NVIDIA Releases GeForce 465.89 Game Ready Drivers: Resizable BAR Finally Here

stimpy88 · Mar 31, 2021

Mussels said:
no change but why would it? nvidia would need to enable it in the driver for all the mining programs

Maybe you all have the bios block now, and just need a nice critical "game ready" driver to drop next to implement their new "policy" on ETH mining?

Or are you saying nVidia are not capable of doing something like this? They did say the ETH cripple was coming to other RTX cards, and that it needs hooks implemented in the vbios for the driver to cripple it.

But what a great way to ensure all the "gamers" go out and install a vbios update... A nice juicy free performance carrot, potentially followed by the ETH stick!

Hopefully I'm wrong. I just don't trust nVidia.

phanbuey · Mar 31, 2021

Framerate cap absolutely murders the performance, which stinks, as Gsync > rebar... will wait for refinements before enabling it again, does seem promising though.

W1zzard · Mar 31, 2021

stimpy88 said:
Maybe you all have the bios block now

Yeah, I thought about that, too, would be so awesome, but you can just flash back to the previous BIOS.

Calmmo · Mar 31, 2021

Seems to have improved performance a little bit on HZD but i'm seeing sometimes very noticable long load times which was 100% not the case pre resize bar.

stimpy88 · Mar 31, 2021

W1zzard said:
Yeah, I thought about that, too, would be so awesome, but you can just flash back to the previous BIOS.

Thanks for that W1zzard. Have you actually tried to flash back? (I have no idea how nVidia bios flashing works, as I've not had to do it)

Maybe nVidia can't lock the bios, and can only do it by launching a card that require a different bios from the beginning, so there is no publicly available unlocked bios to flash back to?

W1zzard · Mar 31, 2021

stimpy88 said:
Thanks for that W1zzard. Have you actually tried to flash back? (I have no idea how nVidia bios flashing works, as I've not had to do it)

Yes I have, works fine. Working on a BAR vs no BAR article right now

Hangya · Mar 31, 2021

Hi!

I have MSI RTX 3080 suprim x videocard and Gigabyte X570 elite with latest bios version both. I convert my system disk MBR to GPT. After I enabled "Above 4G decoding" and "Resizable Bar" and disabled CSM in BIOS. Rebooted and no bootable device found and the computer go back the BIOS screen. Please help what should I do to resizable bar work fine.

Franzen4Real · Mar 31, 2021

phanbuey said:
Framerate cap absolutely murders the performance, which stinks, as Gsync > rebar... will wait for refinements before enabling it again, does seem promising though.

Do you mean when you have g-sync enabled and your hitting the the cap? Or do you mean just simply having it enabled, even when your fps is running under the cap? There is no way I would trade off gsync/freesync for rebar.

phanbuey · Mar 31, 2021

Franzen4Real said:
Do you mean when you have g-sync enabled and your hitting the the cap? Or do you mean just simply having it enabled, even when your fps is running under the cap? There is no way I would trade off gsync/freesync for rebar.

I have my cap at 117 fps to keep within Gsync, and usually average between 93-117 smooth as butter in BL3 at med-high settings at 4k... with REBAR enabled i get bad intermittent stutters at those settings regardless of whether I am hitting the cap (it will stutter at 100FPS and 117 - seems to be tied to asset loading).

Turning off rebar in bios makes everything smooth again.

R-T-B · Apr 1, 2021

W1zzard said:
Yes I have, works fine. Working on a BAR vs no BAR article right now

You sir (more specifically your reviews) are a benchmark in excellence.

Looking forward to it.

jjnissanpatfan · Apr 1, 2021

I only tested Warzone and BlackOpps and both seem about the same maybe slightly higher overall like 5-10 fps in certain situations . I ran TimeSpy just because and saw no change with that. These test were all done with the new driver also...so it could be driver only tweaks that I see. I am not going through the process of uninstalling to old drivers...to find out where the change is. Nope it works...my performance is about where its needed for my hardware. My job is complete and I can go back to being a dumb user...not the smart one fixing it all the time!!!

Mussels · Apr 1, 2021

stimpy88 said:
Maybe you all have the bios block now, and just need a nice critical "game ready" driver to drop next to implement their new "policy" on ETH mining?

Or are you saying nVidia are not capable of doing something like this? They did say the ETH cripple was coming to other RTX cards, and that it needs hooks implemented in the vbios for the driver to cripple it.

But what a great way to ensure all the "gamers" go out and install a vbios update... A nice juicy free performance carrot, potentially followed by the ETH stick!

Hopefully I'm wrong. I just don't trust nVidia.

they cant backdate a performance block, such blocks will only exist in new products as time goes by slowing interest from the miners at launch of new products

Franzen4Real · Apr 1, 2021

phanbuey said:
I have my cap at 117 fps to keep within Gsync, and usually average between 93-117 smooth as butter in BL3 at med-high settings at 4k... with REBAR enabled i get bad intermittent stutters at those settings regardless of whether I am hitting the cap (it will stutter at 100FPS and 117 - seems to be tied to asset loading).

Turning off rebar in bios makes everything smooth again.

Ouch... that’s a deal breaker for me. I appreciate you reporting on that, I’ll be holding off on the bios flash until it’s sorted out.

Mussels · Apr 1, 2021

Franzen4Real said:
Ouch... that’s a deal breaker for me. I appreciate you reporting on that, I’ll be holding off on the bios flash until it’s sorted out.

well you can disable REBAR in your bios super easy regardless, after the flash

The Nvidia FPS lock seems to be borky in this driver, hopefully gets a hotfix

junglist724 · Apr 1, 2021

Using the Windows 10 insider build with Auto HDR this driver works for a few minutes then bsods and on a reboot almost every game complains about no dx9/10/11/12 support or just crash to desktop. Another pc with the same cpu and gpu there's no problems.

Franzen4Real · Apr 1, 2021

Mussels said:
well you can disable REBAR in your bios super easy regardless, after the flash

The Nvidia FPS lock seems to be borky in this driver, hopefully gets a hotfix

That's true. I had just meant that there wouldn't be a case where I would choose rebar over freesync, so I would be taking the inherent risk of a vbios flash (albeit with only a rare occurrence of irreversible problems), for no reward at the moment. I'm confident that it will all work out at some point though. Quite interested in the upcoming article from our resident W1z to see if he encountered something similar during testing, and perhaps some official word/hotfix from the nVidia driver team as you have mentioned.

TIMANA450 · Apr 1, 2021

Good morning, I understood that Zen + would not be compatible, but I activate without problems, someone can confirm?.

Mussels · Apr 2, 2021

TIMANA450 said:
Good morning, I understood that Zen + would not be compatible, but I activate without problems, someone can confirm?.

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AMD said it was coming to just zen3 at launch, but never specified how far back it'd get rolled out

as an example B550 doesnt support zen+, so if AMD had a post about REBAR support and B550 they'd have said zen+ wasnt compatible (When it could be on B450)

So yes, it looks like you've got it working - probably with less gains than the newer chips but we have no way of knowing yet

blu3dragon · Apr 2, 2021

So 19 games.... Is there any way to force it on if you want to try it on a game nVidia might never even get to testing?

GeForce RTX 30 Series Performance Accelerates With Resizable BAR Support | GeForce News | NVIDIA

Support available now for all GeForce RTX 30 Series Founders Edition graphics cards, and select GeForce RTX 30 Series laptops.<br/>

www.nvidia.com

Mussels · Apr 2, 2021

blu3dragon said:
So 19 games.... Is there any way to force it on if you want to try it on a game nVidia might never even get to testing?

GeForce RTX 30 Series Performance Accelerates With Resizable BAR Support | GeForce News | NVIDIA

Support available now for all GeForce RTX 30 Series Founders Edition graphics cards, and select GeForce RTX 30 Series laptops.<br/>

www.nvidia.com

Nvinspector or whatever it was calledcan probably do it, much like we used to force SLI profiles

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