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If you pull out all the stops (Kryonaut/H2/SYY/KPX paste, good CO curve to bring down ST temps, well balanced power limits, good Ryzen-optimized block), wouldn't be surprised if it both runs appreciably cooler and performs better. Even a single thick 280mm (or was it 240mm?) gets impressively close to handling a 5950X and 3090. So if you have less GPU, or two rads, I'd expect v good results.

When these Zen 3 cores push above 15W per-core in ST they do some crazy temperature shit, like transient 10-15C spikes. Games like BFV and MW19 are pretty challenging for even D15 for that reason, not MT or pure wattage. Be curious to see what watercooling can do for that.
I have one of these. I used to cool my 4.8ghz 2500k and 7970 at 1350mhz with that thing and it kept it all under 50c. A radiator this thick needs a lot of static pressure. I was running 38mm panaflo's with a 25mm spacer between the fan and the rad on both sides. I have no doubts that it could cool the 5950x by itself. I have the old swiftech pump/block that I doubt is ryzen optimized.



When I was using that rad, I was inside a case that fit it nicely. My computer is now in an open bench case and the 240mm radiator doesn't fit nicely in that space. A 480mm radiator is the perfect size to mount to my desk. With a few well placed quick disconnects and it would be a nice set up. I am also thinking about making it so I could mount the radiator to my window allowing all hot air to blow outside in the summer. I am even thinking about running a 5 gallon res in my crawl space. In short, I have plans that go beyond lowering my temperatures.
 

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No we want a all out brand flame war:roll:

Just like the Intel vs. AMD and AMD vs. Nvidia fanboys have. Just with coolers:p
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Thermalright is good as well. Had a Thermalright Ultra 120 extreme back when i still had a I7 920 cpu. That dit great as well.
 
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Some fun with 5600G PBO and Curve Optimizer.

MT runs at about 4.35GHz, ST runs at 4.65GHz because it's limited by +200MHz boost override. Just goes to show how AMD segments these chips.

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Some fun with 5600G PBO and Curve Optimizer.

MT runs at about 4.35GHz, ST runs at 4.65GHz because it's limited by +200MHz boost override. Just goes to show how AMD segments these chips.

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About par with my stock X chip, nice going and with a iGPU to boot!
 
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5950x, XMP memory settings, PBO limts: Motherboard, Core Optimizer -10 on all cores.
Single threaded ran at ~4.9ghz and Multithreaded ran at about 4.3ghz


Core optimizer -10 gave me back the SC performance I had lost and then some. 15% faster multi threaded with just a few simple tweaks is really nice. Intel doesn't even get 15% performance between entire CPU generations. :)

All I need now is to fine tune core optimizer. Does anyone have any good tips on how to do that efficiently?


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It seems I may have been running closer to 5ghz in single threaded. I was watching the temperatures and clock speed closely. It would raise clock speed until the CPU got over 63c at which point the cpu speed would drop a little. I can and will be able to fine tune further with core optimizer but I am also limited by temperature. This only makes me want to begin watercooling again sooner.
 
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Shouldn't matter. You could run at 2133 JEDEC if you wanted and the difference on Ryzen in Cinebench should be like 10pts. Memory makes zero difference in Cinebench for Ryzen. It's only the ST score that looks out of place, which is why I asked if you're running stuff in the background. The ST test is so long that anything that runs during it will have an effect, even HWInfo.
well mind you I am only running 16gbs, it's Corsair Vengeance pro RGB 3200mhz it's timings right now are 16-18-18-18-36-76 (T1)
it may not be dual rank ram.
 
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Since the multiplier increment is 0.1 on Zen 3, every degree does matter, as mentioned, even more than on Zen 2. For water-cooling, Conductonaut really makes a lot of sense on the 5950X and 5900x, primarily to maximize 1, 2 and 3 threaded workloads.

Past 3, the heat is actually a lot easier to handle because of the reduced voltage applied to reach multicore workload speeds, 5 core loads being easiest to cool.

I've scaled from 39f to 80f water temps testing this on my 5950x, the hardest thing to cool is a 3 thread non-avx workload that isn't hitting TDC/EDC/PPT limits, because it's going to jump straight to max boost bin and coinciding voltage. AVX triggers reduced speed, even when not hitting limits. Similarly, high EDC all core loads that don't hit PPT/TDC ( like ram stability testing) are hard to cool, it sends my 5950x straight 4930 effective clock all core loads at 1.4 volts because the amerage drawn is so low.

If you have a good block, flow, and cooling capacity the all core loads are trivial on the 5950x.

If you can keep the 5950x under 58c in the 3 thread scenario, temperature scaling from 1-3 stops, and effective clocks will bang right up against the allowed boost limit when not using PBO. Many thread obviously keeps scaling down to subzero temperatures as voltage for a given speed can drop.

Adjusting EDC can influence how aggressive PB2 applies boost, the lower the EDC set, the more aggressively PB2 pushes 1-3 thread workloads. This requires adjustment of CO based on EDC. The higher EDC is set the more CO voltage reduction can be used, and the more single core extends the temperature scaling downwards.

The more you raise EDC, the more CO offset can be used and the lower temp scaling goes, meaning cooler criticality increases. That said, there's NO gain over 160 EDC if all other variables are controlled correctly.

PBO CO 160 EDC 150 TDC 250 PPT, +50mhz nets me at 45f water temp:
R23 - nT 32550
R23 - sT 1692

Example:
140 EDC 150 TDC 200 PPT, +50 mhz
CO on core 0 at -23
R23 sT - 1671 (5048 effective clock)
Doesn't go any higher once 59f water temps are reached, it is so aggressive it achieves it's limit by 59f water temp.

160 EDC 150 TDC 200 PPT, + 50 mhz
CO on core 0 at -28
R23 sT - 1692 (5093 effective clock)
Scales all the way down to 49f water, 59f water achieves the same scores at 140 EDC, but scaling continues downwards as temp drops.

Also of note, any use of LLC other than auto reduces performance, or if at setting 1 (the most gentle) causes instability(C7H). Auto, as tested by Buildzoid on the C7H, tracks best regarding SET/GET.

Low use crashes/resets were entirely solved by setting the CBS power supply to typical instead of low, using an AX1200i (known good).

Keep in mind, ambient water temps + typical delta will be around 85f. As a result, keeping EDC at 140 and raising TDC to 150-160 and PPT to 200-250 will usually net the best performance paired with as much negative CO as possible, raising the sT scaling of PB2 into the range of use. Lowering EDC to 130 may even help 1-3 thread speeds, haven't tested but the pattern suggests it will. EDC will NOT limit performance when PPT and TDC aren't being limited if CO is tuned if temperature is within what SMU considers acceptable.

PPT should be tuned to hold peak multicore loads at whatever you consider acceptable temps. Doing so will not impact gaming or light/moderate use as all. I tune mine to hold water + 45, which is 250 PPT, holding the CPU at 55c, but very few loads achieve this level of power draw, usually hitting 150 TDC first. R23 draws 225 watts and runs at 4830 mhz at 1.344v GET, hitting TDC and EDC limits, scores do linearly scale with TDC up to 4930 mhz all core at 1.4v GET if I uncap TDC.

1.344v GET I verified using all core OC as manual 4800hz minimum stable voltage, so there's literally nothing to be gained from all core OC vs WELL tuned PBO CO. Lazy PBO CO settings can be beat by all core OC.
 

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What he said :)
 

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Sweet score. I have to settle with 31238 multi score and single core score is 1654, so that´s the same. However i am on aircooling, so that pretty much limits my score. Will try for higher scores when winter sets in. 4.65 GHz all core on bofh CCD´s for now. The best CCD might have a little more to give and i can maybe get single core a bit higher as well, with more tweaking,.

My score here:
 
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I have one of these. I used to cool my 4.8ghz 2500k and 7970 at 1350mhz with that thing and it kept it all under 50c. A radiator this thick needs a lot of static pressure. I was running 38mm panaflo's with a 25mm spacer between the fan and the rad on both sides. I have no doubts that it could cool the 5950x by itself. I have the old swiftech pump/block that I doubt is ryzen optimized.



When I was using that rad, I was inside a case that fit it nicely. My computer is now in an open bench case and the 240mm radiator doesn't fit nicely in that space. A 480mm radiator is the perfect size to mount to my desk. With a few well placed quick disconnects and it would be a nice set up. I am also thinking about making it so I could mount the radiator to my window allowing all hot air to blow outside in the summer. I am even thinking about running a 5 gallon res in my crawl space. In short, I have plans that go beyond lowering my temperatures.

Did you get the 5 galon res?
Here's my temp rising through 70 minutes of Forza. without radiator nor fans.

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I think it's better you buy thin rads. A hot loaf of bread or potato, chills down faster if you just cut them into halves.
 

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I improved my single core score by 1 point. I think she's got another one in her somewhere :rockout:

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Audio Device(s) Z906
Power Supply THERMALTAKE GRAND 750
Mouse Asus Rog Chakram
Keyboard ASUS ROG CLAYMOORE
Software WINDOWS 10 20H2
Benchmark Scores CB R23 Multi 16358, single 1310. Quicker than flies on a dung pile
Stock : Asus table minus offset mode, 67 Celsius win 11 beta. 360 AIO
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