Nvidia's 3D Vision reaches critical mass

[qubit]

meh, i feel dizzy after playing with my friend 3D monitor


and btw if you want to use normal 3D tv on nvdia card you must pay for the driver to enable it

Can you explain that last bit please? Way I understand it, the only requirement is that the display must be able to work at 120Hz, so I don't understand where the money comes in.

 

[wahdangun]

Can you explain that last bit please? Way I understand it, the only requirement is that the display must be able to work at 120Hz, so I don't understand where the money comes in.

yes it is, its still need 3D capable TV, but to use it with G-force card you need special driver that enable the 3D through the HDMI port


edit : and that special driver will cost you $30

 

[JATownes]

yes it is, its still need 3D capable TV, but to use it with G-force card you need special driver that enable the 3D through the HDMI port


edit : and that special driver will cost you $30

Source?

Edit: I believe you are mistaken.

The solution supports industry-standard HDMI 1.4 3D HDTVs and compatible 3D glasses from all major TV manufacturers, and runs on Microsoft Windows Vista and Windows 7 PCs.

So, the NVIDIA 3DTV Play software is available as a free upgrade for all 3D Vision PCs via the latest Release 260 GeForce drivers for desktop GPUs, and Release 260 Verde Notebooks drivers for notebook GPUs, which you can easily download from Softpedia.

Source

EDIT 2: NEVERMIND, it is free only if you have a prefab 3DVision PC. WHAT A RIPOFF...Spend $500+ for a GPU, and then need $40 driver package to bring out its full potential. THAT SUX.

 

[wahdangun]

NVDIA 3D TVplay

This little piece of magic will be free for those who already own an NVIDIA 3D Vision kit, but for the rest of us with NVIDIA video cards, it'll be $40. What's interesting is that 3DTV Play doesn't really help those with the 3D Vision kits, because it is specifically for 3DTVs; which require their own 3D glasses. Now if you really want to know exactly what 3DTV Play does help with, and how well it works, well you'll just have to click on through for that part.

source @gizmodo

If you already own Nvidia's 3D Vision kit, you're eligible to get 3DTV Play as a free upgrade. If you'd rather not bother, you can pick up 3DTV Play separately for $40. Since your 3DTV comes with stereoscopic glasses anyway, you may be better off with the standalone. It'll also support Blu-ray 3D in 1080p, 3D photos, or streaming 3D movie content.

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[JATownes]

I retract my previous statement. And might I add, DAMN WHAT A RIPOFF...

 

[entropy13]

Real life 3D requires me to wear glasses.

Nvidia's 3D Vision reaches critical mass

 

[wahdangun]

I retract my previous statement. And might I add, DAMN WHAT A RIPOFF...

yeah especially when ati card was FREE, its a damm rip off, but its just nvdia being nvdia

 

[f22a4bandit]

News releases from companies almost always come out of the public relations department or public relations firm that they've hired. I hate the negative connotation that public relations receives as I myself graduated studying public relations, but I understand where it comes from.

3D sounds pretty interesting, but at this point it's still a work in progress. I'm not an early adopter of technology because of the inherent bugs/issues that persist in the newer technology. Until these things are sorted out, and the format becomes widely adopted, I'll wait out the storm.

 

[erocker]

Hey what's with the trolls? :shadedshu

Make an intelligent comment or STFU. Thanks.

Most "intelligent" folks know that overpriced 3D is a lame gimmick. Personally, I fail to see how 1950's technology is all of a sudden important. It is not. The vast majority of gamers/enthusiasts don't care at all about 3D. I hope AMD drops 3D all together to focus their efforts elsewhere. Plus, where is your intelligent comment? You just copy and pasted an article with a not so intelligent comment yourself, albeit it's better than posting one word that isn't even a word, lol. No offense intended.

 

[DRDNA]

Well I would love to have 3D but not until it is Glasses free and any new Model HDTV or monitor can use the 3D technology. Thats when I am in!

 

[qubit]

Most "intelligent" folks know that overpriced 3D is a lame gimmick. Personally, I fail to see how 1950's technology is all of a sudden important. It is not. The vast majority of gamers/enthusiasts don't care at all about 3D. I hope AMD drops 3D all together to focus their efforts elsewhere. Plus, where is your intelligent comment? You just copy and pasted an article with a not so intelligent comment yourself, albeit it's better than posting one word that isn't even a word, lol. No offense intended.

- Whether 3D is a gimmick or not is debatable. I agree it's certainly not important in the sense that colour is, say, but it certainly has a certain wow factor.

- The LCD shutter glasses are not 1950s tech. You're confusing it with those horrible red/blue cardboard anaglyph glasses (which date back to the 1930s, I think). LCD glasses are about a decade old. However, it's taken modern advances in CPU and graphics tech to make them viable at consumer prices. The number one reason why 3D hasn't taken off previously was the difficulty of displaying it and the requirement for glasses. Heck, those damn glasses are a major stumbling block to this day and I don't think it will ever gain completely mainstream acceptance while they're still needed.

- Frankly, I don't see what's wrong with the article I quoted or my comment that AMD have some catching up to do. Fact is that AMD are now pushing 3D with shutter glasses on their cards, just like nvidia. And this is a good couple of years after nvidia started doing it and are having some success with it (you can bet your boots AMD would not have bothered had nvidia not been successful). So yes, nvidia are ahead in 3D and AMD have some catching up to do to have the same market penetration with this feature.

 

[Fourstaff]

Most "intelligent" folks know that overpriced 3D is a lame gimmick.

Problem is, most of the folks aren't that intelligent, and when they see nvidia's 3D advert, and notice that AMD does not have them, they will naturally get Nvidia's products. And there are a lot more dumb folks out there than smart people.

 

[erocker]

- Whether 3D is a gimmick or not is debatable. I agree it's certainly not important in the sense that colour is, say, but it certainly has a certain wow factor.

- The LCD shutter glasses are not 1950s tech. You're confusing it with those horrible red/blue cardboard anaglyph glasses (which date back to the 1930s, I think). LCD glasses are about a decade old. However, it's taken modern advances in CPU and graphics tech to make them viable at consumer prices. The number one reason why 3D hasn't taken off previously was the difficulty of displaying it and the requirement for glasses. Heck, those damn glasses are a major stumbling block to this day and I don't think it will ever gain completely mainstream acceptance while they're still needed.

- Frankly, I don't see what's wrong with the article I quoted or my comment that AMD have some catching up to do. Fact is that AMD are now pushing 3D with shutter glasses on their cards, just like nvidia. And this is a good couple of years after nvidia started doing it and are having some success with it (you can bet your boots AMD would not have bothered had nvidia not been successful). So yes, nvidia are ahead in 3D and AMD have some catching up to do to have the same market penetration with this feature.

I'd love to see some number on how popular 3D gaming actually is. How many 3D vision units sold, 120hz monitors, etc.

 

[Thrackan]

Problem is, most of the folks aren't that intelligent, and when they see nvidia's 3D advert, and notice that AMD does not have them, they will naturally get Nvidia's products. And there are a lot more dumb folks out there than smart people.

Don't bother. Last time I tried to say that "most people don't do proper research and will fall for any marketing trap" half the forum fell over it.

 

[qubit]

I'd love to see some number on how popular 3D gaming actually is. How many 3D vision units sold, 120hz monitors, etc.

So would I, but it must be quite significant for AMD to pour resources into 3D.

 

[erocker]

So would I, but it must be quite significant for AMD to pour resources into 3D.

They took the bait. I guess they feel that they need to say "we have it too" regardless of how relevant it is. Hollywood is pushing 3D and now so is the gaming industry. Thing is when it comes to home entertainment I just don't see people jumping on the bandwagon to make it feasible. If I'm right, they'll end up dumping it eventually or newer 3D tech will come out to replace this antiquated system they use now and everyone will have to cough up cash to get the new stuff. If I'm wrong, well, we'll all be sitting in front of our monitors/TV's with stupid looking glasses on and our eyes watering with occasional headaches. I'm just going off what I see. I don't see too many folks even talking about 3D on most forums when it comes to PC's.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

I don't know if I could get into 3D gaming and I think the novelty would wear off far too quickly to justify the heavy price tag.

With that said I should be receiving a BIG 3D TV this week and I will have the chance to see how enjoyable 3D movies are at home. I didnt buy the TV for 3D rather it's just about the best TV you can buy right now.... 3D is just a bonus (maybe).

Side note: Crysis 2 3D is available for preorder already.

As for Nausea while viewing 3D I don't think I'm affected by it. I watched Avatar in 3D in the theater and I didn't experience any of the symptoms some people reported. It was just awesome IMO.

 

[1Kurgan1]

The whole issue with 3D gaming is... me and my fiancee have our comps side by side, I frequently glance at her screen as she does mine. When I lived with friends, we had a comp room, and there was quite a few comps in there and you'd always be checking out what someone else was up to. With 3D, that just going to be a blurry mess. I guess with PC it's not so horrible as it's a platform meant for 1 person, but with console gaming, it's basically a nightmare, playing a 4 player game... thats a lot of glasses.

 

[qubit]

They took the bait. I guess they feel that they need to say "we have it too" regardless of how relevant it is. Hollywood is pushing 3D and now so is the gaming industry. Thing is when it comes to home entertainment I just don't see people jumping on the bandwagon to make it feasible. If I'm right, they'll end up dumping it eventually or newer 3D tech will come out to replace this antiquated system they use now and everyone will have to cough up cash to get the new stuff. If I'm wrong, well, we'll all be sitting in front of our monitors/TV's with stupid looking glasses on and our eyes watering with occasional headaches. I'm just going off what I see. I don't see too many folks even talking about 3D on most forums when it comes to PC's.

Yeah, +1 erocker, especially the bold bit. It's those darn glasses! lol

 

[wahdangun]

- Whether 3D is a gimmick or not is debatable. I agree it's certainly not important in the sense that colour is, say, but it certainly has a certain wow factor.

- The LCD shutter glasses are not 1950s tech. You're confusing it with those horrible red/blue cardboard anaglyph glasses (which date back to the 1930s, I think). LCD glasses are about a decade old. However, it's taken modern advances in CPU and graphics tech to make them viable at consumer prices. The number one reason why 3D hasn't taken off previously was the difficulty of displaying it and the requirement for glasses. Heck, those damn glasses are a major stumbling block to this day and I don't think it will ever gain completely mainstream acceptance while they're still needed.

- Frankly, I don't see what's wrong with the article I quoted or my comment that AMD have some catching up to do. Fact is that AMD are now pushing 3D with shutter glasses on their cards, just like nvidia. And this is a good couple of years after nvidia started doing it and are having some success with it (you can bet your boots AMD would not have bothered had nvidia not been successful). So yes, nvidia are ahead in 3D and AMD have some catching up to do to have the same market penetration with this feature.

no AMD don't do gaming on 3D, they use third party driver and gases like iz3d so they don't pour they resource for 3D gaming

 

[HalfAHertz]

this has already been discussed a bunch of times, the latest being here

AMD did not "just took the bait", they have been supporting 3rd party 3d since catalyst 10.3(that means shutter glasses, 3d monitors i tv's, etc.). The thing is that they have just started marketing it because the majority of the people are too lazy to do a bit of research.

However I completely agree that Nvidia is a lot more serious with 3D. Is it any relevant? I don't know about others but it's not for me.

 

[hellrazor]

It's those darn glasses!

The way I see it, I can't even keep track of one remote - How am I supposed to keep track of a bunch of pairs of glasses?

I like saying that when I'm in best buy, or any other place that tries to sell me 3D stuff.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

The way I see it, I can't even keep track of one remote - How am I supposed to keep track of a bunch of pairs of glasses?

I like saying that when I'm in best buy, or any other place that tries to sell me 3D stuff.

If you can't keep track of $300 glasses maybe you shouldn't get into 3D.

 

[HXL492]

Well if AMD needs to catch up to Nvidia in the 3D market, then nvidia seriously needs to catch up to AMD in the DX11 market. AMD has shipped over 25 million DX11 cards and control 90% of the DX11 market

 

[pantherx12]

Actually Erocker, pretty much everyone I've asked about 3d wants it. ( for example, given the choice between watching a film in 3d or normal for the same price, people would choose 3d, it's not just because it's a gimmick, 3d done well makes films awesome)

How ever the stumbling block is mostly the price of such a set up.

Nothing else.

So the market is there for certain, the technology just needs to get cheaper.

And with AMD on the bandwagon now that day will come faster.


This is only WIN WIN WIN for everyone, especially when I get my holodeck!


A friend of mine has a nvidia surround 3d set up, having the peripheral of your eyes pick up 3d as well, is according to my friend, freaken awesome. ( peripheral vision has a higher refresh rate if you will compared to the rest of the eye by the way) Having something " come at you" from the corners of your eyes really makes you react in a different way from what your used to with gaming.

I think it's really cool and has brilliant potential for gaming as well as 3d design work, it's just to darn expensive! : [

When screens get printed on OLED rolls and there is nothing extra to pay for then 3d will be standard for sure : ]