• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

One month after Vista released to manufacturers, there is no major rush to upgrade

Joined
Jan 29, 2006
Messages
9,066 (2.09/day)
Likes
287
Location
My house.
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
#1
It has been a month since Microsoft released their latest (somewhat) public copy of Windows Vista, and there has been no major upgrade to Windows Vista in most corporations. Since Vista is technologically solid, why is there such a slow adoption of the software? There are several reasons, but the most obvious are pointed out in a quote by Russ Cooper, a senior information security analyst at Cybertrust.
I say Microsoft never intended anybody to run Vista prior to January, What works on Vista, beyond Office 2007? I'm going to Vista ... when my VPN supplier tells me that they have drivers that work, and when my anti-virus vendor tells me that they have non-beta versions that work.
The rest of the article shows that the main reasons not to move to Windows Vista are...
  • Driver support is buggy
  • Security software is still in beta
  • Application compatibility is limited
  • All the major Vista-compatible software will be released in January.
However, once Vista is released to the public on January 30th, there should be a lot less reasons not to move to Vista. And since XP has been around for five years, there is definitely a need for a new operating system. Analysts predict that most companies will have moved to Vista by 2008.

Show full news post
 
Last edited:

Namslas90

New Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2006
Messages
4,846 (1.17/day)
Likes
535
Location
Earth
Processor AMD PII 940
Motherboard Biostar TA790GXB3
Cooling Custom Air
Memory 4GB G.SKILL (2x2)
Video Card(s) ASUS Radeon HD 5970
Storage 2X32GB ST SSd R0 + WD500GB storage
Display(s) Asus 22" Widescreen
Case Thermaltake V9 BE
Power Supply PCP&C 750 Silencer
#2
Even after the drivers are released it will still be 3-5 years before it all works right anyways. Microsoft wants us to buy it now, to finance the fixing of it in order to continue to show "good numbers" to their investors,(as allways)!!
 
Joined
Jan 15, 2005
Messages
5,458 (1.16/day)
Likes
242
Location
England
System Name Jimmy 2004's PC
Processor S754 AMD Athlon64 3200+ @ 2640MHz
Motherboard ASUS K8N
Cooling AC Freezer 64 Pro + Zalman VF1000 + 5x120mm Antec TriCool Case Fans
Memory 1GB Kingston PC3200 (2x512MB)
Video Card(s) Saphire 256MB X800 GTO @ 450MHz/560MHz (Core/Memory)
Storage 500GB Western Digital SATA II + 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax SATA
Display(s) Digimate 17" TFT (1280x1024)
Case Antec P182
Audio Device(s) Audigy 4 + Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers
Power Supply Corsair HX520W
Software Windows XP Home
#3
I'll tell you why no one wants it:

it costs a bomb and adds little funtionality over XP if you install your own AV/ Firewall software and it's a resource hog so slows things down. It looks new but IMO it doesn't really add anything to make it much better than XP, other than DX10 which could have been built to work on XP if M$ wanted to.
 

EviLZeD

New Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2006
Messages
815 (0.20/day)
Likes
47
System Name Ez - 1st custom
Processor AMD Phenom x3 8450
Motherboard Asus m3a78-em
Cooling thermaltake mini typhoon :D aerogate fan controller
Memory 6gb corsair xms 2 800mhz ddr2
Video Card(s) xpertvision HD 4850 1GB ddr3 sonic 685/1000
Storage Corsair 128gb SSD, 2x 250GB maxtor 16mb cache raid 0, 500gb 32mb cache storage
Display(s) AMD surround view 2x e172fp 17" 1x dell e248wfp 24"
Case coolermaster elite 330
Audio Device(s) creative audigy se
Power Supply hiper type r 580watt
Software Windows 7 x64
#4
yea i think its a waste i too used to xp but only time i will have to get it is when direct x 10 games go big otherwise i like xp alot
 
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
9,946 (2.25/day)
Likes
2,309
System Name MoFo 2
Processor AMD PhenomII 1100T @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair IV
Cooling Swiftec 655 pump, Apogee GT,, MCR360mm Rad, 1/2 loop.
Memory 8GB DDR3-2133 @ 1900 8.9.9.24 1T
Video Card(s) HD7970 1250/1750
Storage Agility 3 SSD 6TB RAID 0 on RAID Card
Display(s) 46" 1080P Toshiba LCD
Case Rosewill R6A34-BK modded (thanks to MKmods)
Audio Device(s) ATI HDMI
Power Supply 750W PC Power & Cooling modded (thanks to MKmods)
Software A lot.
Benchmark Scores Its fast. Enough.
#5
"Once Vista is being shipped by OEMs on all new PCs, we won’t be debating why people should move," said Andrew Brust, chief of new technology with consulting firm TwentySix New York. "It will be clear that they will need to do so, sooner or later. And honestly, people can argue until they’re blue in the face about how XP is fine, but the reality is that it’s five years old, technology has changed and a new OS is necessary."


It should also be noted that the man quoted above sleeps in Bill Gates sheets and jacks off to PCworld mags at night.
 

mout12

New Member
Joined
Mar 23, 2006
Messages
114 (0.03/day)
Likes
0
Location
Reno
#6
If you guys are going to complain about Microsoft so much, go buy a Mac. This isn't communist China - you don't have to buy MS products if you don't want to.
 
Joined
Jan 29, 2006
Messages
9,066 (2.09/day)
Likes
287
Location
My house.
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
#7
This isn't communist China - you don't have to buy MS products if you don't want to.
:laugh: Well said, though in a way MS does kinda force us to buy their product. Sure you don't have to buy Vista, but you won't get Crysis, because DX10 is a Vista exclusive. Sure you don't have to buy Vista, but you'll have to compile the drivers for your everything from scratch, which'll take several hours, as opposed to Vista where you can install it in half an hour. Sure you don't have to buy Vista, but you won't run the Vista-exclusive programs...the list goes on and on. The one problem I have with MS.
 
Joined
Jan 23, 2006
Messages
1,455 (0.34/day)
Likes
43
Location
The 13th room on the 13th floor of the 13th buildi
Processor custom dupont risk chip cpu prototype
Motherboard custom ibm x5 solid state carbon mainboard
Cooling industrial technologies prototype dupont custom heat transfer unit
Memory 6x 2gig prototype ecc hnc ddr4
Video Card(s) prototype low energy version nvidia 9 series unnumberd card
Storage 1tb solid state hdd
Display(s) 44 inch samsung plasma screen tv/monitor
Case custom ibm mobile home server case
Audio Device(s) custom Yamaha sound processing processor in spm format
Power Supply 1200watt deli cord custom made dupont type psu
Software sun unix/windows type v
#8
the only vista only programmes comming out so far seem to be ones people can do without, continually updating your office packages make little sence i still use office xp with zero problems and as for Halo 2 for pc m$ can shove that right up themselves, trying to force people to upgrade will only make people resents the product hopefully 2007 is the year a company fully utilises linux ad brings in to the masses
 
Joined
May 13, 2006
Messages
1,550 (0.37/day)
Likes
291
Location
City 17, California, U.S.A.
Processor AMD FX 8300 @ stock.//AMD 5350 AM1 APU.
Motherboard Biostar TA970.//ASUS AM1M-A.
Cooling AMD vanilla Wraith.//APU oem.//80mm Arctic Cooling fans both cases.
Memory 16G G.Skill TridentX @ 1866mhz.//8G low/low Crucial 1600mhz.
Video Card(s) Sapphire 8G RX 580 Pulse @ stock.//APU.
Storage Seagate 1T SSHD.//WD 500g Black.
Display(s) Dell S2309W 23" 1080p, shared.
Case Blue Chenming 301KB. (Vintage beauty).//Antec NSK 1300.
Audio Device(s) X-Fi Fatal1ty Xtreme Gamer.//Onboard Realtek.//Shared Logitech 2.1's.
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610.//Antec NSK 1380 psu.
Mouse Logitech MX518, shared.
Keyboard Logitech K310, shared.
Software Windows 10 Pro x64.//Windows 10 Home x64, XP Pro x86 dual boot.
Benchmark Scores FX rig is the gamer.//AM1 rig is the daily driver.
#9
"Once Vista is being shipped by OEMs on all new PCs, we won’t be debating why people should move," said Andrew Brust, chief of new technology with consulting firm TwentySix New York. "It will be clear that they will need to do so, sooner or later. And honestly, people can argue until they’re blue in the face about how XP is fine, but the reality is that it’s five years old, technology has changed and a new OS is necessary."


It should also be noted that the man quoted above sleeps in Bill Gates sheets and jacks off to PCworld mags at night.
HEY NOW! I jerk the gerkin to PC world mags also! Nah, actually it's PC Gamer.
 

Wile E

Power User
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
24,318 (5.94/day)
Likes
3,682
System Name The ClusterF**k
Processor 980X @ 4Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
Memory 3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24 1T
Video Card(s) Evga GTX 580
Storage Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB, 2xSeagate 320GB RAID0; 2xSeagate 3TB; 2xSamsung 2TB; Samsung 1.5TB
Display(s) HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS
Case Technofront Bench Station
Audio Device(s) Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
Power Supply ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software Win7 Ultimate N x64, OSX 10.8.4
#10
I'm really torn on this whole Vista thing. I'm seriously debating getting Home Premium, as I just don't need the security features that Ultimate adds. The developer of nLite is also currently developing a new program called vLite for Vista. That would be a godsend if he gets it working properly. You should really be able to trim a lot of the unnecessary fat from Vista, making it run a lot like a standard XP install. The problem I have is with pricing. MS just flat out wants too much money for this thing. I mean, come on MS, if Apple can offer a fully featured operating system for only $130, why can't you?
 

Jimmy 2004

New Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2005
Messages
5,458 (1.16/day)
Likes
242
Location
England
System Name Jimmy 2004's PC
Processor S754 AMD Athlon64 3200+ @ 2640MHz
Motherboard ASUS K8N
Cooling AC Freezer 64 Pro + Zalman VF1000 + 5x120mm Antec TriCool Case Fans
Memory 1GB Kingston PC3200 (2x512MB)
Video Card(s) Saphire 256MB X800 GTO @ 450MHz/560MHz (Core/Memory)
Storage 500GB Western Digital SATA II + 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax SATA
Display(s) Digimate 17" TFT (1280x1024)
Case Antec P182
Audio Device(s) Audigy 4 + Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers
Power Supply Corsair HX520W
Software Windows XP Home
#11
Well if people don't buy it they'll be forced to reduce their price... problem is, businesses think they need the latest and they make up a huge chunk of the market, when in reality Vista will probably ruin the speed of their PCs. The average business computer won't have much better than a 2GHz Celeron and 512MB of RAM, and that will be very slow with Vista Ultimate, which is what most large businesses will go for I expect.
 

peach1971

New Member
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
652 (0.16/day)
Likes
46
Location
Germany
Processor AMD Phenom II X2 550 @3600MHz (VCore -0.05V)
Motherboard Gigabyte MA-780G-DS3H (AMD SB700), BIOS: 04/14/09
Cooling Scythe Samurai cooled by 2x Enermax Warp 80mm ~700 RPM
Memory 2x 1GB GeIL Ultra DDR2-800 @1066 CL4-5-5-15 2T
Video Card(s) MSI R4830 OC (HD4830)
Storage Samsung 400 GB S-ATA, WD 400GB S-ATA
Display(s) Samsung 2433BW 1920 x 1200 Pixel (16:10)
Case timeless office tower ;)
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D1
Power Supply be quiet! Straight Power BQT E7-400W
Software Windows XP Pro 32bit

Wile E

Power User
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
24,318 (5.94/day)
Likes
3,682
System Name The ClusterF**k
Processor 980X @ 4Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
Memory 3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24 1T
Video Card(s) Evga GTX 580
Storage Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB, 2xSeagate 320GB RAID0; 2xSeagate 3TB; 2xSamsung 2TB; Samsung 1.5TB
Display(s) HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS
Case Technofront Bench Station
Audio Device(s) Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
Power Supply ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software Win7 Ultimate N x64, OSX 10.8.4
#13
Well if people don't buy it they'll be forced to reduce their price... problem is, businesses think they need the latest and they make up a huge chunk of the market, when in reality Vista will probably ruin the speed of their PCs. The average business computer won't have much better than a 2GHz Celeron and 512MB of RAM, and that will be very slow with Vista Ultimate, which is what most large businesses will go for I expect.
Actually, most large businesses aren't going to make the switch for some time. Where I work (American Eagle in the distribution center), for example, runs a lot of web based and networked apps for reports and such. They won't even upgrade to IE7, for fear of compatibility issues. The prospect of Vista only compounds the matter. You also have to consider the amount of retraining time they would have to spend on the upgrade. As 90% of the people that use computers there, don't really know much about them, just the basics. So much time would be wasted on simple tech calls alone, what with Vista's new security pop-ups and such.

There's an interview on page 103 of the Jan 07 issue of CPU with Joe Wilcox. He's a senior analyst for JupiterResearch, who does work for Microsoft. In it, his firm's research says that 20% of businesses with 100 or more employees, don't even have plans to upgrade at all. (I'm assuming they mean until it's absolutely necessary) Another 30% said it will be more than a year before they consider it, and half of those 30% said more than 2 years. He went on to say that the biggest push is going to be from the OEM builders. Come late January, Vista will be the only thing being sold on new machines. Microsoft is basically forcing the upgrade to those that prefer the easier route, or don't know enough to build their own pc.
 
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
9,946 (2.25/day)
Likes
2,309
System Name MoFo 2
Processor AMD PhenomII 1100T @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair IV
Cooling Swiftec 655 pump, Apogee GT,, MCR360mm Rad, 1/2 loop.
Memory 8GB DDR3-2133 @ 1900 8.9.9.24 1T
Video Card(s) HD7970 1250/1750
Storage Agility 3 SSD 6TB RAID 0 on RAID Card
Display(s) 46" 1080P Toshiba LCD
Case Rosewill R6A34-BK modded (thanks to MKmods)
Audio Device(s) ATI HDMI
Power Supply 750W PC Power & Cooling modded (thanks to MKmods)
Software A lot.
Benchmark Scores Its fast. Enough.
#14
:goodpost:



I foresee some nice tools becoming available to sysadmins built on the server side of Vista, but not much on the user side. Forced compliance is one I have been wanting to get a breakdown on for awhile, and it sucks that they took it out of the release, big time loss of clients there.
 

Easy Rhino

Linux Advocate
Joined
Nov 13, 2006
Messages
14,405 (3.56/day)
Likes
4,257
System Name VHOST01 | Desktop
Processor i7 980x | i5 7500 Kaby Lake
Motherboard Gigabyte x58 Extreme | AsRock MicroATX Z170M Exteme4
Cooling Prolimatech Megahelams | Stock
Memory 6x4 GB @ 1333 | 2x 8G Gskill Aegis DDR4 2400
Video Card(s) Nvidia GT 210 | Nvidia GTX 970 FTW+
Storage 4x2 TB Enterprise RAID5 |Corsair mForce nvme 250G
Display(s) N/A | Dell 27" 1440p 8bit GSYNC
Case Lian Li ATX Mid Tower | Corsair Carbide 400C
Audio Device(s) NA | On Board
Power Supply SeaSonic 500W Gold | Seasonic SSR-650GD Flagship Prime Series 650W Gold
Mouse N/A | Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum
Keyboard N/A | Posiden Z RGB Cherry MX Brown
Software Centos 7 | Windows 10
#15
i wish that dx10 would run on XP
 

WarEagleAU

Bird of Prey
Joined
Jul 9, 2006
Messages
10,809 (2.59/day)
Likes
529
Location
Gurley, AL
System Name Boddha Getta Boddha Getta Bah!
Processor AMD FX 6100 @ 4.432Ghz @1.382
Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO AMD 990X AMD SB950
Cooling Custom Water. EK 240MM Kit, Supreme HSF - Runs 35C
Memory 2 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance White LP @ 1.35V
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon HD 6870 980/1100
Storage WD Caviar Black 1.0TB, WD Caviar Green 1.0TB, WD 160GB
Display(s) Asus VH222/S 22: (21.5" Viewable) 1920x1080p HDMI LCD Monitor
Case NZXT White Switch 810
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek 5.1
Power Supply NZXT Hale 90 Gold Cert 750W Modular PSU
Software Windows 8.1 Profession 64 Bit
#16
Of course not. Costs too damn much to upgrade and to make pcs come with it. Too much proprietary and shit needed for it. Its ridiculous
 
Joined
Jan 2, 2007
Messages
1 (0.00/day)
Likes
0
#17
ok for those of u not minding spending the money for vista but dont like that it cant run all your applications but yet still want it... just run two partitions on your computer 1 with vista and 1 with xp thats what i did to my computer and i can switch with a simple restart of my computer
 
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
9,946 (2.25/day)
Likes
2,309
System Name MoFo 2
Processor AMD PhenomII 1100T @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair IV
Cooling Swiftec 655 pump, Apogee GT,, MCR360mm Rad, 1/2 loop.
Memory 8GB DDR3-2133 @ 1900 8.9.9.24 1T
Video Card(s) HD7970 1250/1750
Storage Agility 3 SSD 6TB RAID 0 on RAID Card
Display(s) 46" 1080P Toshiba LCD
Case Rosewill R6A34-BK modded (thanks to MKmods)
Audio Device(s) ATI HDMI
Power Supply 750W PC Power & Cooling modded (thanks to MKmods)
Software A lot.
Benchmark Scores Its fast. Enough.
#18
Funny me too. But it doesn't mean that I have to like it.



Or the shit driver support, as MS wasn't releasing the architecture of the OS untill recently, then they want to throw it to the public?
 

Wile E

Power User
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
24,318 (5.94/day)
Likes
3,682
System Name The ClusterF**k
Processor 980X @ 4Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
Memory 3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24 1T
Video Card(s) Evga GTX 580
Storage Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB, 2xSeagate 320GB RAID0; 2xSeagate 3TB; 2xSamsung 2TB; Samsung 1.5TB
Display(s) HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS
Case Technofront Bench Station
Audio Device(s) Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
Power Supply ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software Win7 Ultimate N x64, OSX 10.8.4
#19
Funny me too. But it doesn't mean that I have to like it.



Or the shit driver support, as MS wasn't releasing the architecture of the OS untill recently, then they want to throw it to the public?
They wouldn't even release the low level specs to the security app makers.
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2005
Messages
160 (0.04/day)
Likes
3
Location
California, USA
System Name Leetness
Processor Intel Q6600 @ 3ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R
Cooling Arctic Freezer 7 Pro
Memory G.Skill 2x1GB 800 HZ
Video Card(s) eVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512mb
Storage 2x Hitachi Deskstar 160gb in RAID 0
Display(s) Samsung 204BW 20"
Case Thermaltake Tsunami
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music
Power Supply OCZ StealthXStream 600w
Software Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit
#20
Vista isnt all that bad, this complaining and shit happens practically every windows release, mabey slightly more this time since there are more computer users
 

DanTheBanjoman

Señor Moderator
Joined
May 20, 2004
Messages
10,488 (2.12/day)
Likes
1,331
#21
They wouldn't even release the low level specs to the security app makers.
If you are referring to the fact that MS denied kernel access to anti virus makers (they gave them access now though) it's not MS at fault. Denying the access would be good, in fact other anti virus software does work, so it seems Symantec and whichever company was crying about it (I think it was mcafee) are at fault themselves. Oddly enough it was the makers of the crappy bloated packages that were complaining. I see a link there...

MS tried to maker Vista safer, other companies sued. Next people will complain about all kinds of bugs in Vista which could have been prevented if companies like Symantec would just learn how to program.
 

Jimmy 2004

New Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2005
Messages
5,458 (1.16/day)
Likes
242
Location
England
System Name Jimmy 2004's PC
Processor S754 AMD Athlon64 3200+ @ 2640MHz
Motherboard ASUS K8N
Cooling AC Freezer 64 Pro + Zalman VF1000 + 5x120mm Antec TriCool Case Fans
Memory 1GB Kingston PC3200 (2x512MB)
Video Card(s) Saphire 256MB X800 GTO @ 450MHz/560MHz (Core/Memory)
Storage 500GB Western Digital SATA II + 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax SATA
Display(s) Digimate 17" TFT (1280x1024)
Case Antec P182
Audio Device(s) Audigy 4 + Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers
Power Supply Corsair HX520W
Software Windows XP Home
#22
Vista isnt all that bad, this complaining and shit happens practically every windows release, mabey slightly more this time since there are more computer users
Well I think XP works great, but Vista just uses too much RAM, which is why I don't intend to upgrade to it until I have a better system. In all fairness, although compared to people on these forums my PC isn't too quick, it's a lot faster than the average PC. I mean it still kicks the sh*t out of most PCs that somewhere like PC World sells, and your average user will go there... those PCs will run so slow with Vista at its default setup.
 

DanTheBanjoman

Señor Moderator
Joined
May 20, 2004
Messages
10,488 (2.12/day)
Likes
1,331
#23
Well I think XP works great, but Vista just uses too much RAM, which is why I don't intend to upgrade to it until I have a better system. In all fairness, although compared to people on these forums my PC isn't too quick, it's a lot faster than the average PC. I mean it still kicks the sh*t out of most PCs that somewhere like PC World sells, and your average user will go there... those PCs will run so slow with Vista at its default setup.
XP with 128MB isn't heaven either. In 2-3 years everyone has 4GB of RAM and nobody will care about the RAM Vista uses. It's how the market works.
 

peach1971

New Member
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
652 (0.16/day)
Likes
46
Location
Germany
Processor AMD Phenom II X2 550 @3600MHz (VCore -0.05V)
Motherboard Gigabyte MA-780G-DS3H (AMD SB700), BIOS: 04/14/09
Cooling Scythe Samurai cooled by 2x Enermax Warp 80mm ~700 RPM
Memory 2x 1GB GeIL Ultra DDR2-800 @1066 CL4-5-5-15 2T
Video Card(s) MSI R4830 OC (HD4830)
Storage Samsung 400 GB S-ATA, WD 400GB S-ATA
Display(s) Samsung 2433BW 1920 x 1200 Pixel (16:10)
Case timeless office tower ;)
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D1
Power Supply be quiet! Straight Power BQT E7-400W
Software Windows XP Pro 32bit
#24
Did you read about the tilt bits in my link above?
It´s also a CPU sucker for ridiculous reasons!

Damned "premium content" :banghead:
 

Jimmy 2004

New Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2005
Messages
5,458 (1.16/day)
Likes
242
Location
England
System Name Jimmy 2004's PC
Processor S754 AMD Athlon64 3200+ @ 2640MHz
Motherboard ASUS K8N
Cooling AC Freezer 64 Pro + Zalman VF1000 + 5x120mm Antec TriCool Case Fans
Memory 1GB Kingston PC3200 (2x512MB)
Video Card(s) Saphire 256MB X800 GTO @ 450MHz/560MHz (Core/Memory)
Storage 500GB Western Digital SATA II + 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax SATA
Display(s) Digimate 17" TFT (1280x1024)
Case Antec P182
Audio Device(s) Audigy 4 + Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers
Power Supply Corsair HX520W
Software Windows XP Home
#25
XP with 128MB isn't heaven either. In 2-3 years everyone has 4GB of RAM and nobody will care about the RAM Vista uses. It's how the market works.
The good old days of Windows 95... only needed 8MB of RAM didn't you? My Win95 PC had 16MB but got upgraded to 80MB - that was when PCs used SIMMs so you bought the RAM in pairs. It was really quick for a Windows 95 PC after that and it was still working more or less ok in 2003 when the CD drive messed and I didn't see the point repairing it so got rid of it.