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Hi all, in the market for a NVME 500gb boot drive , but a bit confused about the heat problems with these.
Have read they can and probably will overheat without a heatsink, as my motherboard is pretty basic it doesnt have a heatsink, just the slot, would it be ok as is? or are there versions of nvme with heatsinks already on?

tbh ive no idea and am total n00b when it come to nvme drives.
Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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Hi,
Yes might as well they already need a heatsink.

Just stay away from adata m.2's

Otherwise western digital/...
Nothing really wrong with 2.5" ssd's I prefer them they run cooler and are cheaper per gb than m.2's
 

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Hi all, in the market for a NVME 500gb boot drive , but a bit confused about the heat problems with these.
Have read they can and probably will overheat without a heatsink, as my motherboard is pretty basic it doesnt have a heatsink, just the slot, would it be ok as is? or are there versions of nvme with heatsinks already on?

tbh ive no idea and am total n00b when it come to nvme drives.
Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated.

They only get too hot when writing a lot of data to the drive all at once, which most people don't do that often. And they have protections built in to keep the temperatures safe, they will slow down their write speed to stay safe if they start to get too hot.
 
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cheers, so should be ok , was considering 1 of these 2 , bearing in mind any heat issues

Samsung 970 EVO 500 GB PCIe NVMe​

or

WD_BLACK SN750 500GB High-Performance NVMe (with heatsink)​


both roughly the same price, so which would you go for considering the above?
 
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Hi,
That's funny my m.2 is doing nothing and 39c lol
850 pro 2.5" doing something is only 27c another 850 evo doing nothing atm 27c :)
 
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Hi,
That's funny my m.2 is doing nothing and 39c lol
850 pro 2.5" doing something is only 27c another 850 evo doing nothing atm 27c :)
Doesn't your board have heatsinks for your M.2 drives? Mine doesn't so could maybe be a problem.
 
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M.2 SSDs don't easily overheat, unless there is intensive writing going on, so you don't have to worry much.
 
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just because one is warmer than the other, doesnt mean much (outside controlled environment to measure)..

my 970 evo runs 46*C with win idle/low load, and reaches about 55*C under load (with heatsink),
while the adata nvme is at 36*C (sitting next to the boards heatsink), while a (phison/micron) ssd is doing 33*C.
the 3* difference is more likely because it sits in a separate chamber and on the bottom of the case and the lower air temp,
than anything else..

@xubidoo
dont worry about temps unless your case has bad airflow or really hot cpu/gpu
(one reason i prefer LC, dumps the heat from cpu outside the case, lowering temps on everything else).
there are a handful of chip makers (for name brand drives), and all i checked, say the drives can handle about 70*C...

see what the price is on the 970 evo plus, should be same or less.
you can always install heatsink, just get one that doesnt use rubber bands for mounting..

drives
evo plus
or
inland premium 512gb
(cheaper, but not slower drive, made by corsair and basically identical with the MP510)

heatsinks
with "adhesive" on thermal pad
with bracket
 
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My 500GB SN750 is plugged into the top slot and is sitting at 27c right now, my 1TB SN750 is in the bottom slot and is at 27c as well. My case fans are at 7v. My board also comes with sinks for them.. No page file as well..

I don't think I've seen them over 30-32c if I'm honest.. but it isn't summer yet.. and about 21c down here in the basement..

Edit:

Tomorrow I think I will use the TB SN750 as my boot drive just because its a bit faster..
 
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no page file?
really good idea :rolleyes:
 
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Isn't the memory on the SSDs perform better when warm? Not scorching hot but not hitting 80-90C?
 

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My 500GB SN750 is plugged into the top slot and is sitting at 27c right now, my 1TB SN750 is in the bottom slot and is at 27c as well. My case fans are at 7v. My board also comes with sinks for them.. No page file as well..

I don't think I've seen them over 30-32c if I'm honest.. but it isn't summer yet.. and about 21c down here in the basement..

Edit:

Tomorrow I think I will use the TB SN750 as my boot drive just because its a bit faster..
you cant run no page file on modern operating systems, it just ignores you and makes one as small as possible.

It's a bad idea - just set a large page file and dont try and do the oppposite of what your OS needs... some programs crash without it
 
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I don't use heatsinks on my m.2 drives, just decent case airflow.
 

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on the NVME topic: some of my drives thermal throttle under sustained writes, without a heatsink
It's a difference between throttling in 5 seconds or 10 seconds, so it may or may not make any real difference in the real world... and in my case its on an intel drive with a bad reputation anyway - my samsungs do far better.
 
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You can actually buy cheap heatsinks for M.2 drives if you're that concerned.
Some also ship with one attached.
I think you're being worried about something that isn't really an issue for most people.
 
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Doesn't your board have heatsinks for your M.2 drives? Mine doesn't so could maybe be a problem.
Hi,
Yes I have a very good blower style heatsink which is the only reason the 970 evo plus max temperature is 61c after CDM instead of 75c+ :)
Amazon.com: Advancing Gene M.2 NVMe Cooler Heatsink with 20mm PWM Fan (3rd Gen): Electronics

M.2's have been dropping in price but the hype of m.2's is crazy exaggerated
They aren't all that much better than normal 2.5" sata ssd's which are still per gb cheaper so unless you do a lot of large file moving there is no real difference you'd notice beside a hot spot on your board between m.2 and sata ssd.

It's just a budget thing not anything else.
 
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Don't believe the hype. Something like the Intel 665P or Crucial P1 (I think) are great "budget" drives or HP EX900. Most drives will come with some sort of heatsink but you can get M2 heatsinks as cheap as $5 that will work just fine. 500GB is a little bit small I have plenty of those sitting around too. 1TB is where it's at especially if you want to use it as a boot drive.
 
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Well, as far as heatsinks go, I tend to go with the old motto:

Betta to have'em & not need 'em, than need 'em & not have em", hehehe :)

And as already stated, alot of drives come with them, and usually for only a few $$ more than without, so just go for it, or worst case just buy a 3rd party one for $10-15 and be happy...

Also, on the price/performance front, 1-2TB is the current sweet spot, and I would strongly stay away from anything smaller....
 
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The only reason im going for 500gb rather than bigger, is that only the OS will be on it, i just think its a total waste of of a 1tb drive if im only using say 30-40gbs on a win 10 install and a few progs, all my games are on my 2tb ssd and my music,video files are on a 1tb hdd.

C: Windows 250gb SSD - approx 75% free avail
D: Games 2tb SSD - approx 70% free avail
E: Storage 1tb HDD - approx 60% free avail

So you can see from my point of view, it would be a waste getting a larger drive.

Can see i need to do a bit more looking and reading up , from the sounds of it , i may not even notice hardly a difference from my 250gb ssd i have currently as a boot drive.
 
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The only reason im going for 500gb rather than bigger, is that only the OS will be on it, i just think its a total waste of of a 1tb drive if im only using say 30-40gbs on a win 10 install and a few progs, all my games are on my 2tb ssd and my music,video files are on a 1tb hdd.

Can see i need to do a bit more looking and reading up , from the sounds of it , i may not even notice hardly a difference from my 250gb ssd i have currently as a boot drive.
The thing with smaller drives is they can easily be missing or low on Cache or may not have DRAM installed on the PCB. There is also the question of perceived reliability as 1TB always has a higher endurance rating.
 
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why not buy a wd sn550 blue 1tb these are very good drives. i replaced my wd blue with a sn750 1tb and honestly i can't tell the difference except in benchmarks and they can be had for 99.99usd.
 
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why not buy a wd sn550 blue 1tb these are very good drives. i replaced my wd blue with a sn750 1tb and honestly i can't tell the difference except in benchmarks and they can be had for 99.99usd.

Already have 3 WD Blue drives 2 ssd and 1 hdd , and i think they are very good, i just fancied something different lol.
 
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NVMe dont reach high temperatures unless you write large amount of data for a very long time, even then they have built in safety measures that reduce the drive performance to cool temperatures should they get too high, so in other words, it shroud be fine
 
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The only reason im going for 500gb rather than bigger, is that only the OS will be on it, i just think its a total waste of of a 1tb drive if im only using say 30-40gbs on a win 10 install and a few progs, all my games are on my 2tb ssd and my music,video files are on a 1tb hdd.

C: Windows 250gb SSD - approx 75% free avail
D: Games 2tb SSD - approx 70% free avail
E: Storage 1tb HDD - approx 60% free avail

So you can see from my point of view, it would be a waste getting a larger drive.

Can see i need to do a bit more looking and reading up , from the sounds of it , i may not even notice hardly a difference from my 250gb ssd i have currently as a boot drive.
Hi,
Nope you won't see much if any difference
I use 500gb versions too for os cut them in half and leave the rest unallocated but again I've gone back to my 2.5" ssd's
Only benchmark that cares if you use a m.2 is CDM/ as ssd/ and passmark performance 8-9 or 10 lol no other ones care at all.

I'd personally save the funds for gpu once they drop in price.
 
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