Phenom II (Vs. i7 and C2Q) gaming benchmarks

[platinumyahoo]

how much are 945 BEs gonna cost retail?

 

[ShadowFold]

how much are 945 BEs gonna cost retail?

250$-300$ no one knows yet.

 

[Steevo]

He's trying to fight the Bat! His relation to this thread is way off. I wanna know where did the i7's 920 come from..



DDR3 is going to go down coming the end of this month. Since DDR2 is becoming cheaper and cheaper, DDR3 has to compete by lowering it's prices as well. Not to mention that DDR3 is becoming mainstream.



Current games are barely doing multiprocessing; And the ones that do are only two threads. I doubt we will see that many games that utilize 4 threads, not to mention 8.



I see what you are trying to say, but that comment was totally unnecessary. It barely had any relation to what I posted.

Wrone, GTA 4 already uses more than two cores. Once you breach the multi core boundry, settign up a thread switching and handling precess for the game and its resoureces becomes easy.

 

[Sonido]

It's a known issues with Windows.

The Windows don't understand there are HT or Not, What it see are, 8 cores.
And that's mean if your game/application support 2 threads, it will run on 1 core only.

I'm getting tired with all these benchmark, and I already saw this days/weeks ago, someone else posted them here.

Soon, Phenom II will come out, we will know soon.

I know. That's what I said in my post

The thing is. I remember reading right before Oct., when i7's full spec sheet was out, Intel saying that they redesigned HT to fix that issue.

Sorry for the repost. I didn't see it.

Binge, forgive me I didn't see it. Friends forever? You must admit my little review has to be better than what was posted

Wrone, GTA 4 already uses more than two cores. Once you breach the multi core boundry, settign up a thread switching and handling precess for the game and its resoureces becomes easy.

I said barely. There are only two games (that I know of) that currently use more than 2 cores: Flight Sim and GTA 4. We won't see an 8 threaded game for some time. When it does, the mainstream CPU's might have 8 cores.

 

[PaulieG]

It's a known issues with Windows.

The Windows don't understand there are HT or Not, What it see are, 8 cores.
And that's mean if your game/application support 2 threads, it will run on 1 core only.

I'm getting tired with all these benchmark, and I already saw this days/weeks ago, someone else posted them here.

Soon, Phenom II will come out, we will know soon.

Exactly. i'm always amazed at these battles we go through, waving the flag of one company over another. C'mon guys, lets just enjoy the fact that there is some VERY good hardware available to us, at very fair prices. Kind of a "golden age" of hardware if you ask me.

 

[kid41212003]

I know. That's what I said in my post

The thing is. I remember reading right before Oct., when i7's full spec sheet was out, Intel saying that they redesigned HT to fix that issue.

Oh, really? My games appeared to perform better with HT disabled. And not by small margin.

Redesigned? The reports were made when the Core i7 is already out.

And what was the time that they did this benchmark?

 

[PaulieG]

how much are 945 BEs gonna cost retail?

From what I hear, they will be just under $300 when released in April. Just slightly more than the 940 BE, simply because it has the DDR3 controller, and can be used in both DDR2 and DDR3 boards.

 

[platinumyahoo]

so Paulieg, i dont mean to sound stupid, but is that cpu on [h]ardforum yours?

 

[Sonido]

Oh, really? My games appeared to perform better with HT disabled. And not by small margin.

Redesigned? The reports were made when the Core i7 is already out.

And what was the time that they did this benchmark?

I really don't see why you are trying to attack me but ok.

1) What you posted is what I said in my post. Where if there were 4 threads being processed, Windows, instead of using one from each core, would use both in two cores. I was agreeing with what you said.

2) The specs for i7 was out long before it's launch. There was a lot of speculation from certain hardware sites about the revival of Hyper threading. Intel, responding to these worries, stated that they were redesigning HT to alleviate congestion of the lines. Meaning, if both ALUs were activated on one core, it wouldn't cause too much of a lag (lag would still happen but it would be managed). This is actually something I read at a hardware enthusiasts site.

I don't understand why people are climbing on my back for.

 

[PaulieG]

so Paulieg, i dont mean to sound stupid, but is that cpu on [h]ardforum yours?

No, not mine.

 

[Homeless]

Assuming these benchmarks are accurate, I don't see the point in buying PII over C2Q. C2Q is cheaper and performs about the same. Although in time Tri channel DDR3 may make some difference, the price differential between the two doesn't seem worth it

 

[platinumyahoo]

i do have google quick search add-on on my firefox, but im too lazy, will phenom II be 65 or 45nm?

 

[johnnyfiive]

Sadly, I won't have a Phenom II for months. X-Mas gift's took all my funds! Family first.
(hopefully they read this and give me money so I can get a Phenom II.)

 

[Sonido]

i do have google quick search add-on on my firefox, but im too lazy, will phenom II be 65 or 45nm?

45 nm

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=78355

 

[kid41212003]

I did not saying anything about you, or your personal stuffs. You can't say that is an attack.

I disagreed that you said even with HT disable, the outcome would be the same. Because It's not in my case.

http://www.techradar.com/news/compu...s/how-windows-vista-drags-core-i7-down-480468

And, my cpu is not ES cpu, it's mean if there is bug it already fixed.

I expect the same things will all the games (because that what it did with my games, Company of Heroes, Crysis Warhead,...) that can not support at least 4 threads.

 

[PaulieG]

Assuming these benchmarks are accurate, I don't see the point in buying PII over C2Q. C2Q is cheaper and performs about the same. Although in time Tri channel DDR3 may make some difference, the price differential between the two doesn't seem worth it

This is not true. The 920 will be below Q9450 prices, and the 940 will be less than the Q9550.

 

[From_Nowhere]

Well, AMD seems to have finally made a fast Phenom.

 

[platinumyahoo]

This is not true. The 920 will be below Q9450 prices, and the 940 will be less than the Q9550.

Don't forget Black editions, that alone puts price/performance wayyy over...

 

[ShadowFold]

Don't forget Black editions, that alone puts price/performance wayyy over...

The 940 is the black edition.

 

[Sonido]

I did not saying anything about you, or your personal stuffs. You can't say that is an attack.

I disagreed that you said even with HT disable, the outcome would be the same. Because It's not in my case.

http://www.techradar.com/news/compu...s/how-windows-vista-drags-core-i7-down-480468

And, my cpu is not ES cpu, it's mean if there is bug it already fixed.

I expect the same things will all the games (because that what it did with my games, Company of Heroes, Crysis Warhead,...) that can not support at least 4 threads.

But I didn't say it would be the same. I said it might, which it could possibly be. It's all good. We just misunderstood each other. Reading that article, that's been a problem since the P4 days.

 

[ShadowFold]

Oh no wonder my P4 is sucking in Vista Anyway I turn off HT or w/e?

 

[kid41212003]

Oh no wonder my P4 is sucking in Vista Anyway I turn off HT or w/e?

Err no, in your case, it would improve your performance.

In Core i7 case, it just didn't use the full power of the cpu.

 

[hat]

It looks like AMD has an advantage here. I hope they smash Intel in thier nuts with a jackhammer. Intel can afford it as they have so much OEM market control, and AMD needs every drop they can get at the moment as it seems.

I like both Intel and AMD. I own two great machines (at least great in my mind anyway, or they will be after christmas), one's an Intel and one's an AMD.

 

[trt740]

The new line of AMD's still suck. Intel are just greatness.

no they don't suck considering you don't have to buy a new motherboard and ram and they yield similar performance to more expensive intel boards. Where the chips are 200.00 more than amds and motherboards need to be purchased at a premium.

 

[Hayder_Master]

we can depend on this , what about core i7 run with ddr3/2000 and phenom 2 run with ddr2/1066 , i think that's scores change when phenom 2 run on am3