. that only is the ratio of performance to dollar most expensive nvidia's card ever made GTX Titan-Z - now it is extremely low, it is unacceptable! What a shame nvidia, what a shame.... and all kepler users must repeat this many times on nvidia forums, on nvidia partners forums, etc.

what would cause nividia to deal with their mistakes and don't repeat them again.
sorry for bad english im russian)
We need nvidia Kepler driver optimisations for all new games
GTA 5 / Project Cars / Mortal Kombat X / Witcher 3.

Mortal Kombat X is just down to shit programming from HVS not nVIDIA.

manofthem · May 22, 2015

EarthDog said:
Not sure why the staff hasn't stopped this bleeder already...
.

I think I know why. I'm guessing this thread is something @Kreij once called a CCT, or a Crap Containment Thread, explained as used by mods to keep the majority of forum nonsense in one location. And since it's the start of a holiday weekend, I think it's a pretty good idea

OneMoar · May 22, 2015

so basically we have somebody that bought a titian Z and then realized he wasted a bunch of money for no reason
ahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahaZAh ahah ha ha ha HA
next time do a bit of research BEFORE you make a purchase
can we lock this thread yet ...

rtwjunkie · May 22, 2015

manofthem said:
I think I know why. I'm guessing this thread is something @Kreij once called a CCT, or a Crap Containment Thread, explained as used by mods to keep the majority of forum nonsense in one location. And since it's the start of a holiday weekend, I think it's a pretty good idea

And, it has been a pretty civil troll-roasting, so no real harm in letting it peter out, I suppose.

EarthDog · May 22, 2015

Must be the second coming of OCN.

newtekie1 · May 22, 2015

SonicZap said:
No, I didn't calculate it wrong. The 780 was indeed the baseline, and from the chart you directly see that the HD 7970 is 18% slower than the GTX 780. At the same time, the GTX 780 is (100 / 82) * 100% = 22% faster than the HD 7970, which is what I originally said. Basic maths. I only said it that way to make it easier to compare the performance difference in the 2 charts with different baselines.

But the 780 is what we are discussing, why make the other card the baseline? It makes no sense to do it that way other than to make the numbers seem worse than they are.

And in the end it doesn't matter because the claim was that the 780 is now slower than the 7970, which isn't true at all no matter how you try to manipulate the numbers so the whole thread is baseless.

SonicZap · May 22, 2015

Well, if you want to put it the other way, the HD 7970 in 2013 was 18% slower than the GTX 780, while in 2015 it's 7.8% slower according to TPU. I'm not trying to make the numbers seem worse than they are, I just wanted to make it easier to compare the 2013 results against the 2015 results if someone was actually interested in them. The difference is significant, but the one who started the thread is clearly exaggerating the performance boost (or purposefully lying about it) that the HD 7970 has got over time - I do agree on that. It is still clearly slower than the GTX 780, and will most likely always be.

Toothless · May 22, 2015

I vote to keep this thread open for the lols.

RCoon · May 22, 2015

EarthDog said:
Not sure why the staff hasn't stopped this bleeder already...
.

I dont have powers in this subforum, plus nobody has reported it surprisingly.

Toothless · May 22, 2015

RCoon said:
I dont have powers in this subforum, plus nobody has reported it surprisingly.

You just reminded me of the giant raccoon I saw in my neighborhood that had no tail.

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