[POLL] Will you be buying a Zen3/Ryzen 5000 CPU?

[delshay]

No. I only play Dungeon Crawler games & surf the web, so dual core is more than enough. I could probably get away with a single core. To tell you the truth, I'm in no hurry whatever I do with my computer.

 

[windwhirl]

No. I only play Dungeon Crawler games & surf the web, so dual core is more than enough. I could probably get away with a single core. To tell you the truth, I'm in no hurry whatever I do with my computer.

I wouldn't go so far as single core, but for your case as you state it, dual core does seem to be enough.

Maybe the price hikes have something to do with it. but tbh there is really no need to switch to every new gen when it comes out now.

Indeed. At this point, significant performance increases only come from either getting a higher core-count CPU or skipping one or two gens and then jumping to the newest one for a relatively impressive IPC boost and/or better thermals/energy/performance ratios. Exceptions apply, such as if you were interested in PCIe 4.0, for example, but those are rare cases.

 

[Zach_01]

Maybe the price hikes have something to do with it. but tbh there is really no need to switch to every new gen when it comes out now.

I would say its a mix. Prices, lack of lower end products at launch, not knowing the exact performance across all games and software... and so...
Other than users who have a life dependency on a PC and can make their work go faster even 20%, all other including me we are mostly amusing ourselves.

I came from an 7year old (FX3870, hey I'm a fanboy!) system to ZEN2 Aug2019. Of course I'm planning to go to 5000 as its the last AM4, but that wont happen until 2022. Add a few years more for next platform. The 3600 serves more than well.

 

[Valantar]

It's more like people are actually starting to pay a bit of attention. I still remember people back in the Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake days clamoring over the extra 10% or so of performance they could get each generation, arguing for it being worth the upgrade (usually including a new mothetboard) despite that being very demonstrably untrue. Guess it took about five years of fatigue for that truth to actually sink in with people. And ironically that seems to have happened right at the point when CPU performance actually becomes interesting again

 

[Zach_01]

New users or old system ones, are pi$$ing themselves these days...

 

[4kk]

Hey, got one question:
Should I buy a ryzen 9 3900X for 415€ or wait till 9 5900X is available and pay 550€?? (System will be mainly used for video editing purposes with Davinci resolve, premiere pro...)
Thanks.

 

[thesmokingman]

LMAO, AMD has made you guys spoiled. Yall be yawning in the face of a 19% IPC uplift. Have you all become so jaded after the BS 5% Intel uplifts already?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Hey, got one question:
Should I buy a ryzen 9 3900X for 415€ or wait till 9 5900X is available and pay 550€?? (System will be mainly used for video editing purposes with Davinci resolve, premiere pro...)
Thanks.

imo wait

 

[milewski1015]

Hey, got one question:
Should I buy a ryzen 9 3900X for 415€ or wait till 9 5900X is available and pay 550€?? (System will be mainly used for video editing purposes with Davinci resolve, premiere pro...)
Thanks.

If you need the system now, go for the 3900X. Ideally you would wait for reviews of the 5900X and pick that up assuming reviews are good, but you might have a tough time getting one right out of the gate. If you're okay with paying a bit more, want the absolute best (aside from say a 5950X), and can afford to wait potentially a few months to get one, then go for the 5900X

 

[thesmokingman]

If you need the system now, go for the 3900X. Ideally you would wait for reviews of the 5900X and pick that up assuming reviews are good, but you might have a tough time getting one right out of the gate. If you're okay with paying a bit more, want the absolute best (aside from say a 5950X), and can afford to wait potentially a few months to get one, then go for the 5900X

If getting now I'd be getting the 3900xt since there's only a 30 buck difference at Microcenter for ex. that way you get the highest binned silicon.

 

[Zach_01]

Hey, got one question:
Should I buy a ryzen 9 3900X for 415€ or wait till 9 5900X is available and pay 550€?? (System will be mainly used for video editing purposes with Davinci resolve, premiere pro...)
Thanks.

Please wait for reviews 2~3weeks more if possible.
The 5800X could be faster than 3900X/XT, let alone the 5900X. And I'm talking about allcore workloads. Because in games even the 5600X will be faster than any 3000.

And the 3900XT literally has +1~2% more performance than the 3900X.

 

[EarthDog]

Please wait for reviews 2~3weeks more if possible.
The 5800X could be faster than 3900X/XT, let alone the 5900X. And I'm talking about allcore workloads. Because in games even the 5600X will be faster than any 3000.

And the 3900XT literally has +1~2% more performance than the 3900X.

I don't imagine a 12c/24t processor losing to a 8c/16t processor in MT loads. It's going to take more than a couple hundred MHz and 15% IPC uplift to surpass a 50% core deficit.

 

[4kk]

(Thanks for all your answers, really appreciated ) Yep, I have thought about waiting. But paying 150 bucks more for a marginal performance uplift in productivity...(In fact, if I remember well, the difference was mainly in gaming. When AMD showed performance in productivity, it wasn´t a major improvement, especially in premiere pro. I´m a bit hesitant, though (If anyone is interested, I´m coming from an i9-9900K)

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

It's more like people are actually starting to pay a bit of attention. I still remember people back in the Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake days clamoring over the extra 10% or so of performance they could get each generation, arguing for it being worth the upgrade (usually including a new mothetboard) despite that being very demonstrably untrue. Guess it took about five years of fatigue for that truth to actually sink in with people. And ironically that seems to have happened right at the point when CPU performance actually becomes interesting again

Isn't 10% kind of pushing it, I remember is somewhere about 7% on average.
I wonder if this average amd gave us is with out memory tuning there could be up 8% more with memory tuning.
I just seen the redgamingtech video of leak 5,000 series slide. There is now a infinity link between the two CCD's which should improve intercore communication since they no longer have to go to the IO die Like the 3,000 seires does. Then back out to talk to the other CCD. it also reduces latency.

 

[John Naylor]

Yeah we always make purchasing decisions out of blind brand loyalty with absolutely no reliable information available .... NOT !

We will make a decision only after we see the TPU reviewss...

..... if Its faster in gaming, than Intel's offering in the user's price niche, we will buy it for gaming builds ... until now, we been using Intel because Intel scored better.
..... if Its faster in Premier and Photoshop, than Intel's offering in the user's price niche, we will buy it for editing builds ... until now, we been using Intel because Intel scores better.
..... if Its faster in Rendering, than Intel's offering in the user's price niche, we will buy it for rendering builds ... until now, we been using AMD because AMD scores better.
..... If the new CPUs are faster in x number of things which the user will not install on their PC, we will not make decisions because Intel or AMD is faster in applications that the user will not install.

 

[Aeeu]

I have to ask the obvious question: how is an IPC increase of 19% not significant, especially when combined with higher clocks?

Correction, it's 3% over Zen 2.

 

[INSTG8R]

There really hasn't been a reason to do that since Sandy Bridge. I don't see the lack of eager day 1 upgrades as surprising though: given how lacklustre CPUs have been for half a decade, a lot of people have held off for a long time. Many of those went for a Zen 2 upgrade, which would make upgrading again rather silly, while those who didn't have little incentive to rush - if you've held off on upgrading for several years already, another 6 months won't make a difference

Yep i was still on a 4790K/Z97 un this past July when I made the switch to Zen 2 with every intent of going Zen 3 as a final destination. When I actually do it is undetermined and I’m in no rush to see when the entire product stack is released before choosing one.

 

[Valantar]

Correction, it's 3% over Zen 2.

Got a source for that? 'Cause the only numbers we have for now - which are of course AMD' s own and need verification by an independent third party - say 19%. (AMD's test notes say the ipc comparison was done with a 5800X vs 3800XT set to the same clock speed.)

 

[thesmokingman]

Got a source for that? 'Cause the only numbers we have for now - which are of course AMD' s own and need verification by an independent third party - say 19%. (AMD's test notes say the ipc comparison was done with a 5800X vs 3800XT set to the same clock speed.)

Dude, look at said users post history...

 

[Valantar]

Dude, look at said users post history...

What post history?