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This is a database for comparing the X1950Pro and 7900GS cards. As they are both replacements for the X1900GT and 7900GT* respectively I would be happy to allow their scores in too. If you use tweaked drivers or non-approved ones please let me know via Pm and you can post with them. Different Performance drivers are absolutely fine in my opinion. The only benchmark we cannot verify fully is the F.E.A.R. internal benchmark. Therefore I ask that people put everything to highest @ 1024x768 and that they are honest about this. This is the test that relies on only screenshots and trust alone. SLI and Crossfire setups are welcome and will not be penalised.


Conclusion From Results:
To be honest I believe the cards to be very evenly matched. For the casual buyer who won't overclock I definitely would advise the X1950Pro over the 7900GS as I think it just edges it at stock speeds. However with volt-mods especially, the 7900GS can make up considerable ground when it comes to overclocking. It completely pounds the ATi cards in 3DMark03 and AquaMark3 but doesn't quite manage it in 3D05/6. The FEAR results I'm afraid may be slightly flawed when it comes to my X1900GT. I have done recent tests and the results have fluctuated by such a large margin that I think it may be RAM having some major heat issues. While still only being @ 2.2v when benching and normal play- they have been overheating recently to a dangerous degree. This has had a direct negative impact on my results over the last month and recently I compiled my results to test if my theory was correct. Unfortunately it seems it is. If I shove a 120mm over them and do the test immediately after boot I get great scores, if not- then they get worse consistently with temperature increase. I however cannot mount a 120mm in there permanently due to case restrictions. Special mention has to be made though to both tigger69, [IRA]_FBI for their great scores and benching; and also to p_o_s_pc for his frankly obscene clock speeds. I'd also like to thank mitsirfishi for leaving us his Crossfire scores- while I'd have liked some 7900GS SLI scores as well you can't have everything. I will update this thread but the debate is largely over as you can see from the results. Both cards are great and petty flame wars on threads can be mowed down with the proof from this thread if such an annoying case occurs (as it does all the time...). Thanks for all your guys efforts towards the database, and I hope my efforts in tabulating it were sufficient.

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3DMark03
3DMark05
3DMark06
AquaMark3
F.E.A.R Internal Benchmark



If anyone wants to add benchmarks please tell me as I would especially like to add a few more "Real Game" benchmarks.

CPU-Z, Aquamark, and 3DMark ORB links/Screenies required. Please also post your GPU/VRAM clock speeds

PLEASE POST ALL SCREENIES AS ATTACHMENTS LIKE MY EXAMPLE SO I CAN LINK THEM FOR EASIER NAVIGATION.

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3DMark03
1.) mitsirfishi - X1950Pro CF @ 648/823 - AMD 6000X2 @ 3.45 - 29353
2.) [IRA]_FBI - 7900GS @ 560/900 - Intel E6400 @ 3.28 - 23027
3.) newtekie1 - 7900GS** @ 580/790 - Intel E6600 @ 3.60 - 23000
4.) p_o_s_pc - 7900GS @ 650/950 - AMD 4600X2 @ 2.50 - 21157
5.) tigger69 - X1950Pro @ 648/770 - Intel E6750 @ 3.60 - 20607
6.) pbmaster - 7900GT @ 600/800 - AMD 3800 @ 2.70 - 20291
7.) Kursah - X1950Pro @ 621/756 - Intel E6300 @ 3.5 - 18765
8.) theonetruewill - X1900GT @ 722/810 - AMD 4600X2 @ 2816 - 18484
9.) imperialreign - X1950Pro @ 601/729 - Intel P4 @ 3.85 - 15,838
10.) Morgoth - X1950Pro @ 627/762 - Intel P4 @ 2.00 - 12927



3DMark05
1.) mitsirfishi - X1950Pro CF @ 648/823 - AMD 6000X2 @ 3.45 - 17304
2.) tigger69 - X1950Pro @ 648/796 - Intel E6750 @ 3.60 - 12487
3.) theonetruewill - X1900GT @ 648/770 - AMD 4600X2 @ 2.84 - 11689
4.) BTK - 7900GS @ 640/950 - AMD 4000 @ 3.07 - 10552
5.) Ninkobwi - X1950GT @ 661/654 - AMD 3800X2 @ 2.40? - 10315
6.) [IRA]_FBI - 7900GS @ 560/900? - Intel E6400 @ 3.28 - 10286
7.) pbmaster - 7900GT @ 600/800 - AMD 6000X2 @ 3.01 - 10280
8.) Widjaja - X1950Pro @ 580/702 - AMD 4800X2 @ 2.45 - 10012
9.) newtekie1 - 7900GS** @ 580/790 - Intel E6600 @ 3.60 - 9914
10.) p_o_s_pc - 7900GS @ 576/823 - AMD 4600X2 @ 2.70 - 9466
11.) imperialreign - X1950Pro @ 601/729 - Intel P4 @ 3.85 - 8,450




3DMark06
1.) mitsirfishi - X1950Pro CF @ 641/823 - AMD 6000X2 @ 3.44 - 9334
2.) tigger69 - X1950Pro @ 648/770 - Intel E6750 @ 3.60 - 6087
3.) pbmaster - 7900GT @ 600/800 - AMD 6000X2 @ 3.01 - 5835
4.) theonetruewill - X1900GT @ 722/810 - AMD 4600X2 @ 2.82 - 5793
5.) [IRA]_FBI - 7900GS @ 560/900? - Intel E6400 @ 3.28 - 5774
6.) newtekie1 - 7900GS** @ 580/790 - Intel E6600 @ 3.60 - 5643
7.) Kursah - X1950Pro @ 621/756 - Intel E6300 @ 3.50 - 5522
8.) BTK - 7900GS @ 640/950 - AMD 4000 @ 3.07 - 5259
9.) Widjaja - X1950Pro @ 580/702 - AMD 4800X2 @ 2.45 -5002
10.) imperialreign - X1950Pro @ 614/762 - Intel P4 @ 3.80 - 4616
11.) Morgoth - X1950Pro @ 627/762 - Intel P4 @ 2.75 - 3525



AquaMark 3
1.) [I.R.A]_FBi - 7900GS @ 600/930 - Intel E6400 @ 3.20 - 137,420
2.) newtekie1 - 7900GS** @ 580/790 - Intel E6600 @ 3.60 - 136,077
3.) tigger69 - X1950Pro @ 648/796 - Intel E6750 @ 3.60 - 131,772
4.) Kursah - X1950Pro @ 621/756 - Intel E6300 @ 3.5 - 123,195
5.) p_o_s_pc - 7900GS @ 560/900 - AMD 4600X2 @ 2.80 - 111,277
6.) Widjaja - X1950Pro @ 580/702 - AMD 4800X2 @ 2.45 -87,627
7.) pbmaster - 7900GT @ 600/800 - AMD 3800 @ 2.61 - 79,362
8.) imperialreign - X1950Pro @ 601/729 - Intel P4 @ 3.85 - 76,240
9.) Morgoth - X1950Pro @ 627/762 - Intel P4 @ 2.76 - 40,486



F.E.A.R. 1024x768 Maximum Graphics/Processor Options,4xAA 16xAF - Your F.E.A.R. options should look like those shown in the attached pictures. You will have to manually change some of them to highest..
newtekie1 - 7900GT @ 580/790 - Intel E6600 @ 3.60 - Min: 39 Max: 82 Max 188
theonetruewill - X1900GT @ 722/810 - AMD 4600X2 @ 2.82 - Min: 29 Max: 66 Max 191 - Please ignore these results, RAM issues have been identified as a major problem.

Physics/Computer Options may skew results towards higher end CPU's.


*Replacement of the 7900GT was actually the 7950GT but honorary anyway.
**7900GT locked to 7900GS core settings - pipelines disabled etc.
 

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Here's mine so far; X1900GT @ 722/810
3DMark03 - 18484
3DMark06 - 5793
 

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Good stuff... once I've got all my crap sorted I'll 'ave go. As for benchmarks, maybe using a game from each genre (RTS, RPG, FPS etc) and engine type (eg, OpenGL or DX9).

I know most people won't have the same games, but it may work...
 
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Good stuff... once I've got all my crap sorted I'll 'ave go. As for benchmarks, maybe using a game from each genre (RTS, RPG, FPS etc) and engine type (eg, OpenGL or DX9).

I know most people won't have the same games, but it may work...
Some demo games that have benchmarks perhaps?
 

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heres mine.
 

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Tigger, do you mind editing that and placing them as attachments so I can link them to the scores?:) CPU-Z too please mate, just for validity of the whole compilation.
 
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This is a database for comparing the X1950Pro and 7900GS cards. As they are both direct replacements for the X1900GT and 7900GT respectively
The 7900GS isn't a direct replacement for the 7900GT. The 7950GT was a direct replacement for the 7900GT, the 7900GS was replacing the 7800GT(some would argue the 7800GS).
 
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The 7900GS isn't a direct replacement for the 7900GT. The 7950GT was a direct replacement for the 7900GT, the 7900GS was replacing the 7800GT(some would argue the 7800GS).
Duly noted, I stated it wrong. I mean as sort of the replacement as it basically gets the same scores but was cheaper and cooler. Shall we say, the honorary replacement.
 

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there ya go :)

you gave me a nice 3d06 score :p
 
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Here's mine for my 7900 GT

See post #17.
 
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Woops, forgot this Aquamark one. This is on my Athlon 3800+.

See post #17.
 
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PB, can you edit those so we can have them as attachments. I asked the same of tigger- it means I can link them to the scores.

EDIT: Also, I will put them in order as soon as I get a few more scores to use.
 
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i will be posting mine soon.. I am gong to be gone today so when i get back tonight i will do some tweaking and see what i can come up with.
 

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Hey man, the only one using my 3800+ is Aquamark.
 

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Duly noted, I stated it wrong. I mean as sort of the replacement as it basically gets the same scores but was cheaper and cooler. Shall we say, the honorary replacement.
I guess but they certainly didn't get the same scores, the 7900GS is exactly the same as the 7900GT but has 4 less pipelines. Those 4 missing pipelines affect the scores drastically.

Of course the 7900GS tends to overclock better, which does make up for it, so I get what you are saying.

I can get scores with my 7900GTs disabling 4 pipelines later on for you.:toast:
 
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got my 7900 GS to 600/940 ... will post when i get home monday evening
 
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x1950 pwns 7900gs been proven enough times
 

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x1950 pwns 7900gs been proven enough times
oh ya? Tell me that after i get some tweaking done on my system we will see if the x1950 pwns the 7900gs :laugh:
 
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Really we should be testing these cards on an equal playing field if we're going to have comments such as mitsirfishi's (I mean no offence).

Still, it's all in good fun and it's interesting to see what different specs can achieve.
 

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#25
Here is AM3 the only one i have a SS of it is from about a month ago.... \
 

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