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Phenom II - 965 @ 3.8Ghz - Worth an upgrade ?

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I see someone already did the math but yeah, it'll take years of 24/7 use at 100% load for that difference to make a dent on your power bill.
I have to agree.

My current build including monitor and everything eats an average of 50kWh /month, let's suppose an AMD build would eat about 80kWh /month at a realistic average of 16 hours per day.

The difference in my power bill would still be tolerable and payable: Just $7.80 USD difference at $0.26 /kWh That's the price I'm paying here... :shadedshu:

The difference for USA people and other countries would be even lower: Just $3.60 USD at $0.12. :rolleyes:

Considering the power consumption "intel vs amd" described above was a bit exaggerated I believe you would pay even less than that.

My conclusion:
Power consumption should not be an excuse for average users (i.e. no 24/7 @ 100%), especially when living in USA and other "cheap energy" countries unless you are a "green hardcore". :)

Just my opinion.
 
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Maybe what TRWOV said was cherry picked, who knows? But Guru 3D review isn't cherry picked. I find it funny that neither you or OneMoar would respond to the Guru 3D review. It seems like you two cherry pick your responses.


As per post #76

Then explain why a stock FX 8350 is beating out the i5 2500K consistently. Explain why a stock FX 8350 is outperforming the i7 2600k in many tasks. Explain why a stock FX 8350 is outperforming an i7 3770k in transcoding and encoding. Explain why a stock FX 8350 is whooping a i5 3570 and i7 2600k in FryBench and Cinebench.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8320e_processor_review,12.html - (feel free to navigate through every page.)
If youll notice I have not mentioned that I agree with anything OneMoar has said in the thread so don't include me in your replies towards him. Thanks.

I never said anything about 2500k, 2600k, 3770k. I never recommend people old parts. Also there isnt much whooping happening. There is not a huge jump in performance between all of the CPUs you have mentioned in that review, most if not all of the numbers could fall within margin of error.

I find it funny that any thread where someone says anything bad about AMD you instantly jump on their case, do you have any other means to contribute to these forums in other ways or is your defense of AMD the only one?
 
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I unsubbed from the thread as you people seem intent on defending your inferior cpus
 
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At this point the FX 83xx is so 2012. It was bad in 2012. Why would you buy it in 2014? Feel free to get offended at this comment. Kthx.
 
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Since I decided to upgrade... I started OCing my Phenom... I got a golden chip I think....
4.1Ghz at 1.48~ and 48C full load .... Woof ! Memory runs at 1333.
 
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Going from and OC'd phenom to an FX 8 core is a side grade and a waste of money.
If you want a noticeable improvement its time to make the switch to Intel.
 
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I think the cheapest way to go would be $200 1366 board + $70 Xeon...and those do outperform FX chips..
Intel chips really are better for Gaming...10-15 more fps in just about everything.
I like AMD for daily use, though.It seems to open browsers/pages faster.
well..not the FX series..k8/k10 chips.
965BE was released in 2009, no?
Le Sigh..I wish they would have improved on that architecture.
 
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I never said anything about 2500k, 2600k, 3770k. I never recommend people old parts. Also there isnt much whooping happening. There is not a huge jump in performance between all of the CPUs you have mentioned in that review, most if not all of the numbers could fall within margin of error

I find it funny that any thread where someone says anything bad about AMD you instantly jump on their case, do you have any other means to contribute to these forums in other ways or is your defense of AMD the only one?
You said TRWOV cherry picked his good handbrake and WGC performance. I was merely pointing out its consistency with Guru 3D general review.


OneMoar, when you're ready can we please get an explanation for your inaccurate comment below please:
and a core i5 will still walk all over a fx chip regardless of the workload ... yes even in 8 threaded tasks the lowly intel quad is still faster ...
 
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Since I decided to upgrade... I started OCing my Phenom... I got a golden chip I think....
4.1Ghz at 1.48~ and 48C full load .... Woof ! Memory runs at 1333.
Nice. Pretty similar to my old 965.
 

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You said TRWOV cherry picked his good handbrake and WGC performance. I was merely pointing out its consistency with Guru 3D general review.


OneMoar, when you're ready can we please get an explanation for your inaccurate comment below please:
Jesus dude, I replied to your comment! That you cherry picked the bold parts. He also said once two new technologies were introduced to WCG, it was the other way around, Intel performed better. Seriously dude, everyone I know from forums and in person have left AMD and gone to Intel with ZERO regrets regardless of what they use it for. I have also built plenty of systems for friends and for other families with AMD chips. I have experience with both sides, and AMD chips have left me unimpressed.
 
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I hate to walk in to a minefield here, but I just wanted to share my experiences.
I moved from an PII X6@3.8GHz to a FX 8350@4.8GHz and it felt like a sidegrade. The FX will outperform the X6 in certain scenarios, but not always, from what I recall.
I've played around with a Pentium G3258 and was decently impressed too, although overclocking it seems a bit more complicated.
Intel will give you better performance, but I don't think it's worth the buy-in for what you'd be using it for. I'm looking at a move to Intel now, but only with the understanding that it's not a financially sensible plan to ditch all my AMD gear for Intel gear.

Since I decided to upgrade... I started OCing my Phenom... I got a golden chip I think....
4.1Ghz at 1.48~ and 48C full load .... Woof ! Memory runs at 1333.
That's a pretty nice result. If you're happy with it, I'd say it's worth keeping as is. It's better performance than you started with and it costs zero dollars, which is the best amount of dollars for things to cost.
 
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I'm not going to crap on your choices like some people here. AMD is good and acceptable for your usage. It's also probably a cheaper upgrade(ish) thing to do in your situation. No, it's not a better chip than most modern intels. But people getting butthurt because their cpu is worse/better than the competition, and likewise people who think it was "worthless" to go the route you did in your situation, BOTH need to go and take a breath, maybe play some video games and just basically take a chill pill. There's more to life than getting mad at someone for choosing the other brand.
 

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I agree

I'm not going to crap on your choices like some people here. AMD is good and acceptable for your usage. It's also probably a cheaper upgrade(ish) thing to do in your situation. No, it's not a better chip than most modern intels. But people getting butthurt because their cpu is worse/better than the competition, and likewise people who think it was "worthless" to go the route you did in your situation, BOTH need to go and take a breath, maybe play some video games and just basically take a chill pill. There's more to life than getting mad at someone for choosing the other brand.
 
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I waited for a CPU upgrade until the IPC was about 50% greater. Now modern Haswell will do that for that aging Phenom, but if it's not within your budget then don't bother. Psu upgrades are usually suggested when you get a Psu related *sign*, sudden power failure, black screens, blue screens, etc. Dig some info up and use your common.
 
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you might not put all 8 threads to work with a 83xx but a fx cpu would be much more efficient at what you are doing.. I say go for a 6300 and overclock it
 
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I unsubbed from the thread as you people seem intent on defending your inferior cpus
So the only processor you recommend is the Intel Core i5 4670K because its not inferior?
 
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I never experienced any special lag, but I don't know... I'm not doing much in the way of heavy gaming, or any rendering of some sort. I also don't usually notice the CPU Load at 100% ...

Is there any reason at all to get one of those 8-core AMD FX ?
^I've quoted the important part.

The answer is no.
 
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