P6X58D Premium or ASUS Rampage III Formula

[Urlyin]

Looking to upgrade my system from a DFI X48 and go I7 but thought I'd ask for some thoughts on these two mobo's. They're pretty close in price and it seems the Rampage has a few more options. Haven't had time to read up on either but my Santa Claus(Mrs. Urlyin) list is due... Any known issues with either mobo? Preference? Thanks in advance

 

[newtekie1]

They are both solid motherboard, I think I'd go with the Rampage just for the bad ass black and read color scheme.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

I'd of said the P6X58D but lately I've been annoyed by the weird ram stepping on it. I can do 1200/1600/2000, not the crap in between like 1400/1800.

 

[mlee49]

Just by looking at the two boards the P6X58D has a much higher power phase system count the caps/fets around the cpu socket:

Color scheme: Rampage
PCIE slots spacing: Rampage
Power Phase: P6X58D

It's a toss up to me

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Have you looked at the P6X58D-E? Newer version, has some stuff cut out like extra lan but has a newer sata 6 controller, supports sata 6 raid. It's on the right.

 

[entropy13]

I recommend my mobo.

 

[niko084]

The P6X58D-E is a POS....
The P6X58D Premium is elite!

The Rampage I dunno I think it costs more than it's worth.

 

[Urlyin]

Thanks for your thoughts guys... I do like the color scheme of the Rampage even though it is the formula not the extreme version and the Xtreme Phase of P6X58D is very tempting... Now I see the Asus Sabertooth and word is that it is the second generation X58 and fixes issues seen in the earlier X58 1366... what issues?

Compare all three boards

 

[cadaveca]

Hard to snub the 5-year warranty of the Sabertooth over the 3 years of the others, too. You'd think the sabertooth would be a bit longer-lasting with that in mind, and might be more ready to handle the abuse overclocking puts on a board...

 

[niko084]

I just actually got my first Sabertooth x58 in, I didn't use it too much but it took an i7 930 to 4ghz without a hiccup... Personally I am a little weary of it's ability to keep the components cool at high clock speeds and voltages... Lets be honest if the ceram!x was that good they would put it on all their high end boards as well and just do a Rev2 or something.

Even on the P6X58D Prem. I used some double sided tape to mount a 60mm fan to part of the heatsink to help keep it cold after installing a water block on the cpu (980x @ 4.6ghz 24/7). I have no reason to believe it was getting too hot but I like them being perfectly comfortable to hold your fingers on.

The money saved if you are not looking for an extreme clock, I think the Sabertooth would still be a solid option. Sata6 is a joke unless you are running SSD's, you will actually get lower performance numbers due to overhead.

 

[claylomax]

Have you looked at the P6X58D-E? Newer version, has some stuff cut out like extra lan but has a newer sata 6 controller, supports sata 6 raid. It's on the right.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7764/asusp6x58dpremium.jpg

But it's much smaller

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

The P6X58D-E is a POS....
The P6X58D Premium is elite!

The Rampage I dunno I think it costs more than it's worth.

How do you figure? E beats the UD7 in 2 out 3 http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/x58-usb-3.0-sata-6-gbps,review-31887-13.html

Here's the differences I've found

P6X58D-E has Marvell® 9128 While P6X58D Premium has Marvell® 9123 Controller. (It means the E version has a better controller and supports RAID better)

P6X58D-E also has better VIA® VT6308P controller while the P6X58D Premium has VIA® VT6308 (IEEE 1394)

P6X58D-E Only has 1 Gigabit LAN controller Marvell 88E8056® While P6X58D Premium has 2. --Who uses 2 anyway?

P6X58D-E doesnt have the RESET button on the motherboard while the P6X58D Premium has, but both have the POWER and MEMOK buttons.

P6X58D-E also doesnt come with 1 x Optional Fan for water-cooling or passive-cooling while P6X58D Premium does. -- kinda meh imo

P6X58D-E might be better at overclocking -- maybe due to a newer revision of the mobo?

and of course the E is notably cheaper.

 

[niko084]

How do you figure? E beats the UD7 in 2 out 3 http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/x58-usb-3.0-sata-6-gbps,review-31887-13.html

Here's the differences

I say someone doesn't know how to overclock... I wont deny the P6X58D Premium is a PITA to clock, but I have used about 20 of them an 4-5 of the E's.... They are not as good, they are not as stable, and I have burned up 2.

 

[Urlyin]

I'd say you're both making a good point and I appreciate the posts....

 

[niko084]

I'd say you're both making a good point and I appreciate the posts....

No problem, what kind clock speed are you looking for something to run near stock a decent mild 24/7 clock or are you looking to bench the beast and pickup some HWbot points?

 

[Urlyin]

No problem, what kind clock speed are you looking for something to run near stock a decent mild 24/7 clock or are you looking to bench the beast and pickup some HWbot points?

Not looking to get killer OC no time for that anymore... something above stock 24 /7... I already use water cooling and will use my 5970 and perhaps upgrade my CPU wb...

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

The Formula has the same chipset updates the E has, given how close the premium and formula are priced that'd be the tipping point for me.

 

[Urlyin]

ROG Connect Anyone use?

 

[cadaveca]

I have..works great on Maximus III Gene...what would you like to know?


Personally, only good for benching, or initial clocking. Offers voltage control and monitoring, access to power buttons, etc, POST reader.

 

[Urlyin]

I have..works great on Maximus III Gene...what would you like to know?


Personally, only good for benching, or initial clocking. Offers voltage control and monitoring, access to power buttons, etc, POST reader.

Just looking for goodies that would push me towards one..... SupremeFX X-Fi 2 also on the Rampage... though I'd be just as content with Realtek.. I 'm leaning towards the Sabertooth only because of the price ... mo monies for CPU and or memory

 

[niko084]

Can't say I have, nor would I personally I just dislike the idea of software controlled overclocking from the OS.

If you aren't looking for a lot I would grab a sabertooth and if you feel the need at any time you could fairly easily mount a fan to the heatsink, or if you don't mind taking a bit of time you could figure out a way to mount something.

The chipset didn't get close to it's thermal limit, I had mine up to around 50c in a 72F room with an i7 930 @ 4ghz after about 2 hours of OCCT with HT on. According to Intel the chipset is good to 100c, so it should realistically be alright.

I am waiting on a 980x to arrive, when it does if you have not gotten something by then I will clock her up in that board and post some my results if I remember, I have an IR stat so I'll post some numbers of the chipset as well.

 

[Urlyin]

Thanks again everyone ... I'm gonna roll on the Sabertooth

 

[niko084]

PS: If you want to sell that DFI x48 and possibly the cpu depending on what it is, maybe the ram shoot me a PM, I have a friend who maybe interested, he is still on a 650SLI and a Q6600 B3 and is passively looking for an upgrade.

 

[cadaveca]

Can't say I have, nor would I personally I just dislike the idea of software controlled overclocking from the OS.

ROG Connect is NOT just software overclocking from within the OS. It's a combination of a software interface running on a completely differnt machine, and on-board hardware, that allows real-time adjustments to clocks and voltages from that other PC, external to the board that has the ROG Connect hardware.

Because the ROG Connect software interfaces directly with the board's hardware, both monitoring and actual voltage changes are far more consistent, and as well, they can be done when the ROG Connect board itself is powered down.

Yes, you read that right, voltage adjustments and temperature monitor works even if the ROG Connect board is powered down...great for benching under extreme cooling, when you might need to be below a certain temperature before booting the ROG Connect board. Watch the temps drop, click the power button, and then you can watch the POST reader to see when and what causes a failed boot...


I must digress though, that it's usefulness is pretty much exclusively to benchers, and not for 24-7 users.

 

[newtekie1]

Thanks again everyone ... I'm gonna roll on the Sabertooth

I was goint to say: Once you throw the Sabertooth in the mix, it is hard to pick either of the other boards. The Sabertooth has the price advantage and will handle a reasonable 24/7 clock with ease and seems to have every feature that most people will ever need.

Have fun with the new board!