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Phenom II or Intel i7?

Discussion in 'Motherboards & Memory' started by bud951, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. bud951

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    The input here is awesome. Thanks guys! I am gonna build a nasty i7 or i9 X58/68 later this year for sure with EVGA or ASUS MB's. I think for right now I'm gonna build a 965BE with a GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 motherboard unless there is any other board that I should be looking at which has the newer features. Let's talk about RAM.. I think 4 gigs should do but I know some think the more RAM the better. What should I purchase for say.. $150-175? Speed or quantity? Thanks again for the input!
     
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    Nice choice on the board. However, the UD4 has most of the same features too. I only mention it because you are talking about i7 later, and buying the UD4 will save you a bit of cash.
     
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    Best mobo for now GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5

    IF your are building your rig now the best mobo is GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 it is the only mobo with USB3 and SATA 3, good overclocking capabilities and crossfire ready for AMD platform. ASUS, MSI and other mobo manufacturers didn't bother putting USB3 and SATA3 on a 7xx chipset cause the 8xx and SB850 are to be launched by 10th of April, very good choice ;)
     
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    PII or i7 how about i5 :D. Best balance price/performance.
     
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    +1 for i5
     
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    and here we go again! Another thread for Fanboy Wars!
     
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    Those i5's are pretty impressive if I must say so. You could hold over most of the components and have a respectable i7 860 system for minimal upgrage costs. If you're planning on going full blown i7 in the future anyway though, you could always get a cheaper x58 board and pick up an i7 920 for $200 at microcenter!
     
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    you never ever ever ever ever ever ever keep the i7s at stock for long. They OC far and easy, and even at stock the i7 feels faster.
     
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    Consumer choices longevity of fast fix

    True the i5 is best for oc, the AM3 is longevity forward compatibility platform, and 790FX top of the range mobo with quad crossfire cost as much as mid range i5 mobo 1/2 PCIx lanes, consumers understand choices. The revision of AM3 socket is the question, based on the previous AMD socket revision e.g AM2r2=AM2+ so AM3r2=AM3+ that is how it looks, as noted on slides AMD refers to AM3r2 - Q1 2011 Bulldozer and Bobcat. ;)
     
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    The i5 & the AM3 are both great CPU's but my problem is the expensive motherboards for the i5. The high end and mid range are expensive where as the AM3 they are priced quite well. It all depends on cost. For Price/Performance, I would go for the AM3. For raw performance, I would go for the i7;) Oh, look where did the little i5 go :D
     
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    no idea, you said something about price/perf and AM3... Though it's more like saying what you pay for is what you get, cheap stuff. Don't knock it until you've tried it.
     
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    High End Phenoms only preforms slightly worse (in gaming tests, not benchmarks) than the i7 series.

    If you plan to do alot of video encoding, etc. go with Intel.

    If you plan to game, and have a budget, go with AMD.
     
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    The i7 has much more power than the PII systems... right now it does very little difference since they both are overkill for most of today's applications, but later on, I think the i7 is worth it...

    Though the PII systems aren't bad, depending on the price, maybe an i5 750 would be better... If you are beside a Microcenter, IMO, there is no reason to go PII, else it would be a viable option

    EDIT: there are 2 in TX so IMO, i7 920 or i5 750 are your best options :D
     
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    After more than a dozen i7 chips, I decided to build an AMD rig for a daily driver and gamer, and leave the 2 i7's to do WCG crunching. So, two weeks ago I built the AMD 965BE C3/Giga UD4 rig, and overclocked it to 4.0. It was just fine. Just fine for everything. So, I've already sold it. Apparently, after spending so much time with i7, "just fine" was not acceptable anymore. So, I'm in process of building another i7.
     
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    That is what I mean. i7 is a super fast CPU but when it comes to gaming AM3 is just fine. It all depends on how these games are being designed for. It`s too bad gaming companies are not pumping out massive multi-core intensive games.
     
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    I think cost per-performance all comes down to if you can get an i7 920 from a microcenter. If you can, I'd get a i7 920. They over clock well into the 4ghz+ with ease. However that's not an option, I would go with the AMD solution. Now that I am back with ATI based GPUs, I am even considering swapping back to an AMD based rig.
     
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    I kinda said that :p but there are 2 Microcenters in TX so I'm guessing there is a good chance it will be available to him...
     
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    That and there's no shortage of helpful people on TPU.
     
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    i5 750.
     
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    People here seem to think p55 is not attainable on the cheap. :laugh:
     
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    For a good mobo, no they are not.
     
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    I always love watching these threads ...

    GO i7 its faster bla bla bla...

    How about if the OP has a budget we try to stick to it...

    Hey bud951 are you firm with under $400 or do you want to spend more?

    I did i7/X58 for around $400 (I cheated and picked up a w3503 Intel Dual for $100 off eBay) and 3 gigs of plain ol Corsair mem. That would leave you with the option of throwing in a 6 core when they show up..
    (however I sold it and went with AM3 and am perfectly happy)
     
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    I just went back to AMD after building several Gigabyte am2 rigs for friends. I have found a good dual core AMD with 4 gb of ram and a fast sata drive is more than enough for anything, from games to daily use. We will see how I feel in a few weeks but if you ask Paul why he changed I bet it was truly just to change not because of performance. Heck my father inlaws AM2 6400+ powered a 295 gtx and maxed just about any game I threw at it. It is just these chips are fast and overkill, from core 2 duo, AMD AM2+ up the line. The machines are driven more by GPU in most cases.
     
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    if he can get to a Microcenter, 200+ tax for CPU and 175-190$ for the mobo makes it damn close to 400$

    else an i5 750 is much cheaper
     
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