P5N32-E SLI and Striker Extreme

[WSP]

Hi guys,

I just got used Asus P5N32-E SLI board, and what amazes me is when I pull up the 'P5N32-E SLI' sticker on the board, it printed on the board as STRIKER EXTREME.

I wonder if striker extreme bios will work on this mobo. I've search this whole thread but nothing I can found about that issues.

any help would be appreciated

 

[Mussels]

Hi guys,

I just got used Asus P5N32-E SLI board, and what amazes me is when I pull up the 'P5N32-E SLI' sticker on the board, it printed on the board as STRIKER EXTREME.

I wonder if striker extreme bios will work on this mobo. I've search this whole thread but nothing I can found about that issues.

any help would be appreciated

asus did that a lot. its quite likely it can be flashed to the other BIOS.

 

[WSP]

I've downloaded striker extreme bios...and I will update the bios tonight.
wish me luck m8

 

[JrRacinFan]

I don't see an advantage of going to a striker extreme bios, the P5N32-E bios is pretty good. Also running the risk of bad flashing your board.

 

[WSP]

I got this message:

"ROM ID in the file is incompatible with this existing BIOS!"

FYI, I use asus ez flash 2 from bios...any idea how to flash this board with striker extreme bios?

I don't see an advantage of going to a striker extreme bios, the P5N32-E bios is pretty good. Also running the risk of bad flashing your board.

just curious. but if this will damage the board i.e bad flash, maybe I will abandon that and stick with P5N32-E sli bios 1903 which is indeed pretty good.I'm running E5300@3500mhz with Intel stock heatsink, a GTX260 and GTS250 for folding.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Just saying if it was like a giga board with dual bios I wouldn't have brought up that point, mind you even if the flash goes good the bios may still not work. If you want to continue I can edit this post and attach Winflash. That should get you to where you want.

 

[WSP]

after searching the internet and I cant find anything related to the issues I brought up, I finally decided not to flash the bios.

thanks for you all

cheers

 

[Helper]

I got this message:

"ROM ID in the file is incompatible with this existing BIOS!"

FYI, I use asus ez flash 2 from bios...any idea how to flash this board with striker extreme bios?

just curious. but if this will damage the board i.e bad flash, maybe I will abandon that and stick with P5N32-E sli bios 1903 which is indeed pretty good.I'm running E5300@3500mhz with Intel stock heatsink, a GTX260 and GTS250 for folding.

If EZ Flash doesn't work, then you can try Award Flash. P5N32 was basicly a lower-end Striker. They share same PCBs but I dunno whether the flash will be possible or not.

I'm sure you can't have E5300 at 3.5 GHZ %100 stable on that mobo. You're prolly having wrong calculations once in a while. In Nvidia chipset boards, you have to find exact right volts to clock all stable. If you undervolt, it crashes after some time. Overvolting is even worse... system won't even boot up most of the time coz 680i chipset likes low volts only, it also has weak power circuitry. I'm not even mentioning temps with stock cooler... you should downclock that for folding, I'd also suggest a better heatsink.

 

[LiveOrDie]

the striker bios would be a waste of time on that board the striker has leds and other settings that the P5N32 dont have.

 

[newtekie1]

Hi guys,

I just got used Asus P5N32-E SLI board, and what amazes me is when I pull up the 'P5N32-E SLI' sticker on the board, it printed on the board as STRIKER EXTREME.

I wonder if striker extreme bios will work on this mobo. I've search this whole thread but nothing I can found about that issues.

any help would be appreciated

You probably could, they share the same PCB and most of the same components. However, you are missing some components like the LED display in the back, and the second SATA controller, which will likely lead to problems.

And there probably isn't a real advantage to doing this, as the P5N32-E BIOS is more than likely almost identical to the Striker Extreme, but with the areas for the missing components disabled or removed.

If EZ Flash doesn't work, then you can try Award Flash. P5N32 was basicly a lower-end Striker. They share same PCBs but I dunno whether the flash will be possible or not.

I'm sure you can't have E5300 at 3.5 GHZ %100 stable on that mobo. You're prolly having wrong calculations once in a while. In Nvidia chipset boards, you have to find exact right volts to clock all stable. If you undervolt, it crashes after some time. Overvolting is even worse... system won't even boot up most of the time coz 680i chipset likes low volts only, it also has weak power circuitry. I'm not even mentioning temps with stock cooler... you should downclock that for folding, I'd also suggest a better heatsink.

I'm sure he can have an E5300@3.5GHz 100% stable on that board. The 680i boards were wonderful overclocks with dual-cores, especially ones that didn't need to go over 333FSB. In his cas, the FSB is only 270, assuming he has the stock multiplier, the board should do that with stock voltages without issue. That is just over the stock 266FSB for 1066 processors, and no where near the stock 333FSB the board is capable of without voltage increases.

 

[WSP]

I ran my E5300 @3500mhz stable enough to folding 1 cpu client (I don't run prime or orthos for that machine) considering if I use all of the cores, the folding on gpu would hurt, so I just run 1 cpu client (console mode). and it was stable.
I just bump the vcore to 1.35v and set everything else auto.

the FSB is 1080 (270mhz), and RAM goes unlinked @810mhz DDR2 CL5. 2x 160gb sata2 hdd (1 seagate, 1 wd) raid 0.no issues whatsoever atm.cpu temp according to core temp hovering around 43-48°c depending on the ambient. and I don't lock cpu affinity for that client, so core 0 and core 1 working together.

I'll post the screenshot tomorrow. I left that machine in my working kiosk.

 

[Helper]

I'm sure he can have an E5300@3.5GHz 100% stable on that board. The 680i boards were wonderful overclocks with dual-cores, especially ones that didn't need to go over 333FSB. In his cas, the FSB is only 270, assuming he has the stock multiplier, the board should do that with stock voltages without issue. That is just over the stock 266FSB for 1066 processors, and no where near the stock 333FSB the board is capable of without voltage increases.

No, it's not that. Believe me he can't, 680i boards sucked for fine-tuning even with dual cores. A wonderful OC would be on a good Intel chipset board, totally stable no matter what kind of settings you use. Those boards had lots of probs like voltage fluctuations, high chipset temps, booting issues... I used an IN9-32X Max and a Striker Formula. I couldn't even get pass 3.8 GHZ with my CPU on both boards. And I tried every combination of clocks&volts countless times it just didn't work and crashed in half an hour or an hour on full load.

Please don't tell me that it'll be stable because it's a low-FSB chip, and mine was higher also those boards weren't good OCers for E8000 CPUs. It doesn't change the fact that it'll still suck for clocking with an E5300, compared to an Intel board. WSP, just fire-up sth that puts full load on CPU like a Half-Life 2 mod. Then see how it'll crash in just a matter of time. I would say the max stable speed would be around 3 GHZ at most on that board, 3.2 if you're lucky.

 

[WSP]

I will do a prime95 or orthos tomorrow and post the results here

 

[newtekie1]

No, it's not that. Believe me he can't, 680i boards sucked for fine-tuning even with dual cores. A wonderful OC would be on a good Intel chipset board, totally stable no matter what kind of settings you use. Those boards had lots of probs like voltage fluctuations, high chipset temps, booting issues... I used an IN9-32X Max and a Striker Formula. I couldn't even get pass 3.8 GHZ with my CPU on both boards. And I tried every combination of clocks&volts countless times it just didn't work and crashed in half an hour or an hour on full load.

Please don't tell me that it'll be stable because it's a low-FSB chip, and mine was higher also those boards weren't good OCers for E8000 CPUs. It doesn't change the fact that it'll still suck for clocking with an E5300, compared to an Intel board. WSP, just fire-up sth that puts full load on CPU like a Half-Life 2 mod. Then see how it'll crash in just a matter of time. I would say the max stable speed would be around 3 GHZ at most on that board, 3.2 if you're lucky.

Believe me he can, they are not that hard to tweak and get stable, in fact of the 2 680i boards I owned, and the 650i board, all three were rather easy to get stable.

The 680i boards handles dual-cores just fine, not sure about the E8000 chips, since they started at 333FSB, and the 680i boards tended to max out at about 400FSB, but lower FSB chips were not a problem. They were great with 200 and 266FSB chips.

My eVGA 680i ran an E6600@3.6GHz(400FSB) all day long, 24 hour SP2004 stress tested stable. And my P5N32-E kept a Q6600@3.0GHz, SP2004 24 hour stable.

 

[WSP]

here's the screenshots:

prime95:



F@H cpu & gpu:

 

[JrRacinFan]

No, it's not that. Believe me he can't, 680i boards sucked for fine-tuning even with dual cores. A wonderful OC would be on a good Intel chipset board, totally stable no matter what kind of settings you use. Those boards had lots of probs like voltage fluctuations, high chipset temps, booting issues... I used an IN9-32X Max and a Striker Formula. I couldn't even get pass 3.8 GHZ with my CPU on both boards. And I tried every combination of clocks&volts countless times it just didn't work and crashed in half an hour or an hour on full load.

Please don't tell me that it'll be stable because it's a low-FSB chip, and mine was higher also those boards weren't good OCers for E8000 CPUs. It doesn't change the fact that it'll still suck for clocking with an E5300, compared to an Intel board. WSP, just fire-up sth that puts full load on CPU like a Half-Life 2 mod. Then see how it'll crash in just a matter of time. I would say the max stable speed would be around 3 GHZ at most on that board, 3.2 if you're lucky.

They key to his 3.5Ghz clock is the R0 stepping of the chip. The cpu itself requires less voltage to be stable.

 

[Helper]

Believe me he can, they are not that hard to tweak and get stable, in fact of the 2 680i boards I owned, and the 650i board, all three were rather easy to get stable.

The 680i boards handles dual-cores just fine, not sure about the E8000 chips, since they started at 333FSB, and the 680i boards tended to max out at about 400FSB, but lower FSB chips were not a problem. They were great with 200 and 266FSB chips.

My eVGA 680i ran an E6600@3.6GHz(400FSB) all day long, 24 hour SP2004 stress tested stable. And my P5N32-E kept a Q6600@3.0GHz, SP2004 24 hour stable.

TBH outta every system I OCed (SIS chipset Socket 478s, Mobile Durons...), 680i was the hardest to get stable and the one that gave me most frustration.

It's not just the FSB of chip while you're overclocking you know. There's more then that to mobo. In fact, he has a Wolfdale chip that makes things even worse coz those mobos were designed to work w/ Conroe chips at their GTL volts and settings.

Was your mobo second ver. 680i (A2)? Also it was an E6600, not a E5300. Then again I don't think you can have that CPU completely stable at that speed, knowing from my exp with 680i mobos. Also, passing 24HR of mersenne test doesn't make it instantly all stable. There isn't only 1 way to know about system stability. As we both know there're math tests, Windows instruction loads... Q6600 at 1333 FSB is very easy. That's sth most of the C2D mobos out there could do.

here's the screenshots:

prime95:

[url]http://i45.tinypic.com/2hd1u9h_th.jpg[/URL]

F@H cpu & gpu:

[url]http://i49.tinypic.com/14t24ol_th.jpg[/URL]

Both F@H&Prime stress pretty much the same way. I don't prefer Prime to see instability but it's still an OK way to know it for distributed computing calcutations. Only a few mins of test is NOT enough dude. I'd say stress on Prime w/ big FFTs for at least 2 hours. After that, try WPrime 1024 twice in a row. This way you'll be sure it won't screw up on those things.

There's one more thing. One time I passed 2.5 hours of Everest stress, an hour of Prime 55 and OCCT at 3.88 on IN9 32X-Max. Then I loaded up HL2: DM... my PC got stuck at 15th min of the game and I had to reset my system. It happened again in half an hour of HL2. While doing some research on the net, I found a few threads on this

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1042442

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366322

Those guys are right, I've seen the same thing. My PC was stable at Prime but it crashed in a Source Engine game. I think it's due to the way Havok and HL2 processes work on background. Like ragdolls` movements&triggers. So if you have a Steam account with HL2 in it, DL it to your folding system then try to play it for an hour or two. If you don't, you can still get the demo from Steam or I'm sure you have another Source Mod like CS:S to try and see it for yourself. IMHO this one is the most important and you need to play a HL2 mod to be sure about your system's stability, no BS.

They key to his 3.5Ghz clock is the R0 stepping of the chip. The cpu itself requires less voltage to be stable.

It has NOTTING to do w/ his CPU's stepping man, I wrote all these coz it's an Nvidia chipset board. It can't OC properly if he had an X38/X48 I wouldn't have written any of these.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Ok then explain to me how I myself was able to get 4Ghz@ 1.33v & 3.7Ghz @ 1.28v 24.7 with an e5200 R0 on an MSI P7N Platinum(750i chipset) ?

 

[Helper]

Ok then explain to me how I myself was able to get 4Ghz@ 1.33v & 3.7Ghz @ 1.28v 24.7 with an e5200 R0 on an MSI P7N Platinum(750i chipset) ?

It wasn't totally stable, go try if you can play CS:S for an hour at those settings. Read what I wrote above please, thanks.

 

[JrRacinFan]

It wasn't totally stable, go try if you can play CS:S for an hour at those settings. Read what I wrote above please, thanks.

Ran it on LinX for 8hrs both settings. Cant debunk you currently as I no longer have that setup.

 

[WSP]

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Both F@H&Prime stress pretty much the same way. I don't prefer Prime to see instability but it's still an OK way to know it for distributed computing calcutations. Only a few mins of test is NOT enough dude. I'd say stress on Prime w/ big FFTs for at least 2 hours. After that, try WPrime 1024 twice in a row. This way you'll be sure it won't screw up on those things.

There's one more thing. One time I passed 2.5 hours of Everest stress, an hour of Prime 55 and OCCT at 3.88 on IN9 32X-Max. Then I loaded up HL2: DM... my PC got stuck at 15th min of the game and I had to reset my system. It happened again in half an hour of HL2. While doing some research on the net, I found a few threads on this

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1042442

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366322

Those guys are right, I've seen the same thing. My PC was stable at Prime but it crashed in a Source Engine game. I think it's due to the way Havok and HL2 processes work on background. Like ragdolls` movements&triggers. So if you have a Steam account with HL2 in it, DL it to your folding system then try to play it for an hour or two. If you don't, you can still get the demo from Steam or I'm sure you have another Source Mod like CS:S to try and see it for yourself. IMHO this one is the most important and you need to play a HL2 mod to be sure about your system's stability, no BS.



It has NOTTING to do w/ his CPU's stepping man, I wrote all these coz it's an Nvidia chipset board. It can't OC properly if he had an X38/X48 I wouldn't have written any of these.

I see your point with stability things, and I do respect your opinion.
But the truth is, I ONLY requires cpu stable enough to do F@H 1 console client, nothing more as I will leave that machine crunching all the day and never touch it while it fold.So, my idea of stability in this case is running F@H cpu console client and see if it stable. and it does

Mind you that I only run 1 console client, coz if I run 2 console client or smp client, the gpu fold will hurt (ppd drops).

The only unstable on the cpu I had so far is EUE (early unit end) and nothing else.which is the problems with the project, not the machine I use

cheers

 

[Helper]

Ran it on LinX for 8hrs both settings. Cant debunk you currently as I no longer have that setup.

Yeah but you'll never know... 2.5 Wolfdale at 4 GHZ on 750i doesn't sound good. Games freezing or crashing to desktop and Windows lock-ups that force you to reset your PC. Knowing that I've seen it all with a 3.33 CPU over 3.8 on 2 of the most expensive 680i mobos I gave up on Nvidia chipset S775 mainboards.

I see your point with stability things, and I do respect your opinion.
But the truth is, I ONLY requires cpu stable enough to do F@H 1 console client, nothing more as I will leave that machine crunching all the day and never touch it while it fold.So, my idea of stability in this case is running F@H cpu console client and see if it stable. and it does

Mind you that I only run 1 console client, coz if I run 2 console client or smp client, the gpu fold will hurt (ppd drops).

The only unstable on the cpu I had so far is EUE (early unit end) and nothing else.which is the problems with the project, not the machine I use

cheers

Since this's a folding PC, I'd personally want it to be %100 stable no matter what. For what it does, system instability is unacceptable IMO. It has to get all of the calculations right, even if you only run a single client on it. But you're the one who's gonna decide on your comp's speeds... so if you feel that's stable enough, then I can't say anything else.

As a side note, sorry if I sounded harsh. Just trying to help eh no problem...

 

[JrRacinFan]

Yeah but you'll never know... 2.5 Wolfdale at 4 GHZ on 750i doesn't sound good. Games freezing or crashing to desktop and Windows lock-ups that force you to reset your PC. Knowing that I've seen it all with a 3.33 CPU over 3.8 on 2 of the most expensive 680i mobos I gave up on Nvidia chipset S775 mainboards.

Never had a problem with it crashing or being flakey. Sorry never really experienced what your describing. Even had an older Celeron D 347 on that board @ 5Ghz just to play around with it, that never crashed or gave random restarts either. Still will be truthful, can't give you present day benchmarks and screenshots as that rig has been parted out about 9 months ago. Guess I just had a good board, i dunno ...

 

[Helper]

Never had a problem with it crashing or being flakey. Sorry never really experienced what your describing. Even had an older Celeron D 347 on that board @ 5Ghz just to play around with it, that never crashed or gave random restarts either. Still will be truthful, can't give you present day benchmarks and screenshots as that rig has been parted out about 9 months ago. Guess I just had a good board, i dunno ...

Well, Cedar Mills were OCing beasts and those were easier to OC then C2Ds. Still, 3 to 5 GHZ all stable is too good to be true on that board AFAIK from 680i's. Getting D347 to that speed stable may be possible on a... 790i Ultra FTW? ROFL even with all those gimmicks it's a 680i in it's origins and I don't think it can ever have an OC as stable as a good P45.

Your board wasn't half-bad thou, it was a lil bit defective custom PCB 780i. It's actually a very good one compared to referance 750i boards. I still remember how my board passed all those stress tests but locked up on HL2. I wonder if you were able to play TF2, L4D etc. At 4 or 5 GHZ? IDK either it's a very low possibility to have it fully stable at those speeds on that mobo...

 

[JrRacinFan]

I do remember playing L4D2, paired the e5200 with a single 8800GTS 512MB. No problems. Ran a few 3dmark06 benches with the CelD but that's about all.