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yeah the case looks nice
 
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I just got my Dtek Fusion delivered this morning from Petra's. Damn they are fast. Not to mention they included a personal note stating they switched out the fittings to 3/8" free of charge since the Fusion only comes with 1/2". They also included a free Petra's pen. Nice little touch. I'll post pictures later. The rest of my stuff should be here by Tuesday from performance-pc.
 
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yeah got a pen and note from them

why didnt you get V2 cost ?
 
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When I mount the Rad at the top of the case, should the in/out nipples face toward the front or back of the case. As for the pump, is it ok to mount it to the bottom of the case with velcro, or does it have to be bolted in?
 
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yeah got a pen and note from them

why didnt you get V2 cost ?
I got the v1 with pro mount for $47. I couldn't justify the extra cost for the v2. I'm already over budget, and this was a good deal.
 
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When I mount the Rad at the top of the case, should the in/out nipples face toward the front or back of the case. As for the pump, is it ok to mount it to the bottom of the case with velcro, or does it have to be bolted in?
I use velcro and the back cuz where are going to put the res ?

I got the v1 with pro mount for $47. I couldn't justify the extra cost for the v2. I'm already over budget, and this was a good deal.
yeah i payed like 65 when i got mine with out the pro mount
 
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I got the v1 with pro mount for $47. I couldn't justify the extra cost for the v2. I'm already over budget, and this was a good deal.
Hey, yo! Paulie. Am I correct to assume that you have all your parts? I mean that they are all in. I wanna pics of the newborn. I bet it will have your nose... and erockers eyes :p
 
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Hey, yo! Paulie. Am I correct to assume that you have all your parts? I mean that they are all in. I wanna pics of the newborn. I bet it will have your nose... and erockers eyes :p
LOL. No. The rest of my order comes in on Tuesday. Right now I just have the Dtek block and tubing.
 

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I just got my Dtek Fusion delivered this morning from Petra's. Damn they are fast. Not to mention they included a personal note stating they switched out the fittings to 3/8" free of charge since the Fusion only comes with 1/2". They also included a free Petra's pen. Nice little touch. I'll post pictures later. The rest of my stuff should be here by Tuesday from performance-pc.
Yeah, Petra's is one of my favorite places to order. It's rare to find a place with the personal touch anymore. I have a bunch of those pens floating around. lol.

When I mount the Rad at the top of the case, should the in/out nipples face toward the front or back of the case. As for the pump, is it ok to mount it to the bottom of the case with velcro, or does it have to be bolted in?
It doesn't matter which way the fittings face on your rad. Just do a mock-up without tubing, and decide where you want your res and pump (which is fine to mount at the bottom with velcro), then decide which way to face the rad for both the easiest access and the shortest tubing runs.
 
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OK, I'm thinking of adding the NB to the loop too. It's already set up for WC. Suggestions on how to best intergrate the NB with this loop?
 

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OK, I'm thinking of adding the NB to the loop too. It's already set up for WC. Suggestions on how to best intergrate the NB with this loop?
Normally, people would make a new loop. You would have to include another rad to the mix.

Res > CPU > Rad > NB > Rad > Res

Hopefully, you have a nice pump. I've seen some pretty funky setups:

Res > CPU > Rad > little booster Pump > GPU > Rad > Mobo coverage(NB + Phase) > Rad > Res
 
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no need for the extra rad IMHO...wouldnt hurt, but not needed! Just add it in after the CPU and be happy!
 
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no need for the extra rad IMHO...wouldnt hurt, but not needed! Just add it in after the CPU and be happy!
One thing that make it complicated. How the hell do I test the loop for leaks outside of the case, with the NB block attached to the MB?:wtf:
 
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One thing that make it complicated. How the hell do I test the loop for leaks outside of the case, with the NB block attached to the MB?:wtf:
thats why you get some low dollar tube at the hardware store. Just cut some bits and run the lop outside. if its on the board already, just make it so the board is suspended upside down. that way no leaks hit the mobo. With Distilled water, you could just let it dry if it did drip and start when you are sure its dry, but I like the idea of not giving it that chance!
 
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Res > Rad > Pump > CPU > NB > Res

I would just make sure the block fittings and screws are tight and snudge and the res and rad also and hook it up like you want then just put some water in the loop untill the res almost full just jump start the psu and stop it fill again un till you loop has water

also take off the power to the mobo, gpu etc. just in case it leaks or just run the pump off another psu cuz does it come with a 3pin to 4 pin ?
 
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As for leaks, get a water level sensor with an alarm and have it trigger a relay to cut your power...

I have setup servers that are water cooled that same way, works wonders and its pretty safe.
 

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One thing that make it complicated. How the hell do I test the loop for leaks outside of the case, with the NB block attached to the MB?:wtf:
Just unplug all power from the mobo, and put paper towels around the NB and cpu blocks. You should leak test it in your case anyway. Testing it outside of the case, then putting it in the case afterwards can lead to leaks from moving the loop around. (Trust me, I saw it first hand). That method of leak testing never made any sense to me.

Once you get it up and going, you are going to smack yourself upside the head from worrying about it so much. lol. It is so much easier than you think it is.

My personal preference for loop order in this setup would be res>pump>cpu>NB>rad>res. When you set up your tubing, make sure you have all of your cards installed, so you know how to route everything the best. I learned that one the hard way too. lol.
 

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no need for the extra rad IMHO...wouldnt hurt, but not needed! Just add it in after the CPU and be happy!
The reason I added the extra rad is because you would be bringing the heated water from the CPU to the NB, so it wouldn't cool down properly. You are correct, though. You can just go straight through. ;)
 
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Res > Rad > Pump > CPU > NB > Res

I would just make sure the block fittings and screws are tight and snudge and the res and rad also and hook it up like you want then just put some water in the loop untill the res almost full just jump start the psu and stop it fill again un till you loop has water

also take off the power to the mobo, gpu etc. just in case it leaks or just run the pump off another psu cuz does it come with a 3pin to 4 pin ?
I'm not sure if it comes with a 3 to 4 pin. I'll know more tonight. :). Should the entire loop and res be completely full of water/coolant? By the way, I should have the rest of my parts tonight. I'll post some pics.
 
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On an MCRES it does not have to be completely full. It will run just fine as long as the water level does not drop below the angled piece of acrylic inside the reservoir. But filling it to the top can't hurt as it gives you a little more fluid which will slightly increase the heat capacity of the system.

I look forward to seeing some pics. The first loop is always exciting and takes a lot of time to get exactly how you want.
 
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On an MCRES it does not have to be completely full. It will run just fine as long as the water level does not drop below the angled piece of acrylic inside the reservoir. But filling it to the top can't hurt as it gives you a little more fluid which will slightly increase the heat capacity of the system.

I look forward to seeing some pics. The first loop is always exciting and takes a lot of time to get exactly how you want.
Man, I can't wait, but I may not be able to get it going until Saturday. I have a build to do for a customer, in addition to my day job.
 
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Just unplug all power from the mobo, and put paper towels around the NB and cpu blocks. You should leak test it in your case anyway. Testing it outside of the case, then putting it in the case afterwards can lead to leaks from moving the loop around. (Trust me, I saw it first hand). That method of leak testing never made any sense to me.

Once you get it up and going, you are going to smack yourself upside the head from worrying about it so much. lol. It is so much easier than you think it is.

My personal preference for loop order in this setup would be res>pump>cpu>NB>rad>res. When you set up your tubing, make sure you have all of your cards installed, so you know how to route everything the best. I learned that one the hard way too. lol.
Yeah, I think I prefer your method of testing. It seems like a real pain to leak test outside the case. I hope you are right about how easy it really is. :) I always worry too much about this stuff the first time around. LOL
 
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If you are worried about slow leaks mount your Mcres where it can be seen and when you fill it and bleed it mark the water level with a piece of tape or something and just keep an eye on it to see if it drops at all.

Have you ever taken the stock heatsinks off your Maximus. I did to change the thermal paste (before I ditched it all for 4 waterblocks) and it made a good difference in the temperatures on the NB and SB.

Oh and yeah I leak tested outside my case and when Installing it a barb came slightly unscrewed and it caused leaking, lucky I leak tested twice.
 
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If you are worried about slow leaks mount your Mcres where it can be seen and when you fill it and bleed it mark the water level with a piece of tape or something and just keep an eye on it to see if it drops at all.

Have you ever taken the stock heatsinks off your Maximus. I did to change the thermal paste (before I ditched it all for 4 waterblocks) and it made a good difference in the temperatures on the NB and SB.

Oh and yeah I leak tested outside my case and when Installing it a barb came slightly unscrewed and it caused leaking, lucky I leak tested twice.
Yeah, the guy I bought the Maximus from replaced the stock TIM with AS5 before he sold it to me.
 
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