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[PCGamer] Steam bans all games with NFTs or cryptocurrency

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Meanwhile Epic Games says, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, and your blockchain NFT's".
 
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meh. What game used NFTs anyways, short of crapware? I feel like this is like banning dog poop and about as signifigant... that's great gabe, you banned that crap sandwhich, but no one really was buying it on your market anyways...
 

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meh. What game used NFTs anyways, short of crapware? I feel like this is like banning dog poop and about as signifigant... that's great gabe, you banned that crap sandwhich, but no one really was buying it on your market anyways...

banning all crypto not just not NFT's is a loud and clear message, wouldn't be surprised if other companies follow suit, and not just in the game industry.
 
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banning all crypto not just not NFT's is a loud and clear message, wouldn't be surprised if other companies follow suit, and not just in the game industry.
They are banning it in internal game markets. I wouldn't be surprised if they frown on that in general, but microtransactions gotta go brrr.

There are actually ways to spend crypto on steam, but Gabe doesn't need to know. It's called a coinbase VISA. We've moved well beyond this kind of stuff mattering honestly.
 
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So Steam does something good for once. Well done, I say.

Meanwhile Epic Games says, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, and your blockchain NFT's".
You forgot GOG.

banning all crypto not just not NFT's is a loud and clear message, wouldn't be surprised if other companies follow suit, and not just in the game industry.
You might be right. This could have long reaching implications.
 
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Timmy 2 Weeks ago while steam hadn't banned NFTs:
We aren’t touching NFTs as the whole field is currently tangled up with an intractable mix of scams, interesting decentralized tech foundations, and scams.

After Valve banned all those games:

Epic tells The Verge that it’s “open to games that support cryptocurrency or blockchain-based assets” on its game store,

Its like they are making decisions based on the opposite of what Valve does.
I love the top reply in that post
 
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welp. Im UNINSTALLING EPIC... Epic games can F*****************K Off

and IM geting EVERY DIME I SPENt ON THEIR LAME AS F***** k PLATFORM aANd F*****K CRYPTO, TAKING ALL OUR Gaming GRAPHICS CARDS
 

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welp. Im UNINSTALLING EPIC... Epic games can F*****************K Off

and IM geting EVERY DIME I SPENt ON THEIR LAME AS F***** k PLATFORM aANd F*****K CRYPTO, TAKING ALL OUR Gaming GRAPHICS CARDS

calm down mate, ******* hell rofl

Epic Games is just trying to spur competition I think, but I think they lack the skill level necessary. I still find myself enjoy the Uplay launcher layout and features more than Steam or Epic. I still love how Uplay gives me in-game rewards for achievement unlocks that money can't buy. satisfying. :D
 

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Epic Games is just trying to spur competition I think, but I think they lack the skill level necessary.
They've tried "competition" already, and we know how this ended up.
This particular stunt is just keeping up a "rebellious" image - e.g. doing random shit that others think of as controversial.

meh. What game used NFTs anyways, short of crapware? I feel like this is like banning dog poop and about as signifigant... that's great gabe, you banned that crap sandwhich, but no one really was buying it on your market anyways...
I think "real money" argument still has a place to be. Valve still struggles with loot gambling for their own games, and NFTs on steam is another shitstorm waiting to happen.
If you think lootboxes and collectible items are bad, try to imagine what would happen if you add the ability to earn and sell loot/collectibles without barriers (khm-khm... Diablo 3 marketplace khm-khm...).
Right now it's mostly indie devs with garbageware and plagiarism-fueled creative diarrhea projects, but tomorrow it might as well be something big from Blizzard or Ubi or Crytek(who for some reason still keeps their crypto on life support).
 
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Luls at anyone who thinks Valve did this because they care about gamers. They care about profits.
 
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The news is pretty clear, Fat Gabe was just worried there would be money on Steam that he couldn't tax, that's the only reason.

If he really cared to clean up all the garbage on Steam, like asset flip and random crapware. Not that i'm in favor of any bans, more like a cleanup of a cluttered store were to navegate it you have to go knee deep into all the crap out there. To be fair to Epic there standards are much higher, seems more like a propor video game store.
 
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The news is pretty clear, Fat Gabe was just worried there would be money on Steam that he couldn't tax, that's the only reason.

If he really cared to clean up all the garbage on Steam, like asset flip and random crapware. Not that i'm in favor of any bans, more like a cleanup of a cluttered store were to navegate it you have to go knee deep into all the crap out there. To be fair to Epic there standards are much higher, seems more like a propor video game store.
Oh please, you have no clue what Gabe is thinking or what his ultimate intentions are. Quit crap-posting.
 
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SpacePirate says that Steam's ban on NFTs and cryptocurrency is an extension of a general ban on items that have a real-world monetary value.
RMT (Real Money Transactions ) has been around since before I sold my first ( 3rd actually ) character for $1500 in Everquest 1, and wasnt even max level back when.. Sony (SOE/Verant/989) tried to stop them and eventually did years later. There were too many ripoffs by claiming your account was hacked and stolen. This is what Steam may be trying to put a stop to it before it gets out of hand for them. I wouldnt be surprised if there were complaints and attempts to get back loses that have been scammed already. Epic is like not aware of these types of things or are choosing to ignore it, not a big deal until you get scammed.

Games based on blockchains are essentially mining, or close enough, and an unaware player will remain clueless. I never liked lootboxes, but odds are always in favor of the game, blockchains can make certain it does.
 
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Oh please, you have no clue what Gabe is thinking or what his ultimate intentions are. Quit crap-posting.

good point, because he can only comment on the news when we have a direct link to the subjects brain to download his intentions
 
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Oh please, you have no clue what Gabe is thinking or what his ultimate intentions are. Quit crap-posting.
Not a valid argument since you praised him on previous post as though YOU know why he hid that.
 
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good point, because he can only comment on the news when we have a direct link to the subjects brain to download his intentions
Ah, so you're not done crap-posting? Ok then..

Not a valid argument since you praised him on previous post as though YOU know why he hid that.
Context is important. I praised the decision, not the motivations behind it. Argument valid.

This is what Steam may be trying to put a stop to it before it gets out of hand for them.
That's possible. Perhaps even likely.
 
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They lost that capacity after UT2004

yep those were the good days. I still replay the original UT sometimes, amazing how long ago it came out and it still holds up really well for fun factor.
 
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Meanwhile Epic Games says, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, and your blockchain NFT's".

Nope. Sweeney also released a statement of similar nature.

Nice FUD attempt with no basis though. Its a blind copy of the article but he said something else entirely. But ofcourse that doesn't generate clicks or comments for the site. Just look at it again, read it carefully.

What Sweeney said about it:

"Epic Games Store will welcome games that make use of blockchain tech provided they follow the relevant laws, disclose their terms, and are age-rated by an appropriate group. Though Epic's not using crypto in our games, we welcome innovation in the areas of technology and finance."

Name one NFT that ticks these boxes. Just one ;) Also, note Epic's saying 'we're not using crypto in our games'. Put differently, Sweeney/EGS is in wait and see mode. Is that very different than what Valve is doing now? The fact really is that Valve let it happen and THEN takes action. It shines light on how both companies curate their content. EGS has a different policy there, as you can see.
 
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Games based on blockchains are essentially mining
No. Mining is an entirely different animal than NFT blockchain based games.

Both are crap, but for different reasons.
 

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Not a valid argument since you praised him on previous post as though YOU know why he hid that.
Dude, in approximately 99% of situations I tend to disagree with lex, but this is definitely NOT one of these cases.
Valve is a private company that has a benefit of doing whatever they want (including weird and good).
You can't just claim that Gabe did it out of greed without at least proving your point. I can just as easily claim that he did it 'cause aliens told him to, and I'll be just as right if neither of us proves the point.

Also, don't forget that they have to maintain at least some community-friendly public image, which means doing things like cleaning up "Greenlight" program and indie catalog, banning scammers and cheaters, making sure that people won't gamble on loot etc. After all ,there's like what, half-a-dozen games with NFTs in existence? Definitely not a financial threat or anything to fuel someone's greed, but has a potential of becoming a glaring brown spot on company's mighty pants of reputation (just like CSGO loot casinos or trading card scams).
 
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