PCIe M.2 SSD's heatsinks

[freeagent]

Is it in a case at all? What is your ambient temp?

Yessir, in my main rig. Ambient is 18-19c

 

[Wooden Law - Black]

Oh FFS.

M.2 SSDs DO NOT NEED HEATSINKS. I repeat, M.2 SSDs DO NOT NEED HEATSINKS.

Let's look at actual thermal data from W1zzard's review of the P41: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-2-tb/7.html

He stresses the drive by constantly reading from/writing to it for 10 minutes straight. That is a completely unrealistic scenario and yet the drive NEVER DROPS PERFORMANCE because it NEVER THROTTLES. The same is true of pretty much every SSD he's ever reviewed, including the highest-end ones like the SN850 and Samsung 980 Pro.

If a professional hardware tester is unable to deliberately make an SSD throttle under completely nonsensical loads, what's the chance you, an ordinary user will? The answer is none. Zero. Zilch. Nil. Nada.

So educate yourselves and stop wasting money on pieces of metal that are nothing more than snake oil. The manufacturers know their drives better than you think you do.

I don't get the fact to don't use a heatsink if the SSD's controller reaches high temperature (like 110C for the 970 EVO) although it doesn't go into thermal throttling. Let's imagine that the user who is interested in that SSD do often heavy workloads and the controller achieves more than 75-80C; why shouldn't he buy a heatsink?

 

[80251]

@Assimiliator
If you look at pictures of the test rig in W1zzard's review, he's using a heatsink on the Hynix P41 Platinum.

Install it on a PCIE addon card and it will be much cooler, especially one that comes with a heatsink.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B084GDY2PW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have no room for PCIe addon cards except in one of the single lane PCIe slots.

While gaming I turn on the sidecover fan, this dropped temps on my Hynix P31 Gold 1 TB by 7°C. I only wish it would do the same for my 1080Ti.

 

[chrcoluk]

I don't get the fact to don't use a heatsink if the SSD's controller reaches high temperature (like 110C for the 970 EVO) although it doesn't go into thermal throttling. Let's imagine that the user who is interested in that SSD do often heavy workloads and the controller achieves more than 75-80C; why shouldn't he buy a heatsink?

The above post I made ironically is on my 970 EVO, that drive is hot lol, before I put a fan blowing on the m.2 slot it idled in the high 60s to low 70s depending on time of year and that was idle lol. Light load it hit high 70s, never tried a heavy load test on it.

 

[freeagent]

The drive I have the heatsink on used to sit at around 30-32c using the bottom slot on my mobo and the mobo heatsink. With the TR sink it sits at 22-23.

 

[ThrashZone]

My Samsung 970 EVO Plus idles 50c that's a heatsink and a small active cooler it could be higher passive like my faster Sabrent Rocket 4.0 is idling at 41c.

Samsung is running really got even over 65c sometimes and it's annoying to try to cool this is why I am in the future thinking of trying out another NVME when it needs a replacement.

Hi,
Yep 970 evo and evo plus both get stupid hot
I use this type of cooler when I used them worked pretty well but I don't anymore
I went back to sata m.2 for os, really I saw no real advantage to using m.2 majority of benchmarks showed no difference at all from sata ssd's so I switched back.
I may at some point get some larger 1-2tb for storage but no time soon.

Amazon.com: Advancing Gene M.2 NVMe Cooler Heatsink with 20mm PWM Fan (3rd Gen): Electronics

Yessir, in my main rig. Ambient is 18-19c

Hi,
Good reason your temps are low
Try 25c

 

[freeagent]

Hi,
Good reason your temps are low

Oh yeah.. summer is upon us! The furnace is off and the ambient of the house is increasing. It was a cold winter it will be nice to feel the heat

 

[ThrashZone]

Oh yeah.. summer is upon us! The furnace is off and the ambient of the house is increasing. It was a cold winter it will be nice to feel the heat

Hi,
Yep Texas is like Haiti 10 months out of the year

 

[Shou Miko]

Hi,
Yep 970 evo and evo plus both get stupid hot
I use this type of cooler when I used them worked pretty well but I don't anymore
I went back to sata m.2 for os, really I saw no real advantage to using m.2 majority of benchmarks showed no difference at all from sata ssd's so I switched back.
I may at some point get some larger 1-2tb for storage but no time soon.

Amazon.com: Advancing Gene M.2 NVMe Cooler Heatsink with 20mm PWM Fan (3rd Gen): Electronics


Hi,
Good reason your temps are low
Try 25c

I have the kinda same looker just another brand from icy box, and they display a 4-pin fan header and it's actually only a 3-pin so no control sadly.

Link: https://icybox.de/en/product.php?id=403

 

[ThrashZone]

I have the kinda same looker just another brand from icy box, and they display a 4-pin fan header and it's actually only a 3-pin so no control sadly.

Link: https://icybox.de/en/product.php?id=403

Hi,
Surprisingly very quiet even on full blast but pwm is nice to have.

 

[Shihab]

I always find it amusing when y'all Northerners/mountain folk complain about temperature.

I did a quick test with my Kingston NV1, sitting bellow my 1080T (blower style cooler. Doesn't exhaust at the drive, but severely restricts airflow behind it). Idle temperature sits at around 44c. Doing simultaneous, in-place copies of some 120GB data pumps it up to *checks logs* 69c! :|
Admittedly, that's at the very edge of the official operating temp specs (70c), but then again, my ambient is currently at a very cool 35c </s>.

Dunno if it matters, but according to TPU benches of the [maybe] same drive, also sinkless but with direct airflow at it, the peak stood at ~61c. Roughly 8c delta. But I suppose you can chalk most of it out to difference in ambient.

 

[A Computer Guy]

My Samsung 970 EVO Plus idles 50c that's a heatsink and a small active cooler it could be higher passive like my faster Sabrent Rocket 4.0 is idling at 41c.

Samsung is running really got even over 65c sometimes and it's annoying to try to cool this is why I am in the future thinking of trying out another NVME when it needs a replacement.

I have an older Samsung 970 EVO idles around 50c when under those "armor" heatsinks - I really dislike the armor trend that are just chunks of aluminum with no fins for real heat dissipation just increased surface area. Prior I had an EK heatsink (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-m-2-nvme-heatsink-nickel) on it with somewhat real fins before I switch motherboards but it actually didn't really do any good until I got some direct airflow onto it. With my CPU and GPU being liquid cooled my case didn't provide enough airflow with the spot right above the GPU being an air flow dead-zone. With some modest airflow from a 40mm fan it easily dropped the SSD controller temp from 50c to about 35c on idle on par with my 2.5in 860 QVO temps that are typically 33c.

Here is a photo of my old setup.

Per Samsung: 0 - 70 ℃ is Operating Temperature so I wouldn't worry too much about it as long as your in that range and if you're getting hotter stick a Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM 40mm near it and it should stay quiet and cool.

 

[erocker]

4 of my m.2 slots are taken up by 1 and 2 TB ssd's and I used the heatsinks that came with the motherboard that are similar to yours. My temps are all good in the mid-30's, nothing to worry about.

 

[Shou Miko]

I have an older Samsung 970 EVO idles around 50c when under those "armor" heatsinks - I really dislike the armor trend that are just chunks of aluminum with no fins for real heat dissipation just increased surface area. Prior I had an EK heatsink (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-m-2-nvme-heatsink-nickel) on it with somewhat real fins before I switch motherboards but it actually didn't really do any good until I got some direct airflow onto it. With my CPU and GPU being liquid cooled my case didn't provide enough airflow with the spot right above the GPU being an air flow dead-zone. With some modest airflow from a 40mm fan it easily dropped the SSD controller temp from 50c to about 35c on idle on par with my 2.5in 860 QVO temps that are typically 33c.

Here is a photo of my old setup.

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Per Samsung: 0 - 70 ℃ is Operating Temperature so I wouldn't worry too much about it as long as your in that range and if you're getting hotter stick a Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM 40mm near it and it should stay quiet and cool.

My 970 evo plus is like if the 120mm fan ain't almost touching it refuses to budge in tempreture this is why I am gonna replace it don't want to with the temps plus my Sabrent it's Gen4 but not that high temps.

I might just buy it with their DDR5 ram when I am going Zen4.

 

[A Computer Guy]

My 970 evo plus is like if the 120mm fan ain't almost touching it refuses to budge in tempreture this is why I am gonna replace it don't want to with the temps plus my Sabrent it's Gen4 but not that high temps.

I might just buy it with their DDR5 ram when I am going Zen4.

Did you try to get a more physical direct measurement of the temps? Perhaps the temp sensor on your 970 Evo is bad.

 

[Sithhy™]

You need one of these to keep that beast of yours cool