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I guess.
I've been doing every 3 years....the features you get with $700 monitor will cost about less than half that in 3 years...or about the time I'll have a viable GFX to use it.
I see your point tho...

I'm not willing to compromise my gaming...LoL
But most people also have better uses for their PC than I do.
I had a Samung 2048x1152 screen that I use until the backlight started to die, but that's almost 10 years ago.
After that I had a screen I got from someone that was trying to build some custom hardware, but the power board in that one died.
Then I got an AOC 4k screen, but it was shite, so I got a refund for that one.
After that I bought a Dell 25" 1440p that my SO is using and that one is now at the five year mark.
I got my current display about 3 years ago, as someone I know was moving country and sold it to me for half the price. As I mentioned, it's not been stellar in terms of quality and now it's out of warranty, so fingers crossed it'll last another year or two as is.
 
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Specs are one thing, marketing BS is anutha....

You can narrow down your preferred specs/brands/budget etc, but there is absolutly ZERO substitute for seeing them in person, simply because everyone's eyes are different !

A monitor that looks great to one person may look like total crap to someone else, so make a list and go do some shoppin :D
 
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Aoc monitors, are pretty good.
 
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If you had no budget restrictions, which 27 inch gaming monitor would you choose for the mentioned specs (I9-9900K + RTX 2080 Super)?
 
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If you had no budget restrictions, which 27 inch gaming monitor would you choose for the mentioned specs (I9-9900K + RTX 2080 Super)?

Hi, I was doubting about exact the same monitors as in your original first post, but wanted to exclude FreeSync and G-Sync compatible, and bought myself in the end the Lenovo Y27gq-25 with G-Sync, which monitor is amazing.

It's actually all what you prefer, your taste and requirements: sync, brand, curved, ultrawide, TN/(led/nano)IPS/VA, refresh rate, et cetera (I came from Samsung 2493 HM monitor).

Good site to check latest in 2020 is here.
 
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If you had no budget restrictions, which 27 inch gaming monitor would you choose for the mentioned specs (I9-9900K + RTX 2080 Super)?
Decent 1440p IPS, gsync compatible. Doesn't cost a boatload so you can always upgrade to something better down the line.

Sure you could go nuts and buy an IPS with local dimming but even that might be PITA when local dimming isn't fast enough and produces visible lighting artifacts.
 
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Hi guys, I need help deciding which monitor to buy for gaming. I don't know much about monitors, but these monitors are recommended by most so I guess I can't go wrong?


If you have some other suggestion please let me know what to buy in similar price range.

Thank you in advance

P.S.

Computer specs are:
CPU: I9-9900K
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
Given the discussion that has taken place, I think the choice is between the first two you listed.
If 2160p and high quality color reproduction are your goal, the second choice is the best. However, running games in 2160p will limit frame-rates, dramatically in many cases. So if high frame-rates are more important, the first model is the best choice as it will give the best balance between color reproduction, high resolution and high pixel response times. What you need to settle on is what feature is most important to you(or your brother in your situation).
 
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Decent 1440p IPS, gsync compatible. Doesn't cost a boatload so you can always upgrade to something better down the line.

Sure you could go nuts and buy an IPS with local dimming but even that might be PITA when local dimming isn't fast enough and produces visible lighting artifacts.
how's the blb situation on aorus ?

see,this is what puts me off IPS's,every gradient of dark has a silver tint.Even TNs don't produce that.

 
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Given the discussion that has taken place, I think the choice is between the first two you listed.
If 2160p and high quality color reproduction are your goal, the second choice is the best. However, running games in 2160p will limit frame-rates, dramatically in many cases. So if high frame-rates are more important, the first model is the best choice as it will give the best balance between color reproduction, high resolution and high pixel response times. What you need to settle on is what feature is most important to you(or your brother in your situation).

Avoid the PG279Q it has 4ms response time.

Should we be concerned with 4ms response time on the second choice?

Lenovo Y27gq-25 with G-Sync,

I don't have this monitor in the store :(

Gigabyte Aorus FI27Q-P

I don't have this one either :(
 
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Sorry, I meant PG279Q. Framerates are important, and since he won't be playing in 4K due to frame limitations, maybe we should go with PG279Q?

And what is the difference between PG279Q and PG279QE?
 
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And what is the difference between PG279Q and PG279QE?


I believe they both still use the same 4+ year old panel but the QE has a slightly different stand.
 
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How about instead of "what would you get? " which most often was met with "I don't have this in the store" OP provides a link to the store that he'll be using for purchase? That way we can provide actual alternatives.
 
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How about instead of "what would you get? " which most often was met with "I don't have this in the store" OP provides a link to the store that he'll be using for purchase? That way we can provide actual alternatives.

He was browsing here: http://amazon.fr/
 
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He was browsing here: http://amazon.fr/

I still feel this is a better monitor





This seems like the Asus alternative but its not worth the price difference


 
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Maybe some of the cheaper ones have gotten better but the Dell and Acer variants that I looked at when purchasing the Asus model were quite a bit worse while still costing $4-500
of course they're worse,they're TNs,what did you expect in terms of viewing angles ?
no silvering tho.or glow.or blb.and super fast pixel response.

pick your poison.
 
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I don't have this UltraWide listed but I like this one:


Can anyone else relate to the opinion on this monitor, should we go with this one? I trust you guys know what you're saying just looking for more encouragement
 
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Can anyone else relate to the opinion on this monitor, should we go with this one? I trust you guys know what you're saying just looking for more encouragement

I mean shouldn't be too hard to come up with a consensus from all of these....




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it costs a lot for a TN.

don't get me wrong,a high refresh TN can still kick ass for gaming,but not for that price.

Never mind the shitty 1 year warranty.
 
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Of the three, the ROG SWIFT PG279Q / Asus ROG Strix XG27UQ outclasses most other IPS SCreens like Secretariat in the Belmont Stakes (32 lengths). 1st clue is the panel ... AU Optonics is the Gold Standard.

As far as response times go ... every spec sheet and advertisement you have ever read is BS. Asus advertises 4 ms for the PG279Q which is excellent. But it's not real. Here's the tested results:


Minimum Response Time: 4.10
Average Response Time: 5.0
Maximum Response Time: 6.5

Asus exaggerates just a bit using minimum response time instead of average and dropping the 0.1 ... Most manufacturers are worse. I have see advertised 1.0 test out worse hen the Asus "in real life'

Here's a comparison of response and lag times


Now lets look how bad it gets with some of the less reputable brands ...

AOC advertises the AGON AG352UCG at 4ms .... 4 ms my ass.

Minimum Response Time: 3.3
Average Response Time: 10.2
Maximum Response Time: 48.0

As good as the above Asus monitors are, I prefer the Acer XB271HU bmiprz for one big reason .... At release, both Asus and Acer used the same panel from AU Optonics ... about 18 months in, Asus switched to an 8-bit panel while Acer maintains the 10 bit panel.

If it can't do 120 Hz w/ G-Sync turned off / ULMB on, I don't consider it a gaming monitor. 4k, 60 Hz monitors don't make the cut and 144 hz don't have ULMB. I find most gamers prefer to turn G-Sync off and ULMB on when maintaining fps > 75 or so.


It should be noted that the real benefits of G-sync really come into play when viewing lower frame rate content, around 45 - 60fps typically delivers the best results compared with Vsync on/off. At consistently higher frame rates as you get nearer to 144 fps the benefits of G-sync are not as great, but still apparent. There will be a gradual transition period for each user where the benefits of using G-sync decrease, and it may instead be better to use the ULMB feature if it's been included, which is not available when using G-sync. Higher end gaming machines might be able to push out higher frame rates more consistently and so you might find less benefit in using G-sync. The ULMB could then help in another very important area, helping to reduce the perceived motion blur caused by LCD displays. It's nice to have both G-sync and ULMB available to choose from certainly on these G-sync enabled displays. Soon after launch NVIDIA added the option to choose how frequencies outside of the supported range are handled. Previously it would revert to Vsync on behaviour, but the user now has the choice for various settings including Fast Sync, V-sync, no synchronisation and allowing the application to decide.

If ya got the juice in ya GFX card and can maintain 80, 100, 120 fps ... you will at least want the option of having ULMB available. I been waiting for it to show up at 4k before i could justify walking away from the Acer. Frankly, the appearance on the Asus monitors w/ AU Optonics panels looks sturdier .... but I prefer the 10 bit image on the Acer ... not to mention, the 4100 price savings


so in answer to your question ...

"If you had no budget restrictions, which 27 inch gaming monitor would you choose for the mentioned specs (I9-9900K + RTX 2080 Super)? "

I'd buy the $595 Acer XB271HU bmiprz

To narrow ya search, I almost wanna say, if it ain't here, don't bother looking at it

But that would be unfair as when say they review the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q, they'll likely skip the Asus ROG Swift PG278QR ... and when they review the Acer Predator XB270HU (144 Hz), they skipped the Acer Predator XB271HU. But if it's not "just released" and they didn't bother to review it, minor upgrades aside, it's pretty good bet, it's not worth having.
 
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If you play MOBAs, top-down ARPGs, or strategy games where you're panning around in a top-down view, get one that has ULMB (strobing backlight). It's the only thing that matters in those situations.

TN is generally bad, and there's no reason to pick it unless you're trying to go for a 1ms 240Hz strobing display.
IPS is tyically the most balanced option and has no glaring downsides other than mediocre contrast. If you play in a well-lit room this won't even matter.
VA gives you much better contrast and black levels (3x better!) as well as meaningfully-curved options, but can leave dark smears behind black objects on dark backgrounds.

I've only seen a dozen or so gaming monitors in the last couple of years because they're not as common in stores as I'd like, and sometimes it's just a case of suggesting one for a build based on reviews and playing with it briefly before never seeing it again.

Of that dozen, these are the ones I would recommend (and the one I own at the moment is not on this list, I'm hanging onto it for now until something better makes it worth the hassle of selling and replacing)

ASUS TUF VG27AQ
IPS 1440p 144Hz with good ULMB strobing.

LG 32GK650F-B
VA 1440p 144Hz with good ULMB strobing

AOC AGON AG273QZ
TN 1440p 240Hz with the best ULMB strobing I've ever seen, but ugh - it's TN.

ViewSonic Elite XG270QG
IPS 1440p 165Hz very good pixel response and ok ULMB strobing. I've not seen this exact model, only the 1080p version but according to RTINGS and TFTCentral, this 1440p variant is as good or better when it comes to pixel response and ULMB.


...and John Naylor is right, manufacturer's specs are utterly useless. Find a review that tests gaming properties like RTINGS or TFTCentral. You need an average pixel response of less than 7ms and you want flicker-free ULMB. Freesync/G-Sync is nice to have, especially if your GPU isn't powerful enough but nothing is as important as a strobing backlight and 100HZ+ refresh rates.

My current panel is a curved 1440p VA with decent strobing but irritating firmware and barely acceptable backlight uniformity. AOC CQ32G1 and I'm honestly just waiting for AUO's next-gen VA panels to get through the systemic production delays of COVID-19.
 
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