PES2009 demo Thread

[r9]

If you are a fan of this sport the demo is out and can be found here. So far many are posting that PES2009 is far better then FIFA09 for the PC. I am not sure about the console version of PES2009. But I will say that FIFA09 on the console is pretty good.

Post your impressions as I am sure many will want to know how the game fairs.

The little progress they made is thanks to PES all the ideas are from PES.
We will have to wait till 2050 till for fifa programers to make thru pass work. Even the controls are copyed from PES. Holding RUN+X in FIFA RUN+O for automaticly chasing player it was in pes 2003, fifa need it 5 years to implement lol. And bilion other things. For the FIFA fans all that are you liking in FIFA 2009 it was seen many many years before on PES. And we are sorry if the PES is to complicated for you .

 

[EastCoasthandle]

watch this video
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[MatTheCat]

EA should give up on the PC series because it just gets worse and worse and PES will always win on the PC.

They seemed to have done a lot of work on the gameplay for the PS3/XBOX version of FIFA09. The whole gameplay is very different compared to the PC counterpart.

From what I have played and noticed, The PC version of PES beats FIFA09 with no competition. But on PS3/XBOX I have to say that FIFA beats PES hands down for great gameplay.

If you own a console you should consider trying FIFA09 as its far different than the PC version.
If your left with a PC only then don't even bother with FIFA! just wait for PES to come out.

Agree totally.

But it seems you are screaming out the truth in vain and nobody here (essentially PC gamers) seems capable of recognising that FIFA (PS3,360) and FIFA PC are two entirely different things. One is quite simply the best video soccer experience to be had, the other is a pile of third rate shite that dont even deserved to be bootlegged.

PES2009 is good.

But all they have done is fixed PES2008 and put a fresh coat of paint on it. Essentially it is still the same game engine that the series has been using for the past 10 years with the same old agonising flaws and gameplay limitations.

If I was relatively new to ProEv, then I would no doubt be blown away by this offering.....but having played each title (except 2008) for hundreds of hours, I am a little weary of the outdated and tired formulae.

For me FIFA09 (360,PS3) offers hugely varied, realistic, immersive and fully responsive outfield play (unlike the sluggish ugly FIFA08) which more than carries the slightly watered down (when compared to PES2009) finishing/attacking aspect to the game.

Like u said...if u game only on PC, then PES2009 is only choice. Overall though, FIFA09 on consoles wins the contest by a country mile!

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Having tried both FIFA09 on the PC and console, the console is better then the PC version. However, after trying PES2009 on the PC and console they are nearly identical.


The difference between FIFA09 and PES2009 is mostly do to game play mechanics. PES2009 is far more robust and offer smoother more fluid game play. What PES2009 shines in is:
-Ball handling and some of the control aspects are better
-Better ball physics. The ball doesn't give the impression of floating while in flight (at times during hard kicks).
-Left thumb stick offers more intuitive tricks that are tangible in game (only a few, the others are just as involved as FIFA09)
-IQ is better
-Nice player animation when ref makes calls
-Clothing on players looks more fitting
-Nets (PC version) are far better looking
-AI opponent are not scripted to take the ball when approached. They use other tactics
-AI opponent with the ball will use fancy footwork
-The turf looks more realistic. No high grass carpet look when kicking from the corners.
-The movement of the players in PES2009 is more fluid and smoother
-AI in PES2009 uses more arsenal of tricks and fancy moves.
-AI players are more life like. Taller, etc.

With these notable traits I call PES2009 a winner in my book. As for telling folk to get FIFA09 on the console and ignore the PC version of FIFA09 is a injustice to all those who were expecting to use AA/AF and all the mods one can think of for the PC. The whole point in why someone would pick PC over console is to enhance the IQ with AA/AF and tweak the game. Lets face it, there a pretty big modding community for FIFA09 and PES2009. But since we know that FIFA09 on the PC is nothing like it's console counterpart any additional effort in the PC version is null and void.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Other Iissues with FIFA09

Collision system: A player will be completely halted by a stronger player clips you slightly from behind (no part of their bodies even touch, which makes it weirder still)

Buggy net

Weird, unpredictable stamina: sometimes players on full green are completely drained at the start of the game.

Watermarks plastered over saved replays.

AA doesn't work

Touch Passing (enough said)

Crossbar glitch...GOOOAALLLLLL
Side of net glitch

 

[wolf2009]

Essentially it is still the same game engine that the series has been using for the past 10 years with the same old agonising flaws and gameplay limitations.

PES 2008 had a new game engine and it is being used in 2009 too .PES 6 had a different engine than the current games

 

[spectre440]

hell yeah! pro evo for the win!

awesome demo, but too bad they won't allow you to play longer than 5 minutes a match...

 

[MatTheCat]

PES 2008 had a new game engine and it is being used in 2009 too .PES 6 had a different engine than the current games

So the developers said......

.......but all the gamers thought very different....

They might have refurbished the game engine.....but as a ProEv gamer for around ten years.....I can assure u that they have done very little to the skeletal structure of the AI engine. If PES was perfect, then this might not necessarily be a bad thing..

Problem is, PES is not perfect and the same old flaws and gameplay limitations that have been bugging ProEvo gamers for years are all still very much part of the game.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

hell yeah! pro evo for the win!

awesome demo, but too bad they won't allow you to play longer than 5 minutes a match...

There is a modding community out there. Increase the time here

 

[EastCoasthandle]

So the developers said......

.......but all the gamers thought very different....

They might have refurbished the game engine.....but as a ProEv gamer for around ten years.....I can assure u that they have done very little to the skeletal structure of the AI engine. If PES was perfect, then this might not necessarily be a bad thing..

Problem is, PES is not perfect and the same old flaws and gameplay limitations that have been bugging ProEvo gamers for years are all still very much part of the game.

The responses I've read about Pes2009 have been positive for the most part.

 

[wolf2009]

So the developers said......

.......but all the gamers thought very different....

They might have refurbished the game engine.....but as a ProEv gamer for around ten years.....I can assure u that they have done very little to the skeletal structure of the AI engine. If PES was perfect, then this might not necessarily be a bad thing..

Problem is, PES is not perfect and the same old flaws and gameplay limitations that have been bugging ProEvo gamers for years are all still very much part of the game.

dude , you are not the only pes gamer for last 10 years .

PES 5 was a lot different from PES4 . The animations and AI interactions were completely changed. That game was a revelation and a change in PES series .

 

[MatTheCat]

The responses I've read about Pes2009 have been positive for the most part.

I never said it wäsn't good....

Cos its really good.

dude , you are not the only pes gamer for last 10 years .

PES 5 was a lot different from PES4 . The animations and AI interactions were completely changed. That game was a revelation and a change in PES series .

Just because these two games played very differently dont mean the engine was changed.

i.e. U have played BF2 right? Maybe u have also played Project Reality which is a BF2 mod. Totally different experience to be had even although both games are based on the same engine. In PES's case though, the difference between titles isn't quite as pronounced.

PES2009 is a cracking fast paced arcade game it cannot be denied....but for those wanting something a little bit deeper then FIFA09 (consoles) is probably the footie game I would recommend.

(Having said that, PES wins hands down in the goal mouth action battle with FIFA09 attacking play feeling a bit watered down in comparison.....oh yes.....and those who are complaining that goals on FIFA09 tend to be very similar are not lying)

 

[xu^]

ive always been a Fifa fan on the PC ,don't ask me why ,i just have

But after playing Fifa 09 on the PC i was left feeling very disappointed,shoddy port even by EA's standards tbh ,i have fifa 2007 which isnt that good really but even that is better than Fifa 09 imho.

Looks like i will be buying PES 2009 this time,the only PES game ive tried before was 2008 and i didn't like at all.
Just hope 09 turns out ok as its my only option.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

I never said it wäsn't good....

Cos its really good.



Just because these two games played very differently dont mean the engine was changed.

i.e. U have played BF2 right? Maybe u have also played Project Reality which is a BF2 mod. Totally different experience to be had even although both games are based on the same engine. In PES's case though, the difference between titles isn't quite as pronounced.

PES2009 is a cracking fast paced arcade game it cannot be denied....but for those wanting something a little bit deeper then FIFA09 (consoles) is probably the footie game I would recommend.

(Having said that, PES wins hands down in the goal mouth action battle with FIFA09 attacking play feeling a bit watered down in comparison.....oh yes.....and those who are complaining that goals on FIFA09 tend to be very similar are not lying)

1. Do you have a valid, original source which proves that the engine is exactly the same?
2. What is your source which proves PES2009 is "all of a sudden" an arcade?

Can you provide a video doing this in FIFA09. It doesn't get any more "footie" then that.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Here's another video

 

[MilkyWay]

he said the 2009 engine was TOTALY redone and tweaked to bring the best performance yet

he said everything from shooting and passing to ball physics was re done

graphically its been built up from the 2008 version

he was proud to introduce champions league into the game for the first time NOTE this is separate from master league and konami cup modes
proud to say more teams have been licensed

cant wait to go internazionale milano to see if mario balotelli is in the game

one glaring flaw robinho is not in man city lol

 

[MilkyWay]

lol eastcoast is a hefty big red devils fan just for you "glory glory man united!" 54 seconds into the video lol

i like a bit of arsenal maself but i hate the red scouse

 

[MilkyWay]

im not sure if the game says glory glory or who the F***

 

[MatTheCat]

Here's another video

OK.....yer 2nd goal was pretty nice.

But all u have done is confirmed what I have been saying all along. PES2009 pwns FIFA09 in the final third. i.e. Attacking and Defending which is perhaps part of the reason why PES2009 is more exciting. But real footie it aint.

btw....where did u get ur crowd chants file from?

I am not enjoying the 50 Japanese Konami employee's in a shed murdering 'Liverpoooool, Liverpoooool' or 'UUUNITEDDDDD, UNNNIIITEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD' that comes with the original game.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

OK.....yer 2nd goal was pretty nice.

But all u have done is confirmed what I have been saying all along. PES2009 pwns FIFA09 in the final third. i.e. Attacking and Defending which is perhaps part of the reason why PES2009 is more exciting. But real footie it aint.

That's a contradiction though. Attacking and defending is still part of footie.

btw....where did u get ur crowd chants file from?

The modding community. That's why you cannot dismiss the PC version of these games.

I am not enjoying the 50 Japanese Konami employee's in a shed murdering 'Liverpoooool, Liverpoooool' or 'UUUNITEDDDDD, UNNNIIITEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD' that comes with the original game.

I am going to wait and see what the retail looks like. I honestly didn't enjoy playing FIFA09. In the end that is what matters most.

Side note: from what I read on their forums the PES2009 demo is only 85% of the retail game. If so, it will be very interesting to know what's added in the retail version.

 

[wolf2009]

Side note: from what I read on their forums the PES2009 demo is only 85% of the retail game. If so, it will be very interesting to know what's added in the retail version.

that's interesting, but i don't think they will change some of the gameplay elements.

I think they mean the menus and competitions and stuff .

I hate the AI sliding and taking the ball away everytime.

BTW how do you do tricks ? i cant to it with the stick on my controller

 

[EastCoasthandle]

that's interesting, but i don't think they will change some of the gameplay elements.

I think they mean the menus and competitions and stuff .

I hate the AI sliding and taking the ball away everytime.

BTW how do you do tricks ? i cant to it with the stick on my controller

The "sliding" is more of a redundant, scripted problem in FIFA09 then in PES2009 when I play.

Pes2009 has a list of tricks in the sub menu. Made available while you are playing the game. It's called command list or something like that.

 

[MatTheCat]

The modding community. That's why you cannot dismiss the PC version of these games.

Gäaäaähhhhgghh.

Gigimarulla has been murdering pes chantpacks for years now

10 year olds voices squaking over the sound of crowd chants is bad mmmmmkay....

chants recorded on the back of a supporters bus are bad mmmmmmkay.....

I think I prefered the original Engrishhh chants of the demo.

The chant pack to look out for are tommsen's. He ensures all chants are of good uniform quality with no squaking adolescents to be heard!

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Gäaäaähhhhgghh.

Gigimarulla has been murdering pes chantpacks for years now

10 year olds voices squaking over the sound of crowd chants is bad mmmmmkay....

chants recorded on the back of a supporters bus are bad mmmmmmkay.....

I think I prefered the original Engrishhh chants of the demo.

The chant pack to look out for are tommsen's. He ensures all chants are of good uniform quality with no squaking adolescents to be heard!

LOL, you do realize this is for the demo?

Furthermore, the number of downloads suggest that people like chant pack . Since you are not the author of it, attempting to dictate what a person should and should not use is fool-hearty at best. Here's a little hint, it's called prerogative. IE (for example): It's my prerogative if I wish to use the chant pack or not.

Furthermore, it's been confirmed by an admin who has the retail copy of PES2009 that it plays better from the retail version.

 

[MatTheCat]

LOL, you do realize this is for the demo?

Furthermore, the number of downloads suggest that people like chant pack . Since you are not the author of it, attempting to dictate what a person should and should not use is fool-hearty at best. Here's a little hint, it's called prerogative. IE (for example): It's my prerogative if I wish to use the chant pack or not.

Furthermore, it's been confirmed by an admin who has the retail copy of PES2009 that it plays better from the retail version.

Ahem....

well...just incase u feel like sampling the quality chantpack...

HERES TOMMSEN....

http://rapidshare.com/files/150127718/PES2009_Demo_Chantpack.rar.html

enjoy.