Overclocking an FX6300, should I continue?

[Thimblewad]

Stable! Seriously, if it were me, I'd start using the CPU an hour ago.

Should I bump it to 4.5 GHz, leave the voltage and stress test again?

 

[Mathragh]

Should I bump it to 4.5 GHz, leave the voltage and stress test again?

aye go for it!

 

[FireFox]

Should I bump it to 4.5 GHz, leave the voltage and stress test again?

Why do you persist in getting more than 4.4Ghz, aren't you happy with what you have achieved?

Look, i have a board that would knock down your ( no offense ) and i have it at 4.5GHz, i can OC higher way higher than you but why to put in such stress the board and all the rest of the hardwares plus you're just willing to BLOW the whole system.

aye go for it!

You shouldn't be telling him to push more.

 

[ASOT]

STOP! That mobo is a crap,u want to fry or burn ur cpu ? ))))) Is a 4+1 phase design...

Honestly best advise for u dont go more or u really want to change cpu/mobo

Edit: 4.4 GHz or 4.5 GHz is bullshet not big difference,keep vcore under 1.4v for cpu life.

 

[FireFox]

CPU cooler: Arctic Freezer Extreme rev. 1.0.

The PSU should by all means be able to cope with the system.

Other PC cooling(my thread on TPU):
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Also, I'm not planning on upgrading the motherboard since Zen is coming out and I don't feel like spending money on my PC ATM, planning on a bigger upgrade next year (mobo, RAM, CPU, GPU).

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I like your Cooler, it looks pretty cool

 

[krusha03]

Should I bump it to 4.5 GHz, leave the voltage and stress test again?

What I would do instead is keep it to 4.4Ghz and reduce the voltage

 

[Thimblewad]

I'm staying on 4.4 GHz for safety reasons. I'll try to decrease the voltage by one step and then do stress testing again.

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I like your Cooler, it looks pretty cool

Oh, that's the rev 2.0, mine has black stickers on the side and on the front, like this:

 

[Jism]

I have reverted the clocks back to 4.4 GHz as stated before and I'm now running the Prime95 small FFTs test. Things seem to be going just fine actually. I have a problem when I, for example, pause a video (VLC Media PLayer), leave it sitting there and after 20-30 minutes my computer freezes (odd colored vertical lines). I have already determined that the CPU is causing this, but how come it happens when idliung on video and never on full load?

Edit: Prime95 small FFTs → 4,4 GHz @ 1.475 V → max. temp. 58-59 °C → no errors for now

Your idle vs load voltage is causing this. Look, your system is far from stable. Revert back to 4.3Ghz and make SURE it's stable before even going further. Your just chasing Ghz's and your about to blow your motherboard that cant cope with the power usage of higher clocks.

Add some cooling to your VRM's (step 1), get a stable baseline (i.e 4.3Ghz 24/7) (step 2) and test with Intel Burn test (step 3).

Note that the last tool will defenitly make things go 10 degrees hotter then usual, and your motherboard can BLOW because of this. If you add proper cooling to your VRM, they will throttle LESS upon stress testing.

I've played and tweaked with AMD platforms for years. I'm still with a decent and high end AM3+ with DDR3 2400 and it defenitly ROCKS when tweaked proper. Dont blow your stuff yet.

 

[eidairaman1]

Your idle vs load voltage is causing this. Look, your system is far from stable. Revert back to 4.3Ghz and make SURE it's stable before even going further. Your just chasing Ghz's and your about to blow your motherboard that cant cope with the power usage of higher clocks.


Add some cooling to your VRM's (step 1), get a stable baseline (i.e 4.3Ghz 24/7) (step 2) and test with Intel Burn test (step 3).

Note that the last tool will defenitly make things go 10 degrees hotter then usual, and your motherboard can BLOW because of this. If you add proper cooling to your VRM, they will throttle LESS upon stress testing.

I've played and tweaked with AMD platforms for years. I'm still with a decent and high end AM3+ with DDR3 2400 and it defenitly ROCKS when tweaked proper. Dont blow your stuff yet.

Another note add a fan on back of motherboard where socket is mounted.

Active cool vrms and chipset too

 

[Jism]

The only reason to apply cooling to VRM's is to make sure they are not throttling back to 'safe' values because of the heat. Most modern VRM's are designed to work at a certain temperature, but when oc'ing / pushing your going beyond that.

And when it's throttling it's basicly not giving enough amps / juice to your CPU causing it to throttle back in CPU speed. Something you dont want.

Cooling VRM's will only work to a certain level; at some point you cant sqeeze out more then they are designed for. To put it simply; activly cool them, and have a safe / solid base clock from 4.3GHz to work up from. It's not always the CPU vcore that needs to be raised but in some cases you need to combine MP oc'ing with a higher FSB. My Vishera has troubles reaching up to higher MP's as well, but is stable at 5GHz.

 

[eidairaman1]

The only reason to apply cooling to VRM's is to make sure they are not throttling back to 'safe' values because of the heat. Most modern VRM's are designed to work at a certain temperature, but when oc'ing / pushing your going beyond that.

And when it's throttling it's basicly not giving enough amps / juice to your CPU causing it to throttle back in CPU speed. Something you dont want.

Cooling VRM's will only work to a certain level; at some point you cant sqeeze out more then they are designed for. To put it simply; activly cool them, and have a safe / solid base clock from 4.3GHz to work up from. It's not always the CPU vcore that needs to be raised but in some cases you need to combine MP oc'ing with a higher FSB. My Vishera has troubles reaching up to higher MP's as well, but is stable at 5GHz.

Yeah, I got lucky with mine, as its mp oc only. I was thinking of applying active direct cooling to the vrm and back of cpu myself besides 4 case fans and 2 on the cpu. Otherwise 5.2GHz or faster will be water chilled. My ram can run at 2400 easy too with the trident memory timings.

 

[Jism]

Try working with higher HTT and MP. A high MP is something AMD cpu's hardly copy with. I.e with 240Mhz HTT and a slightly lower MP it's possible to archieve 4.4Ghz and higher.

I had the same problems with Vishera, going to 5GHz. You need to combine a higher HTT with a lower MP.

 

[eidairaman1]

Try working with higher HTT and MP. A high MP is something AMD cpu's hardly copy with. I.e with 240Mhz HTT and a slightly lower MP it's possible to archieve 4.4Ghz and higher.

I had the same problems with Vishera, going to 5GHz. You need to combine a higher HTT with a lower MP.

Default is 2200 on the board, im at 2400, 2600 the rig gets buggy.

200x25.5 is where im at if im not mistaken.

 

[Jism]

HTT = FSB. Not the "HT"

 

[eidairaman1]

HTT = FSB. Not the "HT"

I do notice when fsb is messed with of course the ram speed is altered, no divider to lock the ram speed out- thus timings would need to be adjusted.

Cya 2morrow-got interview at 9 AM.

 

[Jism]

When you lower the memory divider, and raise the HTT (FSB), at some point you will get back to original memory speed. Go to your bios, lower memory divider with 1 notch, upp the FSB / HTT and you'll see what i'm talking about.

For example, when going 300MHz HTT, and lower your memory divider to 1333MHz, you will automaticly get 1866 or 2000MHz in return. I had this on my Crosshair IV / Thuban X6 which did 4.2Ghz daily.

Timings do not get out of sync, they just stay the way they are. This is just very basic OC knowledgde. AMD systems are great fun to OC.

 

[eidairaman1]

When you lower the memory divider, and raise the HTT (FSB), at some point you will get back to original memory speed. Go to your bios, lower memory divider with 1 notch, upp the FSB / HTT and you'll see what i'm talking about.

For example, when going 300MHz HTT, and lower your memory divider to 1333MHz, you will automaticly get 1866 or 2000MHz in return. I had this on my Crosshair IV / Thuban X6 which did 4.2Ghz daily.

Timings do not get out of sync, they just stay the way they are. This is just very basic OC knowledgde. AMD systems are great fun to OC.

Was on a Athlon XP and a P4 before this rig in my specs.

 

[Jism]

I always prefer FSB / HTT oc'ing. Your simply raising the rest of the system's performance, and not just the CPU with a free MP.

Actually 4.4GHz is slower with 200MHz FSB/HTT compared to 300MHz HTT and 4.2GHz clock. You'd still use normal memory timings.

 

[Kanan]

Some AMD guy needs to tell him how to overclock not just the CPU but Hyper Transport etc. too - that CPU has bottlenecks if just the CPU core is increased, it even has bottlenecks if untouched - they get fixed a bit when overclocking the rest with it. Also again: don't put too much stress on the mainboard, it's not a overclocker mainboard, unless you know the risks and want the life of the hardware to be decreased just because you buy new stuff in a few months anyway. I still wouldn't do it. 4500, 4400, 4300, the performance difference is negligabe, but the power consumption and stress on motherboard rise stellar. Go for 4300 or 4200 if you ask me - whatever still works with a clearly lower voltage.

 

[Jism]

Exactly. At some point, the power requirement for a few extra mhz more is absurd and will cause huge stress on that motherboard. You should settle for 4.2 to 4.3Ghz with a higher FSB and all that stuff. It offers more performance then 4.4Ghz CPU with a higher MP alone.

 

[Thimblewad]

Guys, I have achieved Prime95 stability with a clock speed of 4.4 GHz (19 x 233 MHz) @ +1.475 V, FSB is 233 MHz, HT link is at 2.8 GHz, NB frequency is at 2,1 GHz.

What now? haha.

 

[Kanan]

Guys, I have achieved Prime95 stability with a clock speed of 4.4 GHz (19 x 233 MHz) @ +1.475 V, FSB is 233 MHz, HT link is at 2.8 GHz, NB frequency is at 2,1 GHz.

What now? haha.

You're not really listening to advice do you? Okay good luck on not having the pc go bust with that high voltage on a mediocre non overclocker Mainboard. Some people just seem to learn the hard way.

 

[Nicholas Peyton]

Hi guys!

for the past few days I was tinkering with the frequencies in my PC. I managed to get my RAM from 1600 MHz to 1864 MHz without changing any of the timings so I think that's quite an achievement.

My next question is regarding my CPU. I managed to get over 4,6 GHz (CPU-Z validation) with it, but it doesn't seem stable (PC shut off once - power supply not strong enough? Temps are too low for critical shutdown) and I pulled it back down to 4,4 GHz.

A stable 4,4 GHz OC is achieved with +0.175 V on the core. Should I go higher? Full load temperatures do not exceed 45 °C at the moment.

Thanks!

P.S.: CPU-Z screenshot
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Try HWINFO64 for CPU temp monitoring. I have an AMD FX processor and HDINFO64 is the only truly reliable CPU temp monitoring software I use. Also the "package" temp on my FX jumps about a lot (thus I know its not accurate).

If on HWINFO64 you are not going above 60c then personally I would continue (but only once you are PRIME95 stable under 60c). Anything over 60c on these chips are probably throttling.

Also HWINFO64 will show you throttling in real time as you will see the core clock multiplier setting the clock lower for each individual core as it throttles. It also does it very fast so you can refer to the "minimum" core clock column on HWINFO64 to see if you've been throttled at all (it would show something significantly lower than 4600mhz)

If your throttling then you need more cooling before you can really test if you are stable and move on/up.

 

[eidairaman1]

Im at 5.1GHz and never see my cpu touch 60 in gaming even though in occt i seen it hit 85 and not have ill effects.

 

[ASOT]

You're not really listening to advice do you? Okay good luck on not having the pc go bust with that high voltage on a mediocre non overclocker Mainboard. Some people just seem to learn the hard way.

Probably a kid )))) 1.4v on that mobo with that power delivery phase