OSS now supports X-FI!!!

[jonmcc33]

All This shows that linux is getting popular. Lets see if they start biting into M$'s share in the future

That's not really going to happen. Mac will have a bigger chance of biting into it than Linux will.

I personally can't believe that America's Army dropped Linux support with version 2.50. That's pathetic!

 

[xfire]

There is good chance of it happening if more and more people are shown how good it is.

 

[pagalms]

Looks like my PC is black hole for Linux. I've tried 5 different installations in past 3 days with no luck
I want to try out these drivers so much, but i can't even install Linux

 

[xfire]

Are all those the latest versions. Try disabling ACPI and doing it.

 

[FatForester]

At first I thought this was a VERY cruel joke, but it seems like you aren't lying! I'll have to give these a try this afternoon. I thought the OSS X-fi drivers were at a stand-still.. so what happened?

 

[pagalms]

Are all those the latest versions. Try disabling ACPI and doing it.

Ubuntu 8.04 beta 32bit - shows hdb I/O read error after loading screen
Ubuntu 8.04 beta AMD64 - Black screen instead of loading bar. cd-rom reads something and then stops.
OpenSuse 10.3 32bit - can't install lot of packages.
Ubuntu 7.10 AMD64 - same as 8.04 AMD64
Ubuntu 7.10 32bit - it stops when "kernel loading" message appears.

But funniest thing is - i had succesfully installed Ubuntu on my PC a lot of times before i got teh Vista. Looks like Vista is the root of all evil

 

[xfire]

Just disable HPET under ACPI settings of bios and try.

 

[pagalms]

Only thing i found in bios with ACPI was "ACPI suspend time", which lets me choose between "S3 (Suspend to RAM)" and "S1 (Power on suspend)".
Bios - Phoenix Award v6.00PG, board - Abit KN9-SLI.
I didn't change any BIOS settings or hardware from last time i got Ubuntu working on my pc.

 

[xfire]

May be its unable to read from the NTFS format of vista. Remove the HDD in which Vista is and try.

 

[btarunr]

That's not really going to happen. Mac will have a bigger chance of biting into it than Linux will.

I personally can't believe that America's Army dropped Linux support with version 2.50. That's pathetic!

I'll have to go with xfire's views here because it's way more easier to make a switch from Windows to Linux than to Mac. Mac means a 1000 odd dollars worth new hardware. Linux means a 1000 odd MB worth free download added to your existing hardware. Now that even complex hardware components such as X-Fi and video-cards (at least NVidia put in a great deal of with their Linux/BSD drivers), it's pointing more towards Linux gaining momentum.

And yeah, America's Army isn't indicative of Linux losing momentum. Computers used for playing games is still a minority and people use Linux for a host of other reasons, of which they use a Mac for.

 

[jonmcc33]

Ubuntu 8.04 beta 32bit - shows hdb I/O read error after loading screen
Ubuntu 8.04 beta AMD64 - Black screen instead of loading bar. cd-rom reads something and then stops.
OpenSuse 10.3 32bit - can't install lot of packages.
Ubuntu 7.10 AMD64 - same as 8.04 AMD64
Ubuntu 7.10 32bit - it stops when "kernel loading" message appears.

But funniest thing is - i had succesfully installed Ubuntu on my PC a lot of times before i got teh Vista. Looks like Vista is the root of all evil

Did you select KDE for OpenSUSE? Gnome doesn't work too well with it.

You have to add repositories in OpenSUSE and will be able to install anything.

http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories

http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories

 

[jonmcc33]

I'll have to go with xfire's views here because it's way more easier to make a switch from Windows to Linux than to Mac. Mac means a 1000 odd dollars worth new hardware. Linux means a 1000 odd MB worth free download added to your existing hardware. Now that even complex hardware components such as X-Fi and video-cards (at least NVidia put in a great deal of with their Linux/BSD drivers), it's pointing more towards Linux gaining momentum.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you about which is easier to switch to. But Mac has those lovely commercials that convince a lot of "average Joe" people that Macs just work better.

If I ever spent money on a Mac I'd feel like I am throwing my money away to be honest. I got a spare Dell Optiplex GX270 from my work, put a pair of SATA hard drives in it and have OpenSUSE running on it with no problems. Everything I have installed OpenSUSE on just works.

 

[btarunr]

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you about which is easier to switch to. But Mac has those lovely commercials that convince a lot of "average Joe" people that Macs just work better.

If I ever spent money on a Mac I'd feel like I am throwing my money away to be honest. I got a spare Dell Optiplex GX270 from my work, put a pair of SATA hard drives in it and have OpenSUSE running on it with no problems. Everything I have installed OpenSUSE on just works.

Today's 'Average Joe' is smarter than what defines that term. With Ubuntu's popularity on the rise, even without expensive commercials, the guy on the street knows he needn't buy a totally new machine to run Linux (though most curious 'average Joes' don't quite know the fact about Ubuntu being a Linux distribution. Oh well, they get their alternative alright.

 

[pagalms]

May be its unable to read from the NTFS format of vista. Remove the HDD in which Vista is and try.

Damn, i wanted to install it on second partition of Vista's HDD. Second HDD is full of all my stuff and third is old and freakin' loud.

Did you select KDE for OpenSUSE? Gnome doesn't work too well with it.

You have to add repositories in OpenSUSE and will be able to install anything.

http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories

http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories

Nop, i selected Gnome for it. Ok, i'll try with KDE.

 

[jonmcc33]

Today's 'Average Joe' is smarter than what defines that term. With Ubuntu's popularity on the rise, even without expensive commercials, the guy on the street knows he needn't buy a totally new machine to run Linux (though most curious 'average Joes' don't quite know the fact about Ubuntu being a Linux distribution. Oh well, they get their alternative alright.

The average Joe to me is someone that takes their computer in to Geek Squad for any problems. No, I do not work there and yes I do laugh at how much that place rips people off. I'm actually boycotting Best Buy because of Geek Squad and what they did to my mother's PC that I built for her. Long story but they wanted to charge her $700 for a $50 PSU and $50 motherboard replacement when both were fine.

Linux might be a bit too much for the average Joe. It's not that user friendly as you think. There are a few things that need command line interaction which the average Joe will never comprehend. The average Joe will not understand that you cannot put Windows applications and executables and run them on Linux. Sure, there is Wine but Wine is far from perfect.

I'm far from the average user, having worked IT support for large companies for the past 10 years of my life. I even need to do some digging to find out how to do things in Linux. At least I am familiar with Unix commands after having done a little bit of it in the USAF. I didn't find "converting" to Linux to be that easy at all. I went through quite a bit of distros before I found one that just worked, and even with OpenSUSE I needed to add repositories myself.

 

[xfire]

Try it on the old one you'll be suprised to see its performance with linux. My old one used to be like that but not with linux.

As to popularity of Ubuntu Dell choose it over other distro's so that gives it a boost and for ubuntu ads there will be none but it is comprimised by Merchandise and free shipping of Cd's. Just have to get Bill Gates to wear a Ubuntu Shirt . Anyway for a shocker type ubuntu logo in google image search with safe search disabled.

Edit: The reason they try to run .exe is because they are used to using Windows from the star. Imagine for once if Ubuntu was the most used, everyone would be thinking why .deb doesnt work on windows. Though Linux isnt easy in all areas, but the areas in which it beats windows is done by a fair margin.

 

[jonmcc33]

Nop, i selected Gnome for it. Ok, i'll try with KDE.

Yeah, I had to find that out myself. It's nice that they offer it as an option but KDE is where it's at for OpenSUSE. Plus, don't forget to add the repositories.

Go to Lizard > Applications > System > Administrator Settings > (root password) > Software > Software Repositories

Just add the URLs. You want Oss, Non-oss and Packman minimum. You can add nVIDIA or ATi if that's the video card you have. The more you add the more software options you have to install.

 

[pagalms]

Ok thanks, i'm burning OpenSuse on DVD right now and i hope it will install this time.
edit: Holy polarbear with yellow chainsaw, it worked! I'm on OpenSuse now!

 

[jonmcc33]

Ok thanks, i'm burning OpenSuse on DVD right now and i hope it will install this time.
edit: Holy polarbear with yellow chainsaw, it worked! I'm on OpenSuse now!

And this is for you too: http://packages.opensuse-community.org/

Run a search on any software package for your OpenSUSE version and it has one click installs for them. No need to type in code/etc. Really useful as well.

 

[jonmcc33]

Try it on the old one you'll be suprised to see its performance with linux. My old one used to be like that but not with linux.

As to popularity of Ubuntu Dell choose it over other distro's so that gives it a boost and for ubuntu ads there will be none but it is comprimised by Merchandise and free shipping of Cd's. Just have to get Bill Gates to wear a Ubuntu Shirt . Anyway for a shocker type ubuntu logo in google image search with safe search disabled.

Edit: The reason they try to run .exe is because they are used to using Windows from the star. Imagine for once if Ubuntu was the most used, everyone would be thinking why .deb doesnt work on windows. Though Linux isnt easy in all areas, but the areas in which it beats windows is done by a fair margin.

The area it beats Windows in is security. You don't need to worry about a virus when using Linux although AV programs are offered for it.

 

[pagalms]

Thank you so much for help

 

[jonmcc33]

Thank you so much for help

No problem, and FYI in the event that you missed it, since you seem to like AMD you now use something that AMD is an official sponsor of: http://en.opensuse.org/Sponsors/AMD

 

[pagalms]

One more question - how can i set OpenSuse to use OSS? I have installed these drivers (x86 rpm on 32bit OpenSuse), but there's no volume icon and sound too.

 

[jonmcc33]

One more question - how can i set OpenSuse to use OSS? I have installed these drivers (x86 rpm on 32bit OpenSuse), but there's no volume icon and sound too.

Best bet is to check the website: http://www.opensound.com/linux.html

I don't have mine with a Creative Labs sound card so I cannot speak from experience.

 

[xfire]

The area it beats Windows in is security. You don't need to worry about a virus when using Linux although AV programs are offered for it.

Other areas in which it beats windows
Stability
Installation Speed
Startup may be as slow as windows(with all the HDD checking and all) but once it starts it's faster.
I found my net to be a a few KB's faster which might have to do with the lack of firewall.
Synaptic searches,gets and installs the program for you.
Even if GUI crashes one can always go to the console or just restart Xserver and the list goes on.