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Oven Baking a R9 280X

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Hi, looking at the instructions at this thread:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/oven-baking-a-6870-success-and-more-cards.212136/page-3
I will give it a try baking in the oven a MSI R9 280X Gaming 3G. The card started to flicker a few months ago, then I got grey screen and Windows 7 Freeze during gaming and later the vertical grey/white strings. I have to confess I used it for Boinc/Seti@Home in the last year. Also, the card sits with the heatsinc downwards in the CPU.
I bought new thermal pads and also new thermal Artic X4 paste too.

I have an spare 6870 so I will test the procedure with that first.

Any advice is welcome. Wish me luck!

Regards,
Oliver
 

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Iv done it a hand full of times with great results. I raise mine up off a baking sheet with aluminium foil balls.
 

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Hi, looking at the instructions at this thread:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/oven-baking-a-6870-success-and-more-cards.212136/page-3
I will give it a try baking in the oven a MSI R9 280X Gaming 3G. The card started to flicker a few months ago, then I got grey screen and Windows 7 Freeze during gaming and later the vertical grey/white strings. I have to confess I used it for Boinc/Seti@Home in the last year. Also, the card sits with the heatsinc downwards in the CPU.
I bought new thermal pads and also new thermal Artic X4 paste too.

I have an spare 6870 so I will test the procedure with that first.

Any advice is welcome. Wish me luck!

Regards,
Oliver
Dont try a reflow, flicker results from clocks or voltage being too low. Ask msi for a new bios.

Post your white sticker from card here also give us a GPU-Z screenshot to see what bios you have.
 

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Dont try a reflow, flicker results from clocks or voltage being too low. Ask msi for a new bios.

Post your white sticker from card here also give us a GPU-Z screenshot to see what bios you have.
Tks, I have the GPU ready to bake so I can't connect to the computer. Will wait until the new thermal pad/paste arrive, assemble it, connect and get the GPU-Z screenshot. It will take 8 to 10 days.

Meanwhile I have the white stickers, they say:
SN: 602-V277-38SB1401096xxx
EAN: 4 719072 314026
UPC-A: 8 24142 01599 5

Then a little white label says: E116458170

The PCB says: V277 VER: 1.2

Iv done it a hand full of times with great results. I raise mine up off a baking sheet with aluminium foil balls.
Tks, do you cover also the capacitors? I cleaned with a toothbrush and neutral hand soap, washed with water, immediately dried and cleaned with contact cleaner spray, let a few hours to dry. Removed all plastic and paper labels. The contact cleaner is great for removing the glue from the labels.

Then covered the plastic parts with aluminum foil and raised it with it too. Put an inverted pirex glass pan and the card on top of it with the chips facing upwards. I done all this with the 6870 that I got from a coworker. He said it does not work anymore. But will wait a little more for baking the R9 it seems, because thats my primary game card.

Also I let the card inside the oven for 2 minutes with door open, then moved it to the kitchen, didn't fan cooled it.

Regards,
Oliver
 
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A 285 is a dual gpu, it will work but the card is plaiged with heat issue's.
Should start your own thread....
 
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That thread title suddenly made me wonder if anyone has made an Easy Bake Oven case mod. :p
 
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That thread title suddenly made me wonder if anyone has made an Easy Bake Oven case mod. :p
I think Nvidia tried that already with the Fermi series :roll:
Self baking GPU's.
 
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I removed all stickers that could burn

Preheat to 190c leave in for 13-15mins
open oven pull tray out let cool a bit before removing fully out oven

I made a jig for my gtx 560 where the pcd lay on corners of dry wall screws and cabled tied to mounting bracket
the 560 lasted for 4 months before had to do it again,again ,and again till was replaced

The issue i had was drivers started failing then months later got big green squares all over screen - Vga mem test failed with errors
After bake - no errors on Vga mem test
 

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I removed all stickers that could burn

Preheat to 190c leave in for 13-15mins
open oven pull tray out let cool a bit before removing fully out oven

I made a jig for my gtx 560 where the pcd lay on corners of dry wall screws and cabled tied to mounting bracket
the 560 lasted for 4 months before had to do it again,again ,and again till was replaced

The issue i had was drivers started failing then months later got big green squares all over screen - Vga mem test failed with errors
After bake - no errors on Vga mem test
How do you gpu mem test?

Take a picture of all white stickers and post them here please, it looks like some info is missing...
Will do. Also, this card had a bad fan and was RMA after 15 days of receiving it. So I think the stickers are not the same as the originals.
 
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That thread title suddenly made me wonder if anyone has made an Easy Bake Oven case mod. :p
Omg it's offtopic a bit, but I might try that with a laptop I have here that I blew up the screen with my fist. I thought of converting it into a tower, why not an easy bake oven?! I could game and, in the same time, my niece will prepare me some cookie.
 
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There are many ways. But I don't put a lot of faith in any of them. Mainly because GDDR is ECC memory. So "errors" do not necessarily means there's a problem. In fact, it can just as well mean the VRAM is working perfectly fine.

For example, the GDDR5 on my 280X runs perfectly stable and produces no artifacts @ 1850MHz. But HWiNFO64 reports a massive amount of "GPU Memory Errors".
hwinfo gpu mem err.PNG
 
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Baking is bandaid sergery nothing more, may work for a few months or limp but eventually..........
 
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And, according to a popular Youtube "logic board repairman", that would be because it's not the solder "reflow" that even fixes the problem(s). It's the heat applied to the IC(s) that works to temporarily fix internal "bad connections"(for lack of a better term). Which eventually work themselves "loose" again(one more time...for lack of better terms). He's a staunch proponent against "reballing", particularly GPUs, for that reason. He claims it never works for more than a very temporary fix. And has nothing at all to do with the solder. It's the heating required to melt the solder that actually does the trick.

 
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Here are the photos, the one in the oven is a broken 6870 I used to test. The R9 is waiting for the thermal pads/paste so I can boot up and get GPU-Z info.
IMG_0589.jpg
IMG_0588.jpg
IMG_0585.jpg

Baking is bandaid sergery nothing more, may work for a few months or limp but eventually..........
Thats my idea, to get a few extra months out of a R9. Maybe until Christmas ;)
 
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I tried to bake a GPU once and it didn't work for me.

I have a Sapphire R9-280X Toxic card in a Linux box that has been like the Energizer Bunny.
It runs like the day it was delivered to me brand new.
 
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Any update, any results?

This reminded me that I have a dead GTX 670 which I may be able to bring back through the ancient and forbidden knowledge of oven-necromancy.
 
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I've baked a few GPU's and complete laptop motherboards as well. Out of 7 i think 5 succeeded. But when done too short, it will fail within a small period of time again, and when done too long, you might actually brick the thing you are attempting to bake. When done proper, the card or mb can last for a really long time.

Most important set of rule is to properly let it cool off. Remove it from the oven and carefully place it where it can cool down. Do not move, touch, shake or drop as the solder is 'weak' and can actually 'move' components from the PCB. It's very fragile, trust me.

I always did 200 degrees at a minute of 6 to 7. Do not inhale any of the fumes coming out of it and make sure the place is properly ventilated.
 
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And, according to a popular Youtube "logic board repairman", that would be because it's not the solder "reflow" that even fixes the problem(s). It's the heat applied to the IC(s) that works to temporarily fix internal "bad connections"(for lack of a better term). Which eventually work themselves "loose" again(one more time...for lack of better terms). He's a staunch proponent against "reballing", particularly GPUs, for that reason. He claims it never works for more than a very temporary fix. And has nothing at all to do with the solder. It's the heating required to melt the solder that actually does the trick.

So he's against it because it works, but not for the reason people think?
 
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So he's against it because it works, but not for the reason people think?
He's against it because it's not repair.
When you repair something properly, there should be an expected reliability period, which you perceive as "repair warranty" on a piece of paper at the end.
Even if it's non-professional self-repair, it should still follow the basic human logic. I bet you don't patch your leaking sewage pipes with dried cow shit and bubble gum, even though it might work in 30% of the leaking pipe cases. If a passenger door in your car won't close, you don't use a rubber-band-to-the-driver's-door hack as a permanent solution.
With "baking", results are unpredictable at best. You may either throw your card into remission for a few days, weeks or months, or you can immediately kill it.

In late 2000s, when this "baking" craze has took off with great speed(due to 8000/9000-series cards dying like flies), it bred a shitton of "PC repair specialists", who's only real skill was to be agile and endurable enough to circle-jerk a hot air wand for 10 minutes. "Baking" and "reballing" became a universal remedy for any GPU/Motherboard/Laptop problem, regardless of the cause: first you bake it, and if it won't work - reball it.

I make the majority of my living with component level repair, and I can tell you an awful lot of ridiculous stories about baking.
About once or twice every month I'm getting either an ASUS Zenbook or any other ultrabook w/ most of its components soldered on motherboard, that was previously "repaired" or "unsuccessfully repaired" in various small workshops in Kiev. Some of those have faulty soldered RAM or VRAM, some of those had trivial backlight issues, but what was the first thing those "repairsmen" did? Of course bake the fucking GPU or the PCH! Any AMD-based HP envy laptop comes pre-filled with solder flux and remnants of aluminium sticky tape. Some managed to charge customers upwards of $150 for a GPU "replacement", even though the original GPU corner standoffs were still intact.

Best case scenario - the chip stays alive and all I have to do is clean the shit out of it beforehand, and then eliminate the original problem and do some thorough testing. Worst case - they mercilessly kill a perfectly functional GPU for no reason and the customer still has to pay me for diagnostics.

Just last month I had a Dell Precision M4600 which only needed a power jack replacement, but some dumbass thought that random shutdowns were caused by a malfunctioning NV Quadro GPU, so he baked the shit out of it. Now it's nearly dead (some VRAM banks died, and GPU was giving artifacts even after VRAM fix), so after the trivial jack repair I had to remove the GPU, leaving the customer only with Intel HD graphics (though, he was very happy with improved battery life).

I also have an entire collection of GPUs which were tortured by baking, while the real problem of "no image" or "artifacts" was totally unrelated to the GPU.

So, as a professional I don't give a flying fuck if baking helped some people to prolong their GPU life. All I care about, is that sooner or later this GPU or laptop is gonna end up on my desk and I'm gonna have to deal with consequences of someone else's incompetence, starting with explaining the concept of "reflow and reballing is not repair" all the way to breaking down why do I charge so much comparing to those other guys (since I actually have to buy replacement parts and include them in my final bill).
 
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