• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

PowerColor Starts Selling the DEVIL Box External Graphics Solution

btarunr

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,895 (7.38/day)
Location
Dublin, Ireland
System Specs
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard Gigabyte B550 AORUS Elite V2
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 16GB DDR4-3200
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 4070 Ti EX
Storage Samsung 990 1TB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
TUL Corporation, a leading and innovative manufacturer of AMD graphic cards since 1997, has announced DEVIL BOX is ready to sell Now. PowerColor DEVIL BOX is based on AMD XConnect Technology which was introduced on March 16th, 2016 by AMD. AMD had developed this technology in collaboration with Intel's Thunderbolt group and Razer Inc.

The PowerColor DEVIL BOX is primarily for the users who would like to have an even more powerful graphics card on his/her notebook in pursuit of desktop-class graphics performance. With a qualified graphics card, not limited to either AMD or nVidia, installed in the PowerColor DEVIL BOX and connecting with Thunderbolt 3 specification, gamers and enthusiasts will be able to play any types of games on the market without sacrificing the portability of a thin'n'light notebook.



Quantity is very limited so Devil Box can ONLY be bought on below websites. MSRP is US$379 or 419 €.



View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
I only want it if it has the star of david on it somewhere so it matches the devil 13 cards :p
 
Why is it so huge?? There are many smaller itx cases that houses full systems!

And this logo... Will sure look prefessional/classy along a XPS 15, right?
 
Air said:
Why is it so huge?? There are many smaller itx cases that houses full systems!

And this logo... Will sure look prefessional/classy along a XPS 15, right?
Click to expand...
1) a biult-in 500W PSU
2) It also has a USB 3.0 HUB
3) I guess there are optional provisions for additional SATA-III expandability.

So, even though it looks funny - it is a little more than your typical external GPU enclosure.

Plus, it is not marketed for XPS or Alienware series, because both already feature a "proprietary" interface (basically an external PCI-e x4 connector) and have an equally overpriced shitty enclosure.
It is marketed as a perfect expansion for Intel Skull Canyon NUC.
Just imagine the conversation with your nerd friends:
- Heard you bought a new gaming rig?..
- Yep. It's a Skull Canyon with a Devil Box. Kicks ass... though it's loud as a f$%ng commercial jet plane.
 
It has to fit a 500w AC->DC power supply as well as a full length ATX spec card with up to dual slots. Then it needs whatever circuitry Thunderbolt needs to bridge the gap between PCI Express and its own protocol.

What I don't get is that it says Ethernet and SATA III HDD upgrade. I think it goes far beyond just a graphics card. I get the distinct impression it's like a desktop companion for notebooks.
 
silentbogo said:
1) a biult-in 500W PSU
2) It also has a USB 3.0 HUB
3) I guess there are optional provisions for additional SATA-III expandability.

Systems like SG13, Ncase M1, A4 and Im guessing many others, can house all that plus internal HDs, MB and CPU.

So, even though it looks funny - it is a little more than your typical external GPU enclosure.

Plus, it is not marketed for XPS or Alienware series, because both already feature a "proprietary" interface (basically an external PCI-e x4 connector) and have an equally overpriced shitty enclosure.
It is marketed as a perfect expansion for Intel Skull Canyon NUC.
Just imagine the conversation with your nerd friends:
- Heard you bought a new gaming rig?..
- Yep. It's a Skull Canyon with a Devil Box. Kicks ass... though it's loud as a f$%ng commercial jet plane.
Click to expand...

Well, there are smaller itx cases that house all that plus MB, CPU, SDD and some of them even some water cooling, so that hardly justifies the size. Just check the A4-SFX case.... full system with full length GPU in half the volume.

I used the XPS 15 as an example because it was heavily used to test compatibility of the Razer Core to other TB3 notebooks (with great sucess as I undestand), so it should work with this. Only the Alienware laptops have the proprietary conector.

I don think pairing these things with NUCs is a good idea, as you would and up with a bigger, less powerful, more complex, more noisy, less upgradeable and more expensive system instead of just building an ITX system.
 
This thing is way, way, way too big. Not to mention the styling sucks (that is subjective, but I am willing to bet a bit of money on the fact most eGPU users will find it gaudy). That said, it is a lot cheaper than the Razer Core, so that is good. Now we just need Akitio to release the Akitio Node and start an eGPU price war.
 
500W PSU. That's monstrous.

FordGT90Concept said:
What I don't get is that it says Ethernet and SATA III HDD upgrade. I think it goes far beyond just a graphics card. I get the distinct impression it's like a desktop companion for notebooks.
Click to expand...

Aye this. Which makes it ... kinda useful, actually. An actual laptop while away (instead of those luggable gaming monsters), a proper desktop at home. The problem, as I see it, is that the good CPU's (non u) don't generally come in the smaller laptops. Also, with Pascal, mobile GPU's are quite fast to begin with, and there is no such thing as a cheap TB3 computer.
 
So is this "500w" for the PSU or an actual like 500w gold or better unit made by someone reputable?
 
The demand is there. Implementation and pricing is what I'm worried about.

I have a client, who runs a small engineering firm.
He opted in for a fleet of Lenovo X2xx and T4xx series laptops with PCI-e extension kits and external GPU enclosures from China.
The end result is not pretty, with all the cabling sticking out of the laptop, but a built-in 150W PSU makes it good enough to run a GTX660 or something similar for rendering tasks or GPU-assisted CAD workloads, when needed.

Air said:
Well, there are smaller itx cases that house all that plus MB, CPU, SDD and some of them even some water cooling, so that hardly justifies the size.
Click to expand...
Well, that really is a problem, but this is the price some people are willing to pay, when they want to have something capable of handling anything, including an overclocked GTX Titan XP, or a hypothetical RX490x2 (both in terms of power, size and cooling).

What worries me more than its size, is the price. Your point about ITX rig being cheaper and more beneficial at this size is exactly what I'm concerned about. $379 will buy you an entry-level Skylake rig in the same form factor.
If you take into account the fact that laptops and mini-PCs with Thunderbolt 3 ain't cheap either - you have even larger disadvantage over traditional Desktop+Laptop combination.
 
silentbogo said:
The end result is not pretty, with all the cabling sticking out of the laptop, but a built-in 150W PSU makes it good enough to run a GTX660 or something similar for rendering tasks or GPU-assisted CAD workloads, when needed.
Click to expand...

You can run a 1060 on that?
 
silentbogo said:
Well, that really is a problem, but this is the price some people are willing to pay, when they want to have something capable of handling anything, including an overclocked GTX Titan XP, or a hypothetical RX490x2 (both in terms of power, size and cooling).

What worries me more than its size, is the price. Your point about ITX rig being cheaper and more beneficial at this size is exactly what I'm concerned about. $379 will buy you an entry-level Skylake rig in the same form factor.
If you take into account the fact that laptops and mini-PCs with Thunderbolt 3 ain't cheap either - you have even larger disadvantage over traditional Desktop+Laptop combination.
Click to expand...

Well i think this only makes sense as a laptop docking station. In 1 or 2 years laptops sold in 2015 with a 960m or 970m will be very outdated on the GPU side, but all the rest will be perfectly fine, including the CPU (as long as it is an intel quad core). So, instead of spending 2k on a new laptop, just spend the money on a eGPU dock and desktop GPU.

About your comment on high end GPUs, I dont think that the Titan would be a problem, since now days SFX PSUs ara available up to 600 W, or 700 W for SFX-L.
 
cdawall said:
You can run a 1060 on that?
Click to expand...
Yep. I've even seen some prettier chinese devices with a built-in 220W PSU.
They use HDMI as an electric interface for PCIe x1 (older models used USB 3.0 connectors). Easy to install in almost any laptop, but requires drilling and lots of hot glue.
Never tried that myself, but I guess it works for some people. Price-wise there are models with a dock, but no enclosure or PSU, going as low as $40.
Kinda like a fancy riser card.
 
silentbogo said:
Yep. I've even seen some prettier chinese devices with a built-in 220W PSU.
They use HDMI as an electric interface for PCIe x1 (older models used USB 3.0 connectors). Easy to install in almost any laptop, but requires drilling and lots of hot glue.
Never tried that myself, but I guess it works for some people. Price-wise there are models with a dock, but no enclosure or PSU, going as low as $40.
Kinda like a fancy riser card.
Click to expand...

As long as the laptop has an Expresscard slot (Lenovo X220s, X230s have them, as to most of the T420/T430/T440/T450 line) there is no need to drill or hot glue anything. Mini-PCIe or M.2 is where eGPUs get messy. Thunderbolt is where they become "clean" again :)
 
Yukikaze said:
As long as the laptop has an Expresscard slot (Lenovo X220s, X230s have them, as to most of the T420/T430/T440/T450 line) there is no need to drill or hot glue anything. Mini-PCIe or M.2 is where eGPUs get messy. Thunderbolt is where they become "clean" again :)
Click to expand...
But a laptop with Thunderbolt3 is very expensive...

I think that's the one the guy was using, except his device had a female HDMI breakout board:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/EXP..._7&btsid=08688f56-f3a9-4c1f-8c9e-ac42c137df1e
 
silentbogo said:
But a laptop with Thunderbolt3 is very expensive...

I think that's the one the guy was using, except his device had a female HDMI breakout board:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/EXP..._7&btsid=08688f56-f3a9-4c1f-8c9e-ac42c137df1e
Click to expand...

Yeah, the GDC Beast is one of the most common low-cost eGPU adapters. The other one is the BPlus P4EC.

You don't need Thunderbolt3, though. My main point was that Expresscard is a neat solution as well, but obviously much more bandwidth constrained than Thunderbolt. Still works for render work and so on.

That said, Thunderbolt 1 and 2 also work, and are significantly cheaper than TB3 laptops. The T430s comes to mind.
 
I hope the price can come down to $150-$200 mark, then I am getting rid of my PC entirely. For a little over $400 I can comfortably build a decent PC without a graphics card.
 
silentbogo said:
1) a biult-in 500W PSU
2) It also has a USB 3.0 HUB
3) I guess there are optional provisions for additional SATA-III expandability.

So, even though it looks funny - it is a little more than your typical external GPU enclosure.

Plus, it is not marketed for XPS or Alienware series, because both already feature a "proprietary" interface (basically an external PCI-e x4 connector) and have an equally overpriced shitty enclosure.
It is marketed as a perfect expansion for Intel Skull Canyon NUC.
Just imagine the conversation with your nerd friends:
- Heard you bought a new gaming rig?..
- Yep. It's a Skull Canyon with a Devil Box. Kicks ass... though it's loud as a f$%ng commercial jet plane.
Click to expand...
The XPS doesn't have the amplifier port, only the Alienware does. And Dell's solution is way better priced than any of these thunderbolt enclosures. MSRP is $200 but you can regularly see it for $160 or less. Plus, their proprietary port achieves better performance than thunderbolt enclosures because of less overhead. As much as I'm not a fan of Dell or Alienware, their external enclosure is better priced with better performance than any of these thunderbolt 3 ones.
 
jumpman said:
The XPS doesn't have the amplifier port, only the Alienware does. And Dell's solution is way better priced than any of these thunderbolt enclosures. MSRP is $200 but you can regularly see it for $160 or less. Plus, their proprietary port achieves better performance than thunderbolt enclosures because of less overhead. As much as I'm not a fan of Dell or Alienware, their external enclosure is better priced with better performance than any of these thunderbolt 3 ones.
Click to expand...
It was initially $300, and its working principles and internal structure are exactly the same as chinese eGPU boxes. The only difference is that it includes a PSU, an ugly case and a fancy PCIe cable.
At $199 it is actually not too bad, plus a used device like that can be adapted to work with other laptops via few hacks (at least in PCIe x1 mode).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top