PC starts but nothing works..

[andreasf96]

hey, bought a new CPU fan a week ago, when I was gonna replace the old one I accidently bent some pins on the CPU, so I bought a new CPU, when I had placed it into the mobo with the new fan, the PC startet and I heard a bip but the screen didnt react, and none of the usb did either. I dont know what the problem can be, I've already changed fans and checked if it worked, but it didnt... so I dont think thats the problem. It may be the Motherboard though, but how can I know if its defective? please help me... I dont think the mobo is gonna be defective just by swapping CPU and CPU fans

 

[TheMailMan78]

hey, bought a new CPU fan a week ago, when I was gonna replace the old one I accidently bent some pins on the CPU, so I bought a new CPU, when I had placed it into the mobo with the new fan, the PC startet and I heard a bip but the screen didnt react, and none of the usb did either. I dont know what the problem can be, I've already changed fans and checked if it worked, but it didnt... so I dont think thats the problem. It may be the Motherboard though, but how can I know if its defective? please help me... I dont think the mobo is gonna be defective just by swapping CPU and CPU fans

Need specs and how many beeps. Does it power on? MORE INFO.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Need specs and how many beeps. Does it power on? MORE INFO.

+1

Dependent on the situation it could be as simple as the board being aged and the bios that's flashed doesn't have support for the new cpu.

 

[andreasf96]

The computer bips like twice in less then a sec
And yes, the Comp powers on

Specs:
AMD FX-4100 4-Core Processor ( new one )
Cooler Master V8 CPU Fan ( new one too)
Chieftec Smart Series 550W PSU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition ( old one)
Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3, Socket-AM3 (moba)
Kingston ValueR. DDR3 1333MHz 4GB, CL9
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA2
Gainward GeForce GTX 460 1GB PhysX CUDA.

The computer is 14 months old

 

[catnipkiller]

The computer bips like twice in less then a sec
And yes, the Comp powers on

Specs:
AMD FX-4100 4-Core Processor ( new one )
Cooler Master V8 CPU Fan ( new one too)
Chieftec Smart Series 550W PSU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition ( old one)
Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3, Socket-AM3 (moba)
Kingston ValueR. DDR3 1333MHz 4GB, CL9
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA2
Gainward GeForce GTX 460 1GB PhysX CUDA.

The computer is 14 months old

you listed 2 different cpus? what one are you useing?

 

[JrRacinFan]

Exactly as I thought. What rev PCB? Black socket or white? Also, chiming in, the 965 Black is a better processor.

 

[andreasf96]

as I said... 965 is the OLD one that got the pins bend, I am using AMD FX-4100 4-Core Processor. What do you meen with Black or white socket?

 

[TheMailMan78]

as I said... 965 is the OLD one that got the pins bend, I am using AMD FX-4100 4-Core Processor. What do you meen with Black or white socket?

The CPU socket on the mobo. Is it black or white?

 

[andreasf96]

its white

 

[TheMailMan78]

its white

Chances are you need to update your bios or your mobo doesnt support that CPU.

 

[andreasf96]

ok, I got abit weird question how do I update my BIOS? :S, and Thank you very much, Themailman78, you really helped me out

 

[TheMailMan78]

ok, I got abit weird question how do I update my BIOS? :S, and Thank you very much, Themailman78, you really helped me out

I dont know your mobo so I suggest you open your manual and learn how. Its simple Im sure. However in the future you should always update your bios BEFORE you install a new CPU.

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-870a-ud3_e.pdf

 

[andreasf96]

I am not sure that this is the problem , why did the mobo suddenly stop working? and is the BIOS the reason for that NONE of my USB's work and neither does my screen :S

 

[Norton]

I checked the Gigabyte website- only rev 3.1 w/black socket supports FX series. All of the the white socket boards only support up the PII X6.

Double check what revision you have and check the BIOS updates, there may be a beta BIOS available???

Note- be very careful to make sure you use the proper BIOS for your revision or you may kill your board.

*Note- did you try to straighten out the pins on the 965? Easy to do most time with a mechanical pencil and a magnifying glass.

 

[TheMailMan78]

I am not sure that this is the problem , why did the mobo suddenly stop working? and is the BIOS the reason for that NONE of my USB's work and neither does my screen :S

Yes. Changing a CPU and not updating the bios will cause weird things to happen or nothing at all. Basically you added hardware to the mobo and the mobo doesn't have any idea what you did. A bios will tell it how to handle the new CPU. That's as easy an explanation as I can give you.

Not to be judgmental but you should read up on things BEFORE you do them. Preparation is 90% of building a PC.

 

[andreasf96]

I checked the Gigabyte website- only rev 3.1 w/black socket supports FX series. All of the the white socket boards only support up the PII X6.

yep, looked at it now.... as long as it was AM3+ I thought my mobo was supporing it.... my bad , Ill just send it back to the store I bought it from, since it is a 45 days long refund Thank you!

 

[Norton]

Exactly as I thought. What rev PCB? Black socket or white? Also, chiming in, the 965 Black is a better processor.

Try fixing your current processor... as Jr said most consider it to be better than the FX you bought. If it's not fixable, try a 960T if they are in stock

*note- current BIOS revision in the system would need to support it before you install... most of them do but you can't assume this, check first.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Your board doesn't support the new CPU. Try to fix it as Norton suggested.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Mechanical pencil and a bottle of wine for steady hands and you'll be good to go man.

Take the lead out and use the port of the pencil over the pin. Then SLOWLY tilt the pencil while the CPU lays FLAT on a table surface. Line it up with the other pins and plug it in. Should be ok. DO NOT FORCE.

 

[Norton]

Mechanical pencil and a bottle of wine for steady hands and you'll be good to go man.

Take the lead out and use the port of the pencil over the pin. Then SLOWLY tilt the pencil while the CPU lays FLAT on a table surface. Line it up with the other pins and plug it in. Should be ok. DO NOT FORCE.

Decaf coffee and calm/well lit environment.... you may forget about the PC and just finish off the wine

Save the wine for celebrating when your PC is back running again.

 

[brandonwh64]

If you end up breaking the pin, a staple will work to replace the pin. just cut it to the size you need and apply light solder

 

[TheMailMan78]

If you end up breaking the pin, a staple will work to replace the pin. just cut it to the size you need and apply light solder

Dude this guy didn't even update the bios before the new CPU. He didn't even check if the CPU would work in the mobo. Yet you ask him to solder a new pin on a CPU?? MY hands are not even that steady and I'm an artist.

I mean we all make noob mistakes. I've made a TON. But lets not get hasty here.

 

[JrRacinFan]

and apply light solder

For a newer PC enthusiast I suggest staying away from the solder. I spare pushpin and a pair of electrical snips would get it back to working again.

@Mailman

Little off topic but on at the same time; Do am3+/FX cpu's fit in am3 sockets and same pinout?

 

[TheMailMan78]

For a newer PC enthusiast I suggest staying away from the solder. I spare pushpin and a pair of electrical snips would get it back to working again.

@Mailman

Little off topic but on at the same time; Do am3+/FX cpu's fit in am3 sockets and same pinout?

Yes. But am3 cpus will not fit into am2 boards. Pins are two fat from what I remember. am2 CPUs WILL fit into am3 boards however.

 

[JrRacinFan]

AM3+ cpu's I know won't do am2 as they don't have a ddr2 controller. Same can be said vice versa for am2(+) cpu's as they won't work in am3(+) boards. Think a revision 3.1 bios on a lesser PCB version would work? Hmmmmm